RE: Driven: Mercedes CLS 63 AMG

RE: Driven: Mercedes CLS 63 AMG

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Dagnut

3,515 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Cassius81 said:
Like it...a lot. Although am not a fan of DRLs, no matter what car they are on.

Don't the gold calipers mark it out as having the (presumably) optional ceramic discs?
I have to wonder why anyone would want Carbon discs on a car like this? they don't improve stopping distances only reduce fade... realistically the only place your going to induce fade is at the track..who tracks a 1.8 ton CLS??

Cassius81

280 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Like it...a lot. Although am not a fan of DRLs, no matter what car they are on.

Don't the gold calipers mark it out as having the (presumably) optional ceramic discs?
I have to wonder why anyone would want Carbon discs on a car like this? they don't improve stopping distances only reduce fade... realistically the only place your going to induce fade is at the track..who tracks a 1.8 ton CLS??
Says a lot about the people that buy them in my view, i.e. they are likely to be happy to spend a lot of money on extras, regardless of practical application. Same for the Audi S8 - you see quite a few of those with ceramics...

But then if I had the money, I'd probably do the same, so it isn't a criticism!

Dagnut

3,515 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Cassius81 said:
Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Like it...a lot. Although am not a fan of DRLs, no matter what car they are on.

Don't the gold calipers mark it out as having the (presumably) optional ceramic discs?
I have to wonder why anyone would want Carbon discs on a car like this? they don't improve stopping distances only reduce fade... realistically the only place your going to induce fade is at the track..who tracks a 1.8 ton CLS??
Says a lot about the people that buy them in my view, i.e. they are likely to be happy to spend a lot of money on extras, regardless of practical application. Same for the Audi S8 - you see quite a few of those with ceramics...

But then if I had the money, I'd probably do the same, so it isn't a criticism!
I wouldn't it's pointless..in fact I bet carbon ceramics perform slightly worse when cold, because of the harder compound pads(just guess work) so if you're just pulling out of your driveway in the morning and need to slam on I reckon standard disks would stop you better

Cassius81

280 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Like it...a lot. Although am not a fan of DRLs, no matter what car they are on.

Don't the gold calipers mark it out as having the (presumably) optional ceramic discs?
I have to wonder why anyone would want Carbon discs on a car like this? they don't improve stopping distances only reduce fade... realistically the only place your going to induce fade is at the track..who tracks a 1.8 ton CLS??
Says a lot about the people that buy them in my view, i.e. they are likely to be happy to spend a lot of money on extras, regardless of practical application. Same for the Audi S8 - you see quite a few of those with ceramics...

But then if I had the money, I'd probably do the same, so it isn't a criticism!
I wouldn't it's pointless..in fact I bet carbon ceramics perform slightly worse when cold, because of the harder compound pads(just guess work) so if you're just pulling out of your driveway in the morning and need to slam on I reckon standard disks would stop you better
That sounds right... But if you did a lot of high speed driving, not necessarily on the track (e.g. on the autobahn?) the ceramics might be useful though? Repeated stops from 100mph plus...?

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Cassius81 said:
Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Like it...a lot. Although am not a fan of DRLs, no matter what car they are on.

Don't the gold calipers mark it out as having the (presumably) optional ceramic discs?
I have to wonder why anyone would want Carbon discs on a car like this? they don't improve stopping distances only reduce fade... realistically the only place your going to induce fade is at the track..who tracks a 1.8 ton CLS??
Says a lot about the people that buy them in my view, i.e. they are likely to be happy to spend a lot of money on extras, regardless of practical application. Same for the Audi S8 - you see quite a few of those with ceramics...

But then if I had the money, I'd probably do the same, so it isn't a criticism!
I wouldn't it's pointless..in fact I bet carbon ceramics perform slightly worse when cold, because of the harder compound pads(just guess work) so if you're just pulling out of your driveway in the morning and need to slam on I reckon standard disks would stop you better
That sounds right... But if you did a lot of high speed driving, not necessarily on the track (e.g. on the autobahn?) the ceramics might be useful though? Repeated stops from 100mph plus...?
Repeated stops on the Autobahn? eek

I think what you mean is repeated braking from high speeds - if you cruise on the Autobahn at 250 km/h, you will frequently have to scrub off 100 km/h. It only makes sense to do this of course in a car that can put that speed back on quickly (such as this one).

