Murdoch cleared to buy BSkyB...
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"The British government has approved a controversial bid by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation to buy the 61% stake in BSkyB that it does not already own.
The green light follows News Corp's offer to spin-off Sky News as an independent company."
So does that mean murdoch will still have sky news too but ran seperately?
The green light follows News Corp's offer to spin-off Sky News as an independent company."
So does that mean murdoch will still have sky news too but ran seperately?
Victor McDade said:
Not sure why this was 'controversial' in the first place. Maybe I'm being naive but does this decision really have an impact on our lives? There are lots of news sources to choose from these days - Murdoch does not have a monopoly.
Ironically the BBC seem to be the most upset about a new broadcasting "monopoly".wolves_wanderer said:
Victor McDade said:
Not sure why this was 'controversial' in the first place. Maybe I'm being naive but does this decision really have an impact on our lives? There are lots of news sources to choose from these days - Murdoch does not have a monopoly.
Ironically the BBC seem to be the most upset about a new broadcasting "monopoly".The problem is that News Corp owns a few newspapers. Newspapers can editorialise to their heart's content, push any agenda they wish, etc - the BBC is much more constricted in that regard.
The fear is that a wholly-owned BSB would become Murdoch's mouthpiece. Sky do pretty much all the news on commercial radio stations as well.
Anyway, BSB shareholders might tell Murdoch to p
s off. Who knows.
The fear is that a wholly-owned BSB would become Murdoch's mouthpiece. Sky do pretty much all the news on commercial radio stations as well.
Anyway, BSB shareholders might tell Murdoch to p
s off. Who knows.hyperblue said:
I'm trying to work out why the BBC wants us to be outraged by this, anyone care to shed some light?
It's not really the BBC alone, ITN are spitting blood behind closed doors and the quote below shows a fairly broad spectrum who are less than delighted.The announcement was condemned as a “whitewash” by the alliance of media groups opposing the deal, which includes BT, Guardian Media Group, Associated Newspapers, Trinity Mirror, Northcliffe Media and Telegraph Media Group.
MadMullah said:
"The British government has approved a controversial bid by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation to buy the 61% stake in BSkyB that it does not already own.
The green light follows News Corp's offer to spin-off Sky News as an independent company."
So does that mean murdoch will still have sky news too but ran seperately?
Now witness this fully armed and operational news corporation.The green light follows News Corp's offer to spin-off Sky News as an independent company."
So does that mean murdoch will still have sky news too but ran seperately?
So Murdoch will get his hands on Sky after all.
"British broadcaster Sky has agreed an £18bn takeover by Rupert Murdoch’s US media group 21st Century Fox five years after a takeover was abandoned at the height of the phone-hacking scandal."
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/09/r...
"British broadcaster Sky has agreed an £18bn takeover by Rupert Murdoch’s US media group 21st Century Fox five years after a takeover was abandoned at the height of the phone-hacking scandal."
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/09/r...
Am I the only one who thinks that Murdoch has gone in the wrong direction here. Broadcast media is so 20th Century and rapidly losing traction as the way to influence minds.
About the only thing broadcast TV has any USP for these days is live sports events, and ever-faster broadband is even making that obsolete.
About the only thing broadcast TV has any USP for these days is live sports events, and ever-faster broadband is even making that obsolete.
Ken Clarke was recently giving evidence to the Competition and Markets Authority and said some interesting things.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a1...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a1...
Ken Clarke said:
Quite how David Cameron got The Sun out of the hands of Gordon Brown I shall never know. Rupert would never let Tony (Blair) down because Tony had backed the Iraq war.
Maybe it was some sort of a deal. David would not tell me what it was. Suddenly we got the Murdoch empire on our side.
Within a week or two we had got Andy Coulson on board - I think he was Murdoch's man, that was part of the deal I assume - as the press officer. I am not being totally indiscreet. Nobody seemed bothered by it very much.
Within a few weeks of taking over, my Prime Minister arranged a meeting with Rebekah Brooks. Rebekah Brooks described herself as running the government - now in partnership with David Cameron.
