V W Golf ABS

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Fearless

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33 posts

173 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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My sons 07 golf has a problem with the abs the local garage told him to talk to the main dealer as it seems to be a common fault the main dealer has offered to fix the problem at half the cost I am a little suspicious and wonder why they make such an offer has anyone heard of a possible recall to deal with a break problem

bazking69

8,620 posts

145 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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A golf specific from would be your best bet I reckon.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

201 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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It is not at all unusual for decent manufacturers to offer to pay part of the cost where a car is out of warranty but suffers a known problem.

The main dealer will soon tell you if there's a recall on the car. ABS failing and throwing a warning light would not necessarily give rise to a recall. ABS failing and NOT throwing a warning light would almost certainly generate a recall.

tonker

56,763 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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go on honestjohn. It's well documented there. If the car has service history and the brake fluid change, they'll do it under goodwill even if it's not under warranty. Otherwise, a firm in W Yorks will do it for about £250.

DaveL86

847 posts

132 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Fearless said:
I am a little suspicious and wonder why they make such an offer has anyone heard of a possible recall to deal with a break problem
I've heard about this and know Audi do this as my old boss had a gearbox failure just out of warranty and since its a known issue Audi offered to pay half, not sure if its a V.A.G thing but pretty good really otherwise you'd end up paying for it all.

Rich_W

12,304 posts

167 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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tonker said:
go on honestjohn. It's well documented there. If the car has service history and the brake fluid change, they'll do it under goodwill even if it's not under warranty. Otherwise, a firm in W Yorks will do it for about £250.
I presume said firm doesn't change the £900ish ABS pump like VW do.

tonker

56,763 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Rich_W said:
I presume said firm doesn't change the £900ish ABS pump like VW do.
Is there any main dealer that employs a mechanic or an engineer rather than just fitters these days ?

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t...

Choppers

396 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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the abs light on those golfs are a very common problem but it wasn't a recall issue. It will either be the sensor or control unit / pump. Before paying out too much money to anyone I would plug it in to vag.com to see if it can tell you which sensor is registering as faulty. The sensors are dirt cheap from german & swedish & are easy to swap so it might even be worth changing them anyway. You then need to get the fault codes cleared from the ecu. If it then turns out to be the control until / pump you will be looking at around the 1k mark. Hope this helps

jj48

17 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Later VW's have a fused link located near or on top of the battery. They can crack causing the ABS to stop working and also cause ABS mil light to illuminate. They are usually 40 or 50 amp.

Richard

Rich_W

12,304 posts

167 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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tonker said:
Rich_W said:
I presume said firm doesn't change the £900ish ABS pump like VW do.
Is there any main dealer that employs a mechanic or an engineer rather than just fitters these days ?

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t...
Mechanics work in Kwik Fit
Engineers work for Manufacturers of stuff. They also have letters after their name
Main dealers OUGHT to employ Techicians. Though some are not worthy of any of the terms above. And are "guessers" I like to think I fall into the Technician bracket.

FWIW personally, I must have done something like 20-25 ABS pumps in the last 18 months. We fit the uprated modified unit. Most case VW chip in with goodwill. Not saying BBA Reman can't supply an equally reparied item. But will they fit it for you and bleed it and reset all the basic settings? And of course no main dealer (of any franchise) will happily fit non-gen parts without writing all over the invoice. Customer supplied parts, no warranty.

va1o

15,934 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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£1500 ABS Control unit, usually indicated by ESP light on dash, hugely common problem, have lost count of the times I've posted this message....

The Riddler

6,565 posts

152 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Latest from VW:

VW said:
We have increased the level of goodwill support for ABS repairs on certain Golf, Golf Plus, Eos, Jetta and Touran models. These changes are effective from 12 October 2010.



We are providing 100 per cent parts and labour support for cars that are between 37 and 48 months old, and 100 per cent parts and 50 per cent labour for cars that are between 49 and 60 months old. We have also introduced support for cars that have partial Volkswagen franchise service histories. Check the tables below for details.



All goodwill support is subject to the normal qualifying criteria.



We have recently had a few instances of 2008 model year cars with ABS issues, so we have also added this model year to the table.



We are unable to provide any retrospective enhanced support. However, any qualifying cars currently in your workshop can benefit from the increased support.



Make sure all relevant staff in your business are aware of the changes to ABS support.







Goodwill support for issues with ABS units








Service history requirements
Application of goodwill

Full Volkswagen franchised service history
100% of support shown in table below

Full service history with genuine parts
100% of support shown in table below

Partial Volkswagen franchised service history
75% of support shown in table below

Current owner adopting up to date Volkswagen franchised servicing
100% of support shown in table below

Full inependent service history with aftermarket parts
No support









Model
Model year
Up to 36 months old
37 to 48 months old
49 to 60 months old

Golf 1.4-litre and Touran
2006
3 years / 60,000 miles = warranty
100% parts and 50% labour. Additional Brand support of 50% labour
50% parts and 50% labour. Additional Brand support 50% parts

Touran
2005, 2007, 2008
100% parts and labour
100% parts & 50% labour

Golf, Eos, Golf Plus, Jetta
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008







Red text in table is Factory goodwill.

  • Mileage limitation for Volkswagen UK goodwill is 100,000 miles
Formatting is a little crappy. If anyone wants more info I'll be happy to try help.

va1o

15,934 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Any chance you could PM me that in its original form? Thanks.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

152 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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PM me and I'll forward it on!

smile

va1o

15,934 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Recieved, thanks thumbup

Bit strange that they are specifically offering less for 2006 Tourans and Golf 1.4s confused

The Riddler

6,565 posts

152 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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va1o said:
Recieved, thanks thumbup

Bit strange that they are specifically offering less for 2006 Tourans and Golf 1.4s confused
I'll try seek some clarity on that tomorrow, as it does see rather odd.

No retrospective claiming is allowed (I'd be well pissed if I'd paid and then find out they were offering goodwill.)

Dingle232

1 posts

116 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Any chance you can PM/Email that to me also pls - am just about to buy a 57 plate Golf or Kia Cee'd and the ABS issue is the major thing that's worrying me about the Golf.

Cheers

kev the bear

1 posts

113 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Here is summary of my experience on this issue.

After the ABS light went on in my 2007 Touran, I got the local VW dealer/garage to do a check (where I bought the car and who have done all the services). They confirmed that the ABS unit had gone, but could be fixed by replacing the pressure sensors, for a total cost of just under £600.

Having read this post on PistonHeads, I went to back to them and was told "...yes we would have contacted VW on your behalf to get a goodwill payment, but did not want to get your hopes high....."

After I took the car in, garage called to say that VW have agreed a goodwill of 100% parts and 50% labour. I questioned why only 50% on labour and asked to speak to VW directly (0800 833920). Later that day got a call from garage, with confirmation that VW are covering full costs.

A total of 5 mins on the phone saved me £600.

BTW - make sure you get the 2yr parts warranty that should come with the replacement.

Rich_W

12,304 posts

167 months

Saturday 2nd April 2011
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kev the bear said:

BTW - make sure you get the 2yr parts warranty that should come with the replacement.
Might struggle with that. 2 year warranty only counts if the owner (past or present) paid for it.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

152 months

Saturday 2nd April 2011
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Rich_W said:
Might struggle with that. 2 year warranty only counts if the owner (past or present) paid for it.
Paid or made a contribution towards cost. wink