The worlds worst RWD cars

[HAB]

All RWD cars are excellent drivers cars. Every single RWD car ever made, is dynamically & technically superior to the aberration that is FWD.

Furthermore, its predominance is not just limited to the automotive field. Oh no. Whatever you pit against RWD - from solid-fuel rockets to ion thrusters, or even Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket, RWD trumps them all. Without even trying.

So as we can see, RWD is superior to all other configurations. FACT.

[ShadownINja]

IforB said:

ShadownINja said:

IforB said:

One horror of a RWD car illustrates this, the old Volvo 740/940 etc. As a tool for moving lots of stuff and people around they're brilliant. As a car for driving pleasure, they're horrific.

Define driving pleasure.

Indeed. I had a lot of fun in the snow in my stbox hairdresser's car. Don't need an F3 racing car. In the end, if you enjoy driving, you will enjoy it whichever car you have as it's how you drive and your focus on what makes the drive interesting. So I don't give a st about good handling cars... in fact, if you understand what a good handling car is, you might start to think that a good handling car is actually a boring car to drive.

[IforB]

HAB said:

All RWD cars are excellent drivers cars. Every single RWD car ever made, is dynamically & technically superior to the aberration that is FWD.

Furthermore, its predominance is not just limited to the automotive field. Oh no. Whatever you pit against RWD - from solid-fuel rockets to ion thrusters, or even Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket, RWD trumps them all. Without even trying.

So as we can see, RWD is superior to all other configurations. FACT.

Yeah. 'Cos I'd much rather drive one of these:



Instead of one of these:

Edited by IforB on Tuesday 4th January 13:29

[Dr G]

Monty Python said:

Sounds to me it's the owners, not the car..

We have a woosh!

It's just about the worst in joke in the history of everything, ever

[HAB]

IforB said:

HAB said:

All RWD cars are excellent drivers cars. Every single RWD car ever made, is dynamically & technically superior to the aberration that is FWD.

Furthermore, its predominance is not just limited to the automotive field. Oh no. Whatever you pit against RWD - from solid-fuel rockets to ion thrusters, or even Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket, RWD trumps them all. Without even trying.

So as we can see, RWD is superior to all other configurations. FACT.

Yeah. 'Cos I'd much rather drive one of these:



Instead of one of these:

Edited by IforB on Tuesday 4th January 13:29

Yeah me too.

[marcosgt]

HAB said:

IforB said:

HAB said:

All RWD cars are excellent drivers cars. Every single RWD car ever made, is dynamically & technically superior to the aberration that is FWD.

Furthermore, its predominance is not just limited to the automotive field. Oh no. Whatever you pit against RWD - from solid-fuel rockets to ion thrusters, or even Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket, RWD trumps them all. Without even trying.

So as we can see, RWD is superior to all other configurations. FACT.

Yeah. 'Cos I'd much rather drive one of these:



Instead of one of these:

Edited by IforB on Tuesday 4th January 13:29

Yeah me too.

Nothing in it for me

M.

[ShadownINja]

marcosgt said:

HAB said:

IforB said:

HAB said:

All RWD cars are excellent drivers cars. Every single RWD car ever made, is dynamically & technically superior to the aberration that is FWD.

Furthermore, its predominance is not just limited to the automotive field. Oh no. Whatever you pit against RWD - from solid-fuel rockets to ion thrusters, or even Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket, RWD trumps them all. Without even trying.

So as we can see, RWD is superior to all other configurations. FACT.

Yeah. 'Cos I'd much rather drive one of these:

Instead of one of these:

Edited by IforB on Tuesday 4th January 13:29

Yeah me too.

Nothing in it for me

M.

I cannot decide whether you lot are being sarcastic or not but for the record, I'd take the old car (assuming it's RWD) especially if the track is wet because that would be a lot of fun whereas the new one, especially if the track is dry, would just be a case of racing line/quick times/going round and round until you run out of petrol which is dull. I've done both on a track and try to avoid the racing line as much as possible if only because the track is dirty away from where racing drivers drive so you can get fun slides even if you didn't intend to. Each to their own I suppose but I know where excitement lies.