I found myself having an extraordinary meeting with Rebekah who was instructing me on criminal justice policy from now on, as I think she had instructed my predecessor, so far as I could see, judging from the numbers of people we had in prison and the growth of rather exotic sentences.
She wanted me to buy prison ships because she did accept that the capacity of the prisons was getting rather strained... She really was solemnly telling me that we had got to have prison ships because she had got some more campaigns coming, which is one of her specialities.
I regarded this as a very amusing conversation and took not the slightest notice. As long as I was Justice Secretary we would not have any of this. I do not think my successor (Chris Grayling) needed any promoting from Rebekah so it all went back to the norm.
Maybe it was some sort of a deal. David would not tell me what it was. Suddenly we got the Murdoch empire on our side.
Within a week or two we had got Andy Coulson on board - I think he was Murdoch's man, that was part of the deal I assume - as the press officer. I am not being totally indiscreet. Nobody seemed bothered by it very much.
Within a few weeks of taking over, my Prime Minister arranged a meeting with Rebekah Brooks. Rebekah Brooks described herself as running the government - now in partnership with David Cameron.
I found myself having an extraordinary meeting with Rebekah who was instructing me on criminal justice policy from now on, as I think she had instructed my predecessor, so far as I could see, judging from the numbers of people we had in prison and the growth of rather exotic sentences.
She wanted me to buy prison ships because she did accept that the capacity of the prisons was getting rather strained... She really was solemnly telling me that we had got to have prison ships because she had got some more campaigns coming, which is one of her specialities.
I regarded this as a very amusing conversation and took not the slightest notice. As long as I was Justice Secretary we would not have any of this. I do not think my successor (Chris Grayling) needed any promoting from Rebekah so it all went back to the norm.
BlackLabel said:
Ken Clarke was recently giving evidence to the Competition and Markets Authority and said some interesting things.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a1...
oh well, at least we know the suspicions many of us had were true after all . https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a1...
Ken Clarke said:
Quite how David Cameron got The Sun out of the hands of Gordon Brown I shall never know. Rupert would never let Tony (Blair) down because Tony had backed the Iraq war.
Maybe it was some sort of a deal. David would not tell me what it was. Suddenly we got the Murdoch empire on our side.
Within a week or two we had got Andy Coulson on board - I think he was Murdoch's man, that was part of the deal I assume - as the press officer. I am not being totally indiscreet. Nobody seemed bothered by it very much.
Within a few weeks of taking over, my Prime Minister arranged a meeting with Rebekah Brooks. Rebekah Brooks described herself as running the government - now in partnership with David Cameron.
I found myself having an extraordinary meeting with Rebekah who was instructing me on criminal justice policy from now on, as I think she had instructed my predecessor, so far as I could see, judging from the numbers of people we had in prison and the growth of rather exotic sentences.
She wanted me to buy prison ships because she did accept that the capacity of the prisons was getting rather strained... She really was solemnly telling me that we had got to have prison ships because she had got some more campaigns coming, which is one of her specialities.
I regarded this as a very amusing conversation and took not the slightest notice. As long as I was Justice Secretary we would not have any of this. I do not think my successor (Chris Grayling) needed any promoting from Rebekah so it all went back to the norm.
Maybe it was some sort of a deal. David would not tell me what it was. Suddenly we got the Murdoch empire on our side.
Within a week or two we had got Andy Coulson on board - I think he was Murdoch's man, that was part of the deal I assume - as the press officer. I am not being totally indiscreet. Nobody seemed bothered by it very much.
Within a few weeks of taking over, my Prime Minister arranged a meeting with Rebekah Brooks. Rebekah Brooks described herself as running the government - now in partnership with David Cameron.
I found myself having an extraordinary meeting with Rebekah who was instructing me on criminal justice policy from now on, as I think she had instructed my predecessor, so far as I could see, judging from the numbers of people we had in prison and the growth of rather exotic sentences.
She wanted me to buy prison ships because she did accept that the capacity of the prisons was getting rather strained... She really was solemnly telling me that we had got to have prison ships because she had got some more campaigns coming, which is one of her specialities.
