Best way to get down a very steep hill in the snow?

Best way to get down a very steep hill in the snow?

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HellDiver

5,708 posts

182 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Hugo a Gogo said:
on a landrover roof?
Harsh. But very much lol.

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I wouldn't even attempt it if the road is really bad TBH. If you start to slide you have had it. Otherwise make sure no other cars in front then 1st or 2nd gear and try not to brake.

senor jones

98 posts

167 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Stop at the top of the hill

Phone dealers and get a price for a new back bumper and a new front bumper

if back bumper is cheaper then go down backwards
this

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Deliberately spinning the wheels is the last thing you want to do. I'd use 1st gear for max engine braking. You need to keep the wheels rotating to avoid any sideways action, and to ensure you have some steering control.

If the hill is so steep you don't think you can control the speed, then it's too steep to drive down.

The exception being if there's no-one around and nothing significant to bump in to then give it a go! Make sure you film it as well.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Mr Gear

9,416 posts

190 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Go down forwards, stop on the crest, stick car in reverse, then let it roll, when you want to stop, st loads of revs and let it dig.

Did this to get down an ice covered 1 in 3 hill last year, worked a treat!

If its an auto, stick it in N then foot off brake, foot on brake and select R, floor it.

Also useful to unplug ABS pump or something so you can lock the wheels to select a gear, also locked wheels will build up snow in front and stop better, although this will leave you more prone to sideways action!

No responsibility is taken for damage to your vehicle or anything you hit! The above advice may cause some wear to your clutch/gearbox, but it should work!


Edited by Petrolhead_Rich on Friday 3rd December 13:22
I hope this is an ironic post.
Why would it be ironic?

On a very steep hill covered with snow (and presumably ICE) this method would work, it's not great for the mechanical parts on the car, but it's a damn sight better than sliding into anything.
You have to be fking kidding. If the tyres grip you wreck your engine/gearbox. if the tyres don't grip you're out of control. It's totally stupid.

5lab

1,654 posts

196 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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fwd, rwd or 4wd?

everyone is saying stay off the brakes, but if you've only got 2 driven wheels, you'll do a much better job at controlling your speed if you keep them on. if fwd you can use the handbrake to control just the rear wheels, if rwd, the foot brake should apply much more braking force to the fronts than the rears.

A locked pair of wheels will have a lot more retardation effect than a pair rolling unbraked!

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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LeoSayer said:
I prefer to use first gear for very steep descents in slippery conditions.

Many cars increase the revs to prevent stalling if you run at close to idle, which you would need to do if you're using 2nd gear.
Aye. If it's that steep/slippery that the engine braking will cause the wheels to lock, I wouldn't want to even consider it.

Whitean3

2,184 posts

198 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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mnkiboy said:
Deliberately spinning the wheels is the last thing you want to do. I'd use 1st gear for max engine braking. You need to keep the wheels rotating to avoid any sideways action, and to ensure you have some steering control.

If the hill is so steep you don't think you can control the speed, then it's too steep to drive down.

The exception being if there's no-one around and nothing significant to bump in to then give it a go! Make sure you film it as well.
+1 on this! Our driveway (40m long or so) is steep down to the main road. My car has noticable engine braking in 1st gear, such that in normal condition,s I can go down at a very controlled speed with no throttle in 1st gear. Did this in the snow last weekend- same thing, but covering the brake pedal. you should be able to apply very light braking to control the speed, without ABS intervening.

andy43

9,701 posts

254 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Jump?

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Go down forwards, stop on the crest, stick car in reverse, then let it roll, when you want to stop, st loads of revs and let it dig.

Did this to get down an ice covered 1 in 3 hill last year, worked a treat!

If its an auto, stick it in N then foot off brake, foot on brake and select R, floor it.

Also useful to unplug ABS pump or something so you can lock the wheels to select a gear, also locked wheels will build up snow in front and stop better, although this will leave you more prone to sideways action!

No responsibility is taken for damage to your vehicle or anything you hit! The above advice may cause some wear to your clutch/gearbox, but it should work!


Edited by Petrolhead_Rich on Friday 3rd December 13:22
I hope this is an ironic post.
Why would it be ironic?

On a very steep hill covered with snow (and presumably ICE) this method would work, it's not great for the mechanical parts on the car, but it's a damn sight better than sliding into anything.
You have to be fking kidding. If the tyres grip you wreck your engine/gearbox. if the tyres don't grip you're out of control. It's totally stupid.
Tried and Tested, didn't destroy my gearbox, they dig into the ice and stop the car, I'm only talking a quick squirt.

It depends on the hill, but the OP described it as a "Very Steep Hill", probably covered in Sheet Ice, with Snow ontop!

It's my suggestion, I have tried it and know from experience it works.

