along the "brand snobbery" line....
Discussion
GravelBen said:
Papa Hotel said:
there are thousands of alternatives to the 2 rally reps that are as much fun to drive, better equipped, more comfortable, cheaper to buy, insure and fuel and better screwed together.
Like what?must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable
I'm all ears
Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 3rd February 10:26
Rawwr said:
y2blade said:
must be AWD
must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable
R32? I mean, they're as dull as blankets and driving one feels akin to gently sliding into a coma but it fits the criteria.must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable
The criteria included 'as much fun to drive' as a rally-rep. And cheaper to buy as well as better screwed together, which given the mixed reports you hear about VW these days days probably isn't a given.
GravelBen said:
Rawwr said:
y2blade said:
must be AWD
must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable
R32? I mean, they're as dull as blankets and driving one feels akin to gently sliding into a coma but it fits the criteria.must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable
The criteria included 'as much fun to drive' as a rally-rep. And cheaper to buy as well as better screwed together, which given the mixed reports you hear about VW these days days probably isn't a given.
I can have fun in pretty much anything
S60R is what I'm looking for right now, I love my turbo Volvos
What I've heard about the S60R is that its fast enough and competent enough, but certainly not a car described in any way as 'involving'.
Personally if you want something with rally-rep performance and handling, but more comfort and a more grown-up/subtle feel then I'd suggest taking a good look at a Legacy - either the 280bhp GTB (would be an import for you) or the 240bhp 3.0R Spec B.
Personally if you want something with rally-rep performance and handling, but more comfort and a more grown-up/subtle feel then I'd suggest taking a good look at a Legacy - either the 280bhp GTB (would be an import for you) or the 240bhp 3.0R Spec B.
GravelBen said:
What I've heard about the S60R is that its fast enough and competent enough, but certainly not a car described in any way as 'involving'.
Personally if you want something with rally-rep performance and handling, but more comfort and a more grown-up/subtle feel then I'd suggest taking a good look at a Legacy - either the 280bhp GTB (would be an import for you) or the 240bhp 3.0R Spec B.
thanks for the suggestion (a guy along from me has a new'ish diesel legacy, very nice inside, very comfy)Personally if you want something with rally-rep performance and handling, but more comfort and a more grown-up/subtle feel then I'd suggest taking a good look at a Legacy - either the 280bhp GTB (would be an import for you) or the 240bhp 3.0R Spec B.
see above..I don't care about trackday handling
I can hustle my 850 T5 along fairly well
Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 3rd February 11:01
y2blade said:
300bhp/ton said:
y2blade said:
300bhp/ton said:
motoroller said:
Most cars (completely stock) are fine. If it came with any of the following, I wouldn't buy it.
LED washer jets
Loud exhaust
Wheels that are more than 4" bigger than stock
Any form of vinyl stickers
Aftermarket bodykit / spoiler
Those are all fairly bad signs - the car will look stupid and most likely be thrashed.
Not sure I follow that. My car has a loud exhaust and a front rally like spoiler and wheels substantially bigger than stock. But I can't see how it's chavy at all. LED washer jets
Loud exhaust
Wheels that are more than 4" bigger than stock
Any form of vinyl stickers
Aftermarket bodykit / spoiler
Those are all fairly bad signs - the car will look stupid and most likely be thrashed.
It actually looks like it's been raised!
Each to there own but out of all the nice classics you could buy and modify, why would anyone pick a TR7??!!
Mark Benson said:
However 99% of the time they look like the council estate Ferrari they undoubtedly are.
The rest of your post was quite good, but this is utter rubbish!I live on a council estate and there isn't a single Impreza there at all. In fact apart from a stock MG ZS180, stock Focus ST, RRS and a Sport KA all the cars are bog standard normal.
Devil2575 said:
No, but it is a TR7...
eh? 
Yes its a TR7, the most successful Triumph Sports car out selling all the other TR models. Also a successful circuit and rally car and even made an appearance at LeMans sporting a twin turbo V8.
Devil2575 said:
It actually looks like it's been raised!
Well all this shows is you are talking rubbish!The car has been dropped an 1", ok the 225 tyres are taller than the stock 175's. But it's fairly low to the ground, much lower than a regular car such as a Focus. As in there's no way you could crawl under it without putting it on a jack.
The engine also sits even lower (has been lowered in the enginebay) and the front subframe can catch on road humps if you aren't careful.
Devil2575 said:
Each to there own but out of all the nice classics you could buy and modify, why would anyone pick a TR7??!!
Why not?And what would you suggest as a "better" alternative for the price?
Oh and to give a bit of history and FYI:
The TR7 is a very good platform. The chassis is strong and well designed. Better than many contempoaries of the time. As it was designed to meet crash regulations which were never introduced.
It's got a spacious cabin yet still retains a good sports car feel and driving positoin. Huge boot. Much more usable than an MBG and a nicer place to sit.
Still small and fairly light.
Massive engine bay designed from the off to take the Rover V8.
Good suspension setup.
Good choice of strong 5 speed gearboxes.
So why not?
I had an MGB before the TR and the TR is better in ever respect. I also personally like the way they look and judging by their current global following and record sports car sales for Triumph, many others must agree also.
Lots of tuning parts to make the car quick, fun and capable.
And price. At the time I'm sure I'd have loved a TVR like a Cerbera or even a Griff. But they cost 10x ore than I could afford. The TR7 cost me a lot less when I bought it in 2001.
It now runs (and has since mid 2001) a modded Rover V8 and will just about keep pace with a DC5 ITR and upset an RX-8.
300bhp/ton said:
Mark Benson said:
However 99% of the time they look like the council estate Ferrari they undoubtedly are.
The rest of your post was quite good, but this is utter rubbish!I live on a council estate and there isn't a single Impreza there at all. In fact apart from a stock MG ZS180, stock Focus ST, RRS and a Sport KA all the cars are bog standard normal.
..i wonder if they have their curtains closed all the time and an unusually high electricity bill?
briSk said:
300bhp/ton said:
Mark Benson said:
However 99% of the time they look like the council estate Ferrari they undoubtedly are.
The rest of your post was quite good, but this is utter rubbish!I live on a council estate and there isn't a single Impreza there at all. In fact apart from a stock MG ZS180, stock Focus ST, RRS and a Sport KA all the cars are bog standard normal.
..i wonder if they have their curtains closed all the time and an unusually high electricity bill?
300bhp/ton said:
Mark Benson said:
However 99% of the time they look like the council estate Ferrari they undoubtedly are.
The rest of your post was quite good, but this is utter rubbish!I live on a council estate and there isn't a single Impreza there at all. In fact apart from a stock MG ZS180, stock Focus ST, RRS and a Sport KA all the cars are bog standard normal.
EDIT: Arrrghhh beaten to making a RRS/drug dealer connection - damn and blast!
Edited by Taffer on Wednesday 3rd February 12:31
briSk said:
...sure but a RRS so aren;t we talking a £30 car outside a £200something grand house..?
mind you we've had that thread and everyone fell out haven't we?
Maybe, it's an 06 plate and I don't know the spec. So no idea what it cost. He had an almost new X-Type before and a Disco 3 before that. Their house is paid for and he erns good money. So why not?mind you we've had that thread and everyone fell out haven't we?
This is my street, as you can see it's chav central :rolleye: with Barry'd up cars in every drive way
lol
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