Whats the most basic car you can buy today?
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thinfourth2 said:
If you are determined to buy a car that will last forever then buy a old 300tdi defender for a few grand
Then get it rebuilt with a brand new galvanised chassis and a rebuilt engine and gearbox and all new fasteners.
All in about £10kish and it is simple and will last for ever
.Then get it rebuilt with a brand new galvanised chassis and a rebuilt engine and gearbox and all new fasteners.
All in about £10kish and it is simple and will last for ever
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Are you really serious,,,,,,,,, A Land Rover product,,,,,,,,
Ha, ha, ha, ha
It will be a cold day in hell.
hora said:
I know but thats a refurb and Landrovers last forever due to people replacing parts (expense) as they go along?
if you are happy to get your hands dirty they are easy to work on and parts cost washersI got 4 new wheel bearing sets for less then the cost of 1 bearing for the other halfs ashtray
And the landy ones were easier to fit
Or a second thought if you want a brand new simple car that is PH a caterham 7 with a 1.4L K-series. The 1.4K is pretty bullet proof and rarely suffers head gasket problems especially in a 7 and the only ECU is the one for the fuel injection.
I know this as i love my simple cars
uk_vette said:
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Are you really serious,,,,,,,,, A Land Rover product,,,,,,,,
Ha, ha, ha, ha
It will be a cold day in hell.
My 12 year old defender has let me down in the 5 years i have owned it roughly never. It may of on a few occasions come home as a 2WD with a propshaft in the boot but it still got home.Are you really serious,,,,,,,,, A Land Rover product,,,,,,,,
Ha, ha, ha, ha
It will be a cold day in hell.
thinfourth2 said:
uk_vette said:
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Are you really serious,,,,,,,,, A Land Rover product,,,,,,,,
Ha, ha, ha, ha
It will be a cold day in hell.
My 12 year old defender has let me down in the 5 years i have owned it roughly never. It may of on a few occasions come home as a 2WD with a propshaft in the boot but it still got home.Are you really serious,,,,,,,,, A Land Rover product,,,,,,,,
Ha, ha, ha, ha
It will be a cold day in hell.
XitUp said:
lol, I love that LR fans don't count a busted prop shaft as letting you down.
Was i stuck at the side of the road while a little ECU through a hissy fit and had to wait a week to book it into a dealer to talk to a big computer and be relieved of many pounds for the privilege?Nope
hora said:
I'm talking everyday car, no fancy ECU's (so as paired-down as possible), lack of electronic wizardry, simple proven mechanics etc?
So a car thats maybe been in production for quite a while, niggles worked out etc etc.
WHY? I'm thinking of buying a car new, twice-annual oil changes and running it into the ground.
I am by no means an expert, but low spec cars without electrickery are sold, just not here. They don't meet the regs. So a car thats maybe been in production for quite a while, niggles worked out etc etc.
WHY? I'm thinking of buying a car new, twice-annual oil changes and running it into the ground.
Edited by hora on Sunday 16th May 08:13
Most cars now are very reliable, you just service them and put fuel in them between services. So I would not be afraid to do this with any car. My car is 12 years old and the problems I have had in 8 years of ownership are a blower resistor and a wiper motor, so put that in you Land Rover pipes and smoke it.
I'd not be worried about ECU's, the seem miles better than carbs. Yes, the electrical problems can be infuriating when they are intermittent, but they generally just work. We have a Merc Sprinter at work, 2000 on an X plate and this week will turn 370K. It has had a reconditioned engine, but al the control systems are original. It was the head that failed.
You need a smallish engine for cheapness too. A Landy is a great idea, but how cheap to run really? How often do you want to get your hands dirty?
New or used?
Used, I'd go for a Skoda Octavia 1.6 LX of 1998 vintage. Nothing clever about them at all, proven VW 1588cc engine, Golf chassis, loads of boot space and four door. Find one like my dad's 48k mileage and you are laughing.
New? Kia with their 7 year warranty perhaps?
New or used?
Used, I'd go for a Skoda Octavia 1.6 LX of 1998 vintage. Nothing clever about them at all, proven VW 1588cc engine, Golf chassis, loads of boot space and four door. Find one like my dad's 48k mileage and you are laughing.
New? Kia with their 7 year warranty perhaps?
A defender will no way be reliable, even a rebuilt one will go wrong, take the rose tinted specticals off.
The six land rovers we have owned from new have not been reliable and have all had problems.
A lot of my friends have defenders ranging from old 200tdis right up to brand new td5s, their general rule of thumb is if some thing goes wrong you are looking at £500 minimum to repair it.
Yes I love landys they are great fun, but they are not reliable and parts are expensive so it will be nothing like what the OP specified.
"If you want to go to the outback in style, take a Land Rover...If you want to come back alive you'll need a Land Cruiser!"
The six land rovers we have owned from new have not been reliable and have all had problems.
A lot of my friends have defenders ranging from old 200tdis right up to brand new td5s, their general rule of thumb is if some thing goes wrong you are looking at £500 minimum to repair it.
Yes I love landys they are great fun, but they are not reliable and parts are expensive so it will be nothing like what the OP specified.
"If you want to go to the outback in style, take a Land Rover...If you want to come back alive you'll need a Land Cruiser!"
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 16th May 10:08
hora said:
Tyre Smoke said:
New? Kia with their 7 year warranty perhaps?
It has to be vaguely interesting. The Kia will probably drive as good as a Fox but its just too bland an experience overall?Fox's are sub4k for a 3yr old example. That must be slipping underneath the VWfashionista's radar then..
I suspect any simple car if cared for will last the distance, with regular oil, dry storage, wax underseal. I'd even go as far as replacing all exposed bolts with galvanized parts from new. Plus a full stainless steel exhaust system. That way nothing will corrode.
Just pick something like a KA for example. The mechanics are the really, really old fiesta under the curvy panels. So parts are dead cheap. It was actually designed to be sold for £5k originally, until the marketing people got involved.
Forget heavy vehicles as the fuel and tax discs will push these off the road and turn them into scrap long before they wear out!
Just pick something like a KA for example. The mechanics are the really, really old fiesta under the curvy panels. So parts are dead cheap. It was actually designed to be sold for £5k originally, until the marketing people got involved.
Forget heavy vehicles as the fuel and tax discs will push these off the road and turn them into scrap long before they wear out!
k-ink said:
I suspect any simple car if cared for will last the distance, with regular oil, dry storage, wax underseal. I'd even go as far as replacing all exposed bolts with galvanized parts from new. Plus a full stainless steel exhaust system. That way nothing will corrode.
Just pick something like a KA for example. The mechanics are the really, really old fiesta under the curvy panels. So parts are dead cheap. It was actually designed to be sold for £5k originally, until the marketing people got involved.
Forget heavy vehicles as the fuel and tax discs will push these off the road and turn them into scrap long before they wear out!
My girlfriend has one. Was only five and a half for the one with air con etc. Ace fun to chuck about too.Just pick something like a KA for example. The mechanics are the really, really old fiesta under the curvy panels. So parts are dead cheap. It was actually designed to be sold for £5k originally, until the marketing people got involved.
Forget heavy vehicles as the fuel and tax discs will push these off the road and turn them into scrap long before they wear out!
champ54321 said:
general rule of thumb is if some thing goes wrong you are looking at £500 minimum to repair it.
Utter tosh.Parts prıces are reasonable. Yes, you may need more of them than for a japanese 4x4 but no way wıll every job cost over 500 quıd.
I've had 3 defenders and 3 serıes landıes and not one has ever needed a repaır over £500.
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