RE: Red Victor - A History Of A Very Fast Vauxhall

RE: Red Victor - A History Of A Very Fast Vauxhall

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B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Andy - Looking forward to seeing it on track again - So nice to see another petrolhead with a pashion for old Vauxhalls - I still have very happy memories of seeing it on track at Mallory at a sprint event (although I was both dissappointed and pleased you didn't try to set a time wink)

Can't find the pictures of the rolling burnouts so I'll have to settle for this one for now



Who said drag cars can't do cormers

Slinky

15,704 posts

249 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Have some video instead, the old car burning out at the Autosport show in 2008..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHItjUl9PA4

hotrod1

5 posts

162 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Andy is doing a megga job with his new race car,but i have from a reliable person that all is not lost the steel Red Victor 3 is still alive and will hopefully be seeing its way down the track next year.

Edited by hotrod1 on Monday 25th October 10:50

andyp74199

141 posts

191 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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great story this, makes me proud to be British. I'll be making a trip to the pod purely to see this having read the entire build thread and followed it since. I will introduce my ankle biters to drag racing at the same time too smile great job

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Oddball RS said:
Surely the real story of the car ends after the 5th picture?
Indeed.

That last picture looks like some Glass Fibre shell to drop over a funny car.

Where is the relevence for VXR to be involved in this!? Hardly like it is current or a real race car (i.e. corners and braking).

BliarOut

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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jellison said:
Oddball RS said:
Surely the real story of the car ends after the 5th picture?
Indeed.

That last picture looks like some Glass Fibre shell to drop over a funny car.

Where is the relevence for VXR to be involved in this!? Hardly like it is current or a real race car (i.e. corners and braking).
Miaoow...?

Slinky

15,704 posts

249 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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BliarOut said:
jellison said:
Oddball RS said:
Surely the real story of the car ends after the 5th picture?
Indeed.

That last picture looks like some Glass Fibre shell to drop over a funny car.

Where is the relevence for VXR to be involved in this!? Hardly like it is current or a real race car (i.e. corners and braking).
Miaoow...?
Indeed..

Have a look at the build thread and understand that this is very different to a funny car..

Why are VXR involved? Because they understand that their core customer is more likely to run their car up the drag strip at a RWYB day than they are to go on a track day or go and watch the BTCC (in which VXR used to be involved).

Is it a real race car? Well that all depends on your reference point doesn't it.. Not all races are about trying to get back to where you started as quickly as possible.. wink

hornet

6,333 posts

250 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Always enjoyed watching this car whenever I've been at Santa Pod, and it's nice to see drag racing getting some proper coverage. I note Fifth Gear did a piece on John Sleath's Audi as well, which is another favourite and equally as mental. As for why VXR are involved, you could ask that of pretty much any manufacturer, surely? Why are Renault in F1? Bears very little relation to their product range or their customer base, but they obviously feel it's worth the outlay. Ditto VXR here, I'd wager. You also have to admire the sheer lunacy of building a street legal Pro Mod smile

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Is it Street legal with what looks to me just a drop on plastic body now?

Thing with straightline racing is – if you get the desired good launch – Everytime you run the car, you get THE SAME experience. That NEVER happens with Real Racing(!) as it last much much longer, has corners and braking, i.e. it IS Actually Racing, not just dropping the clutch and hanging on for a few seconds!

Yep this is presumably cheap to chuck some cash at compared to a BTCC program, but the cost will be way down next year.

Plus this is a Vauxhall from the Early 70's (most VXR drivers would not even know what it is let alone what decade it is from or manufacturer.


Slinky

15,704 posts

249 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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It's a full chromoly chassis wih fibreglass/CF panels.

It's quite obvious that you don't understand, nor do you want to understand, trying to get 3000hp to the tarmac, so I won't engage any further on your blinkered thoughts..

BliarOut

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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jellison said:
Is it Street legal with what looks to me just a drop on plastic body now?

Thing with straightline racing is – if you get the desired good launch – Everytime you run the car, you get THE SAME experience. That NEVER happens with Real Racing(!) as it last much much longer, has corners and braking, i.e. it IS Actually Racing, not just dropping the clutch and hanging on for a few seconds!

Yep this is presumably cheap to chuck some cash at compared to a BTCC program, but the cost will be way down next year.

Plus this is a Vauxhall from the Early 70's (most VXR drivers would not even know what it is let alone what decade it is from or manufacturer.
A REAL TVR would never have an American engine... wink

R11ysf

1,936 posts

182 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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So if this car has a different chassis, body, engine, suspension, steering, axles and transmission then how does it retain its original VRM in accordance with the DVLA's requirements????

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Slinky said:
It's a full chromoly chassis wih fibreglass/CF panels.

It's quite obvious that you don't understand, nor do you want to understand, trying to get 3000hp to the tarmac, so I won't engage any further on your blinkered thoughts..
So how is this street legal then!

I like thinks to last a bit longer - like Sex and Motor Racing. I'll leave you to it, tata.

Blair - one word Oldsmobile wink

BliarOut

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Oldsmobile, try BMW wink

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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R11ysf said:
So if this car has a different chassis, body, engine, suspension, steering, axles and transmission then how does it retain its original VRM in accordance with the DVLA's requirements????

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...
I presume either because the evolution(s) that resulted in the loss of the original chassis, body, engine, suspension, steering, axles and transmission happened before the DVLA started making life much much harder?

cupra-r rob

45 posts

204 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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When can i see this at Santa Pod, cant seem to see anything on here.

Edited by cupra-r rob on Monday 25th October 15:56

hotrod1

5 posts

162 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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should it be sva and given a "q" plate if it wants to go onto the road

Edited by hotrod1 on Monday 25th October 17:07

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Yet another great thread that has been ruined with pointless bickering. What is the point?

(and yes, that is a rhetorical question as I'm cancelling my subscription to this thread)

DJC

23,563 posts

236 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Well dragging isnt usually my thing either...but you gotta admit, its pretty damn kewl smile

Top bombing chaps.

i remember

3,296 posts

186 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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redvictor said:
Toyless said:
Ph article said:
But in 2009 the engine was seriously damaged...
Andy/Wil, you should post that pic of the bottom end, Ive never seen a motor so comprehensively destroyed!
Your wish is our command..biggrin



I had heard about this

yikes actual yikes

have another yikes