I regarded this as a very amusing conversation and took not the slightest notice. As long as I was Justice Secretary we would not have any of this. I do not think my successor (Chris Grayling) needed any promoting from Rebekah so it all went back to the norm.
BlackLabel said:
Ken Clarke was recently giving evidence to the Competition and Markets Authority and said some interesting things.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a1...
All rather insidious, a grim lil window into so called journalists and their agendas. I recall have a chat with Tam Dayall about the Iraq war and what was going on. One of the few politicians I had respect for.https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a1...
Ken Clarke said:
Quite how David Cameron got The Sun out of the hands of Gordon Brown I shall never know. Rupert would never let Tony (Blair) down because Tony had backed the Iraq war.
Maybe it was some sort of a deal. David would not tell me what it was. Suddenly we got the Murdoch empire on our side.
Within a week or two we had got Andy Coulson on board - I think he was Murdoch's man, that was part of the deal I assume - as the press officer. I am not being totally indiscreet. Nobody seemed bothered by it very much.
Within a few weeks of taking over, my Prime Minister arranged a meeting with Rebekah Brooks. Rebekah Brooks described herself as running the government - now in partnership with David Cameron.
I found myself having an extraordinary meeting with Rebekah who was instructing me on criminal justice policy from now on, as I think she had instructed my predecessor, so far as I could see, judging from the numbers of people we had in prison and the growth of rather exotic sentences.
She wanted me to buy prison ships because she did accept that the capacity of the prisons was getting rather strained... She really was solemnly telling me that we had got to have prison ships because she had got some more campaigns coming, which is one of her specialities.
I regarded this as a very amusing conversation and took not the slightest notice. As long as I was Justice Secretary we would not have any of this. I do not think my successor (Chris Grayling) needed any promoting from Rebekah so it all went back to the norm.
Maybe it was some sort of a deal. David would not tell me what it was. Suddenly we got the Murdoch empire on our side.
Within a week or two we had got Andy Coulson on board - I think he was Murdoch's man, that was part of the deal I assume - as the press officer. I am not being totally indiscreet. Nobody seemed bothered by it very much.
Within a few weeks of taking over, my Prime Minister arranged a meeting with Rebekah Brooks. Rebekah Brooks described herself as running the government - now in partnership with David Cameron.
I found myself having an extraordinary meeting with Rebekah who was instructing me on criminal justice policy from now on, as I think she had instructed my predecessor, so far as I could see, judging from the numbers of people we had in prison and the growth of rather exotic sentences.
She wanted me to buy prison ships because she did accept that the capacity of the prisons was getting rather strained... She really was solemnly telling me that we had got to have prison ships because she had got some more campaigns coming, which is one of her specialities.
I regarded this as a very amusing conversation and took not the slightest notice. As long as I was Justice Secretary we would not have any of this. I do not think my successor (Chris Grayling) needed any promoting from Rebekah so it all went back to the norm.
I thought the reason Murdoch jumped ship was well known and little to do with concessions. Many suggest Blair was being a bit too friendly with the Murdochs.
Interesting with regards to Brookes. There were rumours at the time of her sticking her nose in various places. This would appear to be confirmation.
Interesting with regards to Brookes. There were rumours at the time of her sticking her nose in various places. This would appear to be confirmation.
It appears Murdoch is giving up on his ambition to own all of Sky.
"Rupert Murdoch has agreed to sell $66bn (£49bn) worth of 21st Century Fox’s assets, including a Hollywood film studio and 39% stake in Sky, in a deal that transforms his media empire.
The takeover involves the 86-year-old tycoon and his family taking a 4.25% stake in Disney, gaining control of assets including Avatar, X-Men, The Simpsons and Modern Family as well as the FX and National Geographic businesses."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/dec/14/rupe...
"Rupert Murdoch has agreed to sell $66bn (£49bn) worth of 21st Century Fox’s assets, including a Hollywood film studio and 39% stake in Sky, in a deal that transforms his media empire.
The takeover involves the 86-year-old tycoon and his family taking a 4.25% stake in Disney, gaining control of assets including Avatar, X-Men, The Simpsons and Modern Family as well as the FX and National Geographic businesses."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/dec/14/rupe...
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