Cassius81

280 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Zod said:
Cassius81 said:
Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Dagnut said:
Cassius81 said:
Like it...a lot. Although am not a fan of DRLs, no matter what car they are on.

Don't the gold calipers mark it out as having the (presumably) optional ceramic discs?
I have to wonder why anyone would want Carbon discs on a car like this? they don't improve stopping distances only reduce fade... realistically the only place your going to induce fade is at the track..who tracks a 1.8 ton CLS??
Says a lot about the people that buy them in my view, i.e. they are likely to be happy to spend a lot of money on extras, regardless of practical application. Same for the Audi S8 - you see quite a few of those with ceramics...

But then if I had the money, I'd probably do the same, so it isn't a criticism!
I wouldn't it's pointless..in fact I bet carbon ceramics perform slightly worse when cold, because of the harder compound pads(just guess work) so if you're just pulling out of your driveway in the morning and need to slam on I reckon standard disks would stop you better
That sounds right... But if you did a lot of high speed driving, not necessarily on the track (e.g. on the autobahn?) the ceramics might be useful though? Repeated stops from 100mph plus...?
Repeated stops on the Autobahn? eek

I think what you mean is repeated braking from high speeds - if you cruise on the Autobahn at 250 km/h, you will frequently have to scrub off 100 km/h. It only makes sense to do this of course in a car that can put that speed back on quickly (such as this one).
Zod - correct, my apologies. I did indeed mean repeated high speed braking (followed by piling on speed again), not emergency stops!

auditt

715 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I want one and i dont even like 4 door cars biggrin

down4whatever

116 posts

169 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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This is a really, extremely, massively GLOWING review (albeit not a full road test). Which is unusual.
As has been said above; WANT!

MarkoNoTVR

1,139 posts

233 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Mannginger said:
The old CLS was a looker but this looks even better, especially in AMG guise. The Black should be pretty menacing!

Edited by Mannginger on Tuesday 25th January 13:05
+1

Wanted the old one, want the new one.

GhostDriver

878 posts

191 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Never been a fan of Mercs,

But this has so much awesome presenceness and fully justifes a word to be made up for it.

torres del paine

1,588 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I've always coveted *big* Mercs, even the crap ones.

This is a proper intergalactic cruiser and very nice it is too in that omnipotent German way.


ram17

56 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Sweeeeeeeeet! I'm lovin that frontal view, that would look like a sledgehammer comin up on ya at let's say 150 mph. There are several models from various manufacturers that I like and this is definetly one of them. AMG gents are spicen things up and I'm lookin forward to hearin what those 557 ponies sound like comin out of those quad pipes. This one will be on my short list of must test drives.drivingSEE YA AT THE RACES!!!

ZesPak

24,420 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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The road presence of these big AMG's is just amazing.
I'd love to own one one day in one form or another.

I had the good fortune to be in a SL65 AMG once, in a tunnel

cloud9

thpfft

5 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Nasty. Overcomplicated. Droupé.

Also, 'carbon finish lip spoiler'. redcard

G0ldfysh

3,304 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Limited to 185?
Has there been a change in the Gentleman's agreement on where the limiter kicks?

F1GTRUeno

6,333 posts

217 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Gotta wonder what car you're all looking at when you say it looks good.

Horrible, utterly horrible.

Tuvra

7,920 posts

224 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Porsche997C4S said:
Like it apart from the wood in the interior of the car.
This.

Piano Black would look much better!

militantmandy

3,829 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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G0ldfysh said:
Limited to 185?
Has there been a change in the Gentleman's agreement on where the limiter kicks?
The performance pack knocks it up from 155 to 185 as on the C63...I imagine!

LimitedSlipDisk

229 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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I love it, not exactly a looker but I'd love one.

Oh and hi everyone.

This isn't a very good first post, I think I've 'flopped' on my first post, thats never happened before.

:getscoat:

soad

32,825 posts

175 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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What a good write up, thumbs up.