Feel free to suggest your tried and tested method, let the OP decide which is best/most appropriate.

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Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Munter said:
fking 'tards, oh, I'm sliding, I will just keep the brakes hard on, oh that's not working, erm....

BANG

Oh dear, I've crashed!

rolleyes

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Don't forget to bail out at the first sign of a slide, I saw somebody do it on Youtube and it worked a treat

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

190 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Go down forwards, stop on the crest, stick car in reverse, then let it roll, when you want to stop, st loads of revs and let it dig.

Did this to get down an ice covered 1 in 3 hill last year, worked a treat!

If its an auto, stick it in N then foot off brake, foot on brake and select R, floor it.

Also useful to unplug ABS pump or something so you can lock the wheels to select a gear, also locked wheels will build up snow in front and stop better, although this will leave you more prone to sideways action!

No responsibility is taken for damage to your vehicle or anything you hit! The above advice may cause some wear to your clutch/gearbox, but it should work!


Edited by Petrolhead_Rich on Friday 3rd December 13:22
I hope this is an ironic post.
Why would it be ironic?

On a very steep hill covered with snow (and presumably ICE) this method would work, it's not great for the mechanical parts on the car, but it's a damn sight better than sliding into anything.
You have to be fking kidding. If the tyres grip you wreck your engine/gearbox. if the tyres don't grip you're out of control. It's totally stupid.
Tried and Tested, didn't destroy my gearbox, they dig into the ice and stop the car, I'm only talking a quick squirt.

It depends on the hill, but the OP described it as a "Very Steep Hill", probably covered in Sheet Ice, with Snow ontop!

It's my suggestion, I have tried it and know from experience it works.

Feel free to suggest your tried and tested method, let the OP decide which is best/most appropriate.

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Ok, fair enough. I wouldn't deliberately induce a skid or wheelspin under any circumstances. The accepted technique is to try a controlled decent without skidding. Bes way to do that is to stick it in first gear, use lots of engine braking, and assist with the brakes where possible.


Vidal Baboon

9,074 posts

215 months

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Mr Gear said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Go down forwards, stop on the crest, stick car in reverse, then let it roll, when you want to stop, st loads of revs and let it dig.

Did this to get down an ice covered 1 in 3 hill last year, worked a treat!

If its an auto, stick it in N then foot off brake, foot on brake and select R, floor it.

Also useful to unplug ABS pump or something so you can lock the wheels to select a gear, also locked wheels will build up snow in front and stop better, although this will leave you more prone to sideways action!

No responsibility is taken for damage to your vehicle or anything you hit! The above advice may cause some wear to your clutch/gearbox, but it should work!


Edited by Petrolhead_Rich on Friday 3rd December 13:22
I hope this is an ironic post.
Why would it be ironic?

On a very steep hill covered with snow (and presumably ICE) this method would work, it's not great for the mechanical parts on the car, but it's a damn sight better than sliding into anything.
You have to be fking kidding. If the tyres grip you wreck your engine/gearbox. if the tyres don't grip you're out of control. It's totally stupid.
Tried and Tested, didn't destroy my gearbox, they dig into the ice and stop the car, I'm only talking a quick squirt.

It depends on the hill, but the OP described it as a "Very Steep Hill", probably covered in Sheet Ice, with Snow ontop!

It's my suggestion, I have tried it and know from experience it works.

Feel free to suggest your tried and tested method, let the OP decide which is best/most appropriate.

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Ok, fair enough. I wouldn't deliberately induce a skid or wheelspin under any circumstances. The accepted technique is to try a controlled decent without skidding. Bes way to do that is to stick it in first gear, use lots of engine braking, and assist with the brakes where possible.
On a steep hill, yes low gear, nice and gently, that is the way, but on a very steep hill you will find the back overtakes the engine braked front and then your fked!

I figured if it was steep then they would just trickle down it, rather than posting on the internet, perhaps that was a bit naive of me!

Anything less than a 1 in 4, use a low gear, 1 in 3, depends on the grip levels, but I'd be going for being able to stop the car, rather than just being able to slow it.

cptsideways

13,544 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Keep one side to the very edge in amongst any compacted snow or verge

If you can up ok you should be able to go down safely.


What car is it? ad EBD/VSC/DSC will help in situations like this going down at least

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
Munter said:
fking 'tards, oh, I'm sliding, I will just keep the brakes hard on, oh that's not working, erm....

BANG

Oh dear, I've crashed!

rolleyes
Would you like the other angle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTaMmZsZB6o

Tumbler

1,432 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Is it possible to sprinkle a mix of cat litter and dishwasher salt along the road? It works really well.

Conian

8,030 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXrS5tlmw4&fea...
F1 car on ice (dont tell the winter tire bores please)