Why are there no decent modern classics being made?
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Take a look at the motorbike manufactures, Triumph for example. They are making modernised versions of classic 60's bikes and bikes which would not look out of place in the 60's.
Why are more car manufacturers not doing this? Ford have done it with the GT but how about a 60's style Mustang? Or a modern Ferrari designed like the 250? Or a vintage styled Aston? Or a modernised MK1 GTI? You get the idea..
With modern tastes and fashion going "vintage" how long do you think until more car manufacturers man up? Will they do it at all?
Why are more car manufacturers not doing this? Ford have done it with the GT but how about a 60's style Mustang? Or a modern Ferrari designed like the 250? Or a vintage styled Aston? Or a modernised MK1 GTI? You get the idea..
With modern tastes and fashion going "vintage" how long do you think until more car manufacturers man up? Will they do it at all?
Guvna said:
Take a look at the motorbike manufactures, Triumph for example. They are making modernised versions of classic 60's bikes and bikes which would not look out of place in the 60's.
Why are more car manufacturers not doing this? Ford have done it with the GT but how about a 60's style Mustang? Or a modern Ferrari designed like the 250? Or a vintage styled Aston? Or a modernised MK1 GTI? You get the idea..
With modern tastes and fashion going "vintage" how long do you think until more car manufacturers man up? Will they do it at all?
Morgan have been doing it for years.Why are more car manufacturers not doing this? Ford have done it with the GT but how about a 60's style Mustang? Or a modern Ferrari designed like the 250? Or a vintage styled Aston? Or a modernised MK1 GTI? You get the idea..
With modern tastes and fashion going "vintage" how long do you think until more car manufacturers man up? Will they do it at all?
Most have already, but modern safety & production requirements makes them larger and heavier, the current Ford mustang is IMHO a good example of a good retro styled modern car.
As for why Ferrari don’t . . . . . simple answer is that they can sell all the cars they can make and the majority of their newer markets couldn’t give two hoots about retro styling and those few customers that do can simply ask the bods in the Classiche department to modernise a 250
As for why Ferrari don’t . . . . . simple answer is that they can sell all the cars they can make and the majority of their newer markets couldn’t give two hoots about retro styling and those few customers that do can simply ask the bods in the Classiche department to modernise a 250
Edited by AndrewW-G on Saturday 1st January 16:14
Plenty of companies modernizing the real thing.
http://www.jensen-cars.co.uk/
http://www.eaglegb.com
http://www.kwecars.com
http://www.beacham-jaguar.co.nz
http://www.jensen-cars.co.uk/
http://www.eaglegb.com
http://www.kwecars.com
http://www.beacham-jaguar.co.nz
Guvna said:
They all look like new cars to me. The styling is not true to the originals in my opinion, despite some obvious similarities.
And so are the types you mentioned in your OP.The Ford GT and the current Triumph Bonnevilles are worlds apart in both styling and well, everything really from the 60's versions.
I think there is a touch of rose tinted glasses going on, whilst a lot of people like the idea, would enough put their money where their mouth is and buy them, especially when you could buy a restored classic for the price of a new car, which has the history behind it.
It's like reproduction antiques, they'll look the same, but they won't be have the same kudos as an actual antique.
It's like reproduction antiques, they'll look the same, but they won't be have the same kudos as an actual antique.
AnotherClarkey said:
I thought we were done with 'retro'?
You'd hope so, wouldn't you? The cynical 'recreations' which have appeared to feed the fashion victims are of no interest at all to anyone with an affinity with the cars they so blatantly leech from. However, that market is sadly a dominant one in the car world today. A new design? f
k that!! Fashion rules....Globs said:
A modern E30 would be nice too..
Isn't that what some are saying the 1M is?Anyway, modern classics, the US makers spring to mind: Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Corvette.
If you really want a modern classic I'd go for a classic classic and update the bits you want to/can afford to. Aston Works Service will do almost anything for you and Eagle will modernise an E-Type for you.
http://www.sniffpetrol.com/issue081.html
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As buyers might expect from VW, the new second-hand Golf will feature exceptional attention to detail with a range of authentic second-hand features including faded but still slightly visible stains on upholstery, light curbing to one or more alloy wheels, car wash scratches on bonnets and a funny smell in the interior which will be masked by an air freshener hanging from the rear view mirror and later traced to a rotting peach under the passenger seat.
However, whilst VW's second-hand Golf plan may seem unusual, this is not the first time the car industry has pulled off such a trick. Daewoo have been making cars that feel about a decade out of date for years.
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