RE: PH Investigates: Ginetta's Road Cars
Discussion
Spiritual_Beggar said:
I said it in the other thread last week....
Those F400's are real lookers! And performance to suit!
Price tag does put it amongst some serious competition though.
It's a genuinely brilliant car.Those F400's are real lookers! And performance to suit!
Price tag does put it amongst some serious competition though.
I went to buy one a while back but a couple of things held me back. A minor reservation was back in it's previous incarnation I didn't want to own another car from a now defunct manufacturer. I very mush suspect that this is resolved now that Ginetta own it and have also ditched the Italian porn star name of what is a fantastic English car.
However, the real problem that I had with the car was that when you sat in it you didn't feel that all the driver components were in quite the right place. There was loads of room, loads, it's an amazing space to sit in but the seat, pedals, wheel and stick just weren't in harmony with each other. You couldn't get it so that all were where you expected them to be with your eyes shut.
Now, I suspect that one of these issues was so glaring that this is what LNT has been spending time on rectifying. If that is the case then I am genuinely excited about seeing this car back with such a good badge on it.
A Scotsman said:
Fittster said:
Don't really think we are comparing like for like. The Ginetta is a much more specialised car than the MR2 and MX-5, the only true comparison is the Exige.
The MX-5 range is 19K-21K.
What's with this "more specialised" tag.. This is a road car we're talking about not a race car and it's intended to be used in the same way as an MR2 or MX-5. The MX-5 range is 19K-21K.
Fittster said:
DJC said:
I cant help but feel £30k needs to play with a little more than 150 horses.
What is the G40 weighing?
Some people who claim to be in the know say the info on the website is incorrect but for what it's worth.What is the G40 weighing?
Lightweight 6 piece composite body Approx. 800kg
mitch78 said:
julian64 said:
The 95K needs to come down to 50K and then Ginetta will be the new TVR IMHO.
You're right. If they dropped it to ~£50k they would be the new TVR, unable to provide reliable cars for the money and bankrupt in no time.The sort of people who didn't care much about sat navs, the fit of the internal decor, or all the other crap that people to seem to care about today in their vectras and mondeos, but did care about having a decent lightweight package with a decent engine, in other words a car with a bit of character in a sea of crap eurobox monotony.
Small market perhaps in this day and age but probably enough to keep a niche manufacturer alive.
I love the idea of this and it seems to suit the current market with the issue of fuel prices. I have looked around at other potential cars that deliver on performance but without the fuel costs of my current car and there is little to choose from. The G40 would be a good addition and imagine if you got someone to strap on a turbo or supercharger!! It looks like there is space for it and with just 200hp it would be a bit of an animal!
Does anyone know if someone has done this??
Does anyone know if someone has done this??
The G40R deserves to succeed. Using an engine that someone else has developed, and priced well below the Exige should make it marketable IF Ginetta work on quality. It sounds like they are, rather than releasing shoddy quality onto unsuspecting customers to do the manufacture’s testing, per TVR...
The FW400 on the other hand requires something really engaging to get buyers to continue past the Lotus dealership, the Ultima factory, and the Second-hand Ferrari specialist and then part with £95k (plus options? plus VAT?). I’m not sure that it has what it will take yet.
The FW400 on the other hand requires something really engaging to get buyers to continue past the Lotus dealership, the Ultima factory, and the Second-hand Ferrari specialist and then part with £95k (plus options? plus VAT?). I’m not sure that it has what it will take yet.
sideways sid said:
The G40R deserves to succeed. Using an engine that someone else has developed, and priced well below the Exige should make it marketable IF Ginetta work on quality. It sounds like they are, rather than releasing shoddy quality onto unsuspecting customers to do the manufacture’s testing, per TVR...
The FW400 on the other hand requires something really engaging to get buyers to continue past the Lotus dealership, the Ultima factory, and the Second-hand Ferrari specialist and then part with £95k (plus options? plus VAT?). I’m not sure that it has what it will take yet.
The G40 is a brilliant thing and as you say, using something like the proven Duratec and conventional general components could be a really great enthusiasts car. The FW400 on the other hand requires something really engaging to get buyers to continue past the Lotus dealership, the Ultima factory, and the Second-hand Ferrari specialist and then part with £95k (plus options? plus VAT?). I’m not sure that it has what it will take yet.
The F400, you have to drive one, they are brilliant. And to be frank £95k is nothing as this car stacks up really well against Porsche, Ferrari and others.
There's no real shortage of people spending that kind of money on cars, but we have to concede that many are making status purchases which rule this car out.
It'll never have the golf club kudos or modern tech of the mass produced cars but I'm sure there are enough proper enthusiasts left who would prefer this to the more ubiquitous exotica.
Having a name like Ginetta on the back with its fast growing racing pedigree and long history will help I think, in contrast to what it used to be called. I never understood that name and why anyone who is English and has a love of English sprorts cars would be attraqcted to something called Farbio.
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