RE: Driven: Gama E30 V8-S
Discussion
Dagnut said:
The real Apache said:
Dagnut said:
Pity about the brakes and the wipers etc, I know these are easily fixed, but unfortunately it gives the impression of an backyard set up rather than pro tuners. 8 grand is a lot of money.
Hang on Daggers, he did say it was the first one and admitted it was a bit of a learn as you go process. I'd imagine the production cars will be fully sorted. This is just what I'm looking for personallyThe real Apache said:
Dagnut said:
The real Apache said:
Dagnut said:
Pity about the brakes and the wipers etc, I know these are easily fixed, but unfortunately it gives the impression of an backyard set up rather than pro tuners. 8 grand is a lot of money.
Hang on Daggers, he did say it was the first one and admitted it was a bit of a learn as you go process. I'd imagine the production cars will be fully sorted. This is just what I'm looking for personallyEven the cleanest pampered E30's have electrical gremlins, OK they aren't major issues but when your parking on the street in the city with no where to work, having no wipers or the heater stuck on/off, etc is a pain in the sack
Dagnut said:
The real Apache said:
Dagnut said:
The real Apache said:
Dagnut said:
Pity about the brakes and the wipers etc, I know these are easily fixed, but unfortunately it gives the impression of an backyard set up rather than pro tuners. 8 grand is a lot of money.
Hang on Daggers, he did say it was the first one and admitted it was a bit of a learn as you go process. I'd imagine the production cars will be fully sorted. This is just what I'm looking for personallyEven the cleanest pampered E30's have electrical gremlins, OK they aren't major issues but when your parking on the street in the city with no where to work, having no wipers or the heater stuck on/off, etc is a pain in the sack
works for me.....
So what else can you get thats a BMW with a V8 for under 8K?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
Anyone read the article in this months BMW car magazine about that group of mates who have a massive barn full of BMW's (mainly E30's) one of the guys is building an E30 with a S62 V8
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
Anyone read the article in this months BMW car magazine about that group of mates who have a massive barn full of BMW's (mainly E30's) one of the guys is building an E30 with a S62 V8
Edited by Remagel2507 on Wednesday 17th November 14:35
yonex said:
8K is not that much for an engine swap of this type. As for 'investing' 8K in a TVR what do you really get for your money? Average build, an old V8, interesting handling and reliability depending on the time of day it was built!!
A fantastic car and hell of a lot of smiles for a start!Johnpidge said:
315bhp in 1000kg's = brown trousers
Would soon feel gutless! I have 470bhp with 695kg... already feels like it needs more on longer straights!
mate has a lighter one with 550bhp... goes 'ok'
As for this car. I wouldn't own one.... but I can see the appeal. I don't think the amount is that bad. The guy has got to earn a living... I like to get paid well for doing a good job... and I don't expect people that work on my cars to work for peanuts either!
Edited by Porkie on Wednesday 17th November 14:45
John Boy 616 said:
No, no, no. Why not just get a nice m3 - m5 for 8k and be done with it. take the badges off if its so important to have a street sleeper. Hell go the whole hog and spray matt paint all over it really want to surprise people at the lights. Dull in my humble opinion of course
And how do you propose getting an M3 or M5 near the 300hp/ton (or 1000kg kerb weight) that this E30 offers?
LuS1fer said:
How much!!!!!
I would hope the characteristic lift-off oversteer of what were very average cars has also been addressed or tha you're on good terms with the local shrubbery.
I'm sorry, the lift-off what-now?I would hope the characteristic lift-off oversteer of what were very average cars has also been addressed or tha you're on good terms with the local shrubbery.
I've owned and driven 4 e30s for approximately 6 years from a decaf 316i to full fat 325i and I have never ever experienced any lift-off oversteer in any of them. I suspect it wasn't for the lack of trying or excess of driving skill. Perhaps what you're referring to is easy to achieve on the track but this car has never struck me as dangerous to drive on public roads due to inherent treacherous handling characteristics (and this includes many hours on gravel roads and ice/snow quite common in cold dark winters of that insignificant country in Northern (not bloody Eastern!) Europe I lived in before coming over here to steal your jobs and eat your swans).
Can I have a cup of coffee with that slice of humble pie somebody is likely to serve me?
Shame I don't have £8000 or the skill/motivation required to build one of these myself
braddo said:
John Boy 616 said:
No, no, no. Why not just get a nice m3 - m5 for 8k and be done with it. take the badges off if its so important to have a street sleeper. Hell go the whole hog and spray matt paint all over it really want to surprise people at the lights. Dull in my humble opinion of course
And how do you propose getting an M3 or M5 near the 300hp/ton (or 1000kg kerb weight) that this E30 offers?John Boy 616 said:
braddo said:
John Boy 616 said:
No, no, no. Why not just get a nice m3 - m5 for 8k and be done with it. take the badges off if its so important to have a street sleeper. Hell go the whole hog and spray matt paint all over it really want to surprise people at the lights. Dull in my humble opinion of course
And how do you propose getting an M3 or M5 near the 300hp/ton (or 1000kg kerb weight) that this E30 offers?
£8k seems alot for an engine swap considering you can convert a Ford Focus to a 5.0 RWD V8 with 420 bhp for that sort of money £8,797.60 at todays currency rates and for that money you get the engine and drivetrain, but no brake upgrade or suspension upgrades as far as i can tell, just like the 31v8 http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/rs8/ or http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focusv8.php
The real Apache said:
John Boy 616 said:
braddo said:
John Boy 616 said:
No, no, no. Why not just get a nice m3 - m5 for 8k and be done with it. take the badges off if its so important to have a street sleeper. Hell go the whole hog and spray matt paint all over it really want to surprise people at the lights. Dull in my humble opinion of course
And how do you propose getting an M3 or M5 near the 300hp/ton (or 1000kg kerb weight) that this E30 offers?Each to their own anyway
5678 said:
Love the concept. But £8k? Really? Eight THOUSAND pounds to fit a second hand engine and box?
I'd love to see how that breaks down.
Probably along the lines of:I'd love to see how that breaks down.
"How much do you reckon we can charge for one of these?"
"Dunno, how about eight grand?"
I reckon they've easily got £5k profit in that including labour. Buy a 540, break the rest and do it yourself and it'd cost you about £1k (custom manifold etc).
325i brakes aren't too bad if in good service, many people have used them with upgraded pad and discs on many track and race days without any major problems.
The lack of a servo isn't a massive thing as there's a bias box instead (means you have to train your leg to work with them, and you can actually brake harder without a servo without locking the wheels) just means you need to get used to it
Anyone who's driven a kart would find using the brakes in that with their left foot would be actully very similar since it's all done via leverage, instead of assisted braking.
The wiper fault is actually a common fault with E30's and nothing to do with the wiring, there's a timing disc in the wiper mechanisium which gets gummed up with old grease. Nothing much more than an hour's fiddling and cleaning following a guide from E30 Zone and you'll have a fully working set of whipers again
The lack of a servo isn't a massive thing as there's a bias box instead (means you have to train your leg to work with them, and you can actually brake harder without a servo without locking the wheels) just means you need to get used to it
Anyone who's driven a kart would find using the brakes in that with their left foot would be actully very similar since it's all done via leverage, instead of assisted braking.The wiper fault is actually a common fault with E30's and nothing to do with the wiring, there's a timing disc in the wiper mechanisium which gets gummed up with old grease. Nothing much more than an hour's fiddling and cleaning following a guide from E30 Zone and you'll have a fully working set of whipers again
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