And yes, racing lines can be fun when you are right on the limit but then you're achieving what I achieve only when you're on the limit and could achieve more excitement by choosing a crap, old car and be on the limit all the time.

Edited by ShadownINja on Tuesday 4th January 14:02

[RobM77]

Unless I'm missing a joke here, are people really that stupid that they can't see the difference between someone preferring RWD to FWD and someone wanting to own any piece of crud just because it's RWD? There's a massive difference between the two opinions. That's like someone saying they prefer Microsoft to Apple and people assuming they'd rather have a 286 running MS-DOS than the latest Macbook. In truth, they'd probably not want either, but if they had to pick one it would be the latest MacBook.

If you specifically select some ancient RWD box with woeful handling and then compare it to the very finest and latest FWD chassis it's hardly a comparison worth making on a thread like this. In truth I'd have neither. I would have the Megane 486RRRR thingy as a third or fourth car, but the truth is that I just don't like FWD and for the same money would rather have a 130i or similar. If they were the only two cars left in the entire world, then I would probably have to go for the Megane, for sure, but that's hardly representative of what I think about FWD and RWD

[ShadownINja]

RobM77 said:

Unless I'm missing a joke here, are people really that stupid that they can't see the difference between someone preferring RWD to FWD and someone wanting to own any piece of crud just because it's RWD? There's a massive difference between the two opinions. That's like someone saying they prefer Microsoft to Apple and people assuming they'd rather have a 286 running MS-DOS than the latest Macbook. In truth, they'd probably not want either, but if they had to pick one it would be the latest MacBook.

I think you've finally hit the nail on the head. I couldn't be bothered to type before but I do think people are not comparing like for like.

That is partly why I've been questioning peoples' understanding of handling and enjoyment.

[RobM77]

ShadownINja said:

RobM77 said:

Unless I'm missing a joke here, are people really that stupid that they can't see the difference between someone preferring RWD to FWD and someone wanting to own any piece of crud just because it's RWD? There's a massive difference between the two opinions. That's like someone saying they prefer Microsoft to Apple and people assuming they'd rather have a 286 running MS-DOS than the latest Macbook. In truth, they'd probably not want either, but if they had to pick one it would be the latest MacBook.

I think you've finally hit the nail on the head. I couldn't be bothered to type before but I do think people are not comparing like for like.

That is partly why I've been questioning peoples' understanding of handling and enjoyment.

Thanks. It's like debating with a creationist - they use stupid illogical arguments to try and confuse you. This 106 GTi vs 1960s Cadillac argument is a complete red herring.

[anonymous-user]

WeirdNeville said:

Volvo 340 GL

Woeful steering, cart springs, vague at speed (a heady 90mph if you're lucky) underpowered, crap interior, no handling to speak of... The list goes on.

I agree, but only if you are comparing to cars made much more recently, to be fair to the old brick, when compared to cars from it's era, it's actually not too bad a steer!!!

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 4th January 14:59

[IforB]

I think a few people on here need a visit from a certain whoosh parrot.

[Twincam16]

This has got to be in with a shout:

[ewenm]

Twincam16 said:

This has got to be in with a shout:

Looks perfect for cruising the US mid-west.

I suggest this:

[Mr2Mike]

WeirdNeville said:

Volvo 340 GL

Woeful steering, cart springs, vague at speed (a heady 90mph if you're lucky) underpowered, crap interior, no handling to speak of... The list goes on.

You have just accurately summarised what the delusional refer to as a "Drift weapon".

[Alfanatic]

RobM77 said:

Unless I'm missing a joke here, are people really that stupid that they can't see the difference between someone preferring RWD to FWD and someone wanting to own any piece of crud just because it's RWD? There's a massive difference between the two opinions. That's like someone saying they prefer Microsoft to Apple and people assuming they'd rather have a 286 running MS-DOS than the latest Macbook. In truth, they'd probably not want either, but if they had to pick one it would be the latest MacBook.

If you specifically select some ancient RWD box with woeful handling and then compare it to the very finest and latest FWD chassis it's hardly a comparison worth making on a thread like this. In truth I'd have neither. I would have the Megane 486RRRR thingy as a third or fourth car, but the truth is that I just don't like FWD and for the same money would rather have a 130i or similar. If they were the only two cars left in the entire world, then I would probably have to go for the Megane, for sure, but that's hardly representative of what I think about FWD and RWD

I'm not being funny, and I've driven neither of those two cars, but that vomit yellow thing looks like it would be a proper laugh to drive. It's the one I'd hop in for a day. That Megane, I fear, might leave me thinking that it's too much hot and not enough hatch, and that if that's the kind of fun I want I'd be better off in an Elise.

This though, isn't because the old yellow thing is RWD (I don't even know if it is, or even what it is, come to think of it), but just because old cars so often have a nice mechanical feel, and with their softer suspension it's so much easier to feel the weight moving around, and it's nice to have such a good view of everything, and to feel gears meshing or synchro rings, um, synchronising, a nice slim steering wheel that you guide with your fingertips, and all of that.

To be fair, I possibly couldn't like with the yellow oddity every day, but I definitely could live with something decent of the same vintage. Like an Alfa

Edited by Alfanatic on Tuesday 4th January 15:33

[RobM77]

Alfanatic said:

RobM77 said:

Unless I'm missing a joke here, are people really that stupid that they can't see the difference between someone preferring RWD to FWD and someone wanting to own any piece of crud just because it's RWD? There's a massive difference between the two opinions. That's like someone saying they prefer Microsoft to Apple and people assuming they'd rather have a 286 running MS-DOS than the latest Macbook. In truth, they'd probably not want either, but if they had to pick one it would be the latest MacBook.

If you specifically select some ancient RWD box with woeful handling and then compare it to the very finest and latest FWD chassis it's hardly a comparison worth making on a thread like this. In truth I'd have neither. I would have the Megane 486RRRR thingy as a third or fourth car, but the truth is that I just don't like FWD and for the same money would rather have a 130i or similar. If they were the only two cars left in the entire world, then I would probably have to go for the Megane, for sure, but that's hardly representative of what I think about FWD and RWD

I'm not being funny, and I've driven neither of those two cars, but that vomit yellow thing looks like it would be a proper laugh to drive. It's the one I'd hop in for a day. That Megane, I fear, might leave me thinking that it's too much hot and not enough hatch, and that if that's the kind of fun I want I'd be better off in an Elise.

This though, isn't because the old yellow thing is RWD (I don't even know if it is, or even what it is, come to think of it), but just because old cars so often have a nice mechanical feel, and with their softer suspension it's so much easier to feel the weight moving around, and it's nice to have such a good view of everything, and to feel gears meshing or synchro rings, um, synchronising, a nice slim steering wheel that you guide with your fingertips, and all of that.

To be fair, I possibly couldn't like with the yellow oddity every day, but I definitely could live with something decent of the same vintage. Like an Alfa

Edited by Alfanatic on Tuesday 4th January 15:33

I agree. It wasn't those specific cars that crop up, just the type of posts I was having a pop at. It's like someone suggesting that a fan of FWD would prefer a mk1 Micra to a Mclaren F1 - ridiculous!

[y282]

12gauge said:

HellDiver said:

Hyundai Stellar (recycled Cortina).

Is it really?

People always says its a cortina, doesnt look anything like a cortina to me.

thought the stellar was fwd?

[al1991]

rehab71 said:

Monty Python said:

v8will said:

MX5

335D (mapped)

Seems to cover 99% of threads posted on PH

Why a mapped 335D?

Use the search button at the top!

Don't bother.

An archaic joke, and not even a funny one.

[y282]

tr7. fking chronic.