RE: PH Investigates: Ginetta's Road Cars
Discussion
G40 is a bit expensive, but i cant think of another car thats road legal and is a direct development of the racing version, incorporating such things as FIA safety cell, Fia fuel cell,LSD, 4 pot brakes as standard
their chassis is exceptionally strong and makes a great dual purpose car
and if it retains the sequential six speed box, thats also unheard of for road car of this type.
their chassis is exceptionally strong and makes a great dual purpose car
and if it retains the sequential six speed box, thats also unheard of for road car of this type.
Edited by geeeman on Monday 21st March 16:29
julian64 said:
mitch78 said:
julian64 said:
The 95K needs to come down to 50K and then Ginetta will be the new TVR IMHO.
You're right. If they dropped it to ~£50k they would be the new TVR, unable to provide reliable cars for the money and bankrupt in no time.The sort of people who didn't care much about sat navs, the fit of the internal decor, or all the other crap that people to seem to care about today in their vectras and mondeos, but did care about having a decent lightweight package with a decent engine, in other words a car with a bit of character in a sea of crap eurobox monotony.
Small market perhaps in this day and age but probably enough to keep a niche manufacturer alive.
I love them - but really want them to develop the G50 into a road car. I think there's definitely a market for these, and wish them all the best - Ginetta seem to be doing things right though and concentrating on their core business, which is producing racing cars rather than having pie in the sky aspirations to take over the world. It might be a labour of love, but I can't see LNT failing with Ginetta - it is in safe hands.
Some shots from when I was lucky enough to visit the factory a while back (fantastic experience and thanks to everyone at Ginetta).
Some shots from when I was lucky enough to visit the factory a while back (fantastic experience and thanks to everyone at Ginetta).
bumped into a couple of prototype F400s down at LeMans last year, they looked absolutely wonderful...except that thing going on with the door scoop/vents. The car looks better in the flesh than pictures - except for side on, ruined by the air holes.
bet that gets reworked pretty quickly.
bet that gets reworked pretty quickly.
Looks like it's going to be another good year for Ginetta then, new and old.
With the good news last week that the 1965 V8 G10 is back on the circuit after all these years, the G4 is 50 this year, the original G10 road car has been located in the US, again after many, many years. Yes, all good.
Back in 65 on it's first outing at Brands(soft top then), hardly a shake down and Chris Meek blew away the low-drag Coupe E-type (Protheroe's ex car) and won outright. Good old days... back again!
Lovely story about the Ginetta name on the rear of the G10: the Walkletts were 'told off' because they had a tiny 'brake company' sponsor sticker on the car and got a 'remove it or else' from officials. So annoyed were they that they stuck the marque name 12 inches high in bright yellow plastic tape on the rear. Bob Walklett recounted that it caused enormous displeasure among some of the officials.
With the good news last week that the 1965 V8 G10 is back on the circuit after all these years, the G4 is 50 this year, the original G10 road car has been located in the US, again after many, many years. Yes, all good.
Back in 65 on it's first outing at Brands(soft top then), hardly a shake down and Chris Meek blew away the low-drag Coupe E-type (Protheroe's ex car) and won outright. Good old days... back again!
Lovely story about the Ginetta name on the rear of the G10: the Walkletts were 'told off' because they had a tiny 'brake company' sponsor sticker on the car and got a 'remove it or else' from officials. So annoyed were they that they stuck the marque name 12 inches high in bright yellow plastic tape on the rear. Bob Walklett recounted that it caused enormous displeasure among some of the officials.
Edited by dandarez on Monday 21st March 18:49
therealpigdog said:
I love them - but really want them to develop the G50 into a road car. I think there's definitely a market for these, and wish them all the best - Ginetta seem to be doing things right though and concentrating on their core business, which is producing racing cars rather than having pie in the sky aspirations to take over the world. It might be a labour of love, but I can't see LNT failing with Ginetta - it is in safe hands.
Some shots from when I was lucky enough to visit the factory a while back (fantastic experience and thanks to everyone at Ginetta).
like the purple ginetta.Some shots from when I was lucky enough to visit the factory a while back (fantastic experience and thanks to everyone at Ginetta).
EDLT said:
julian64 said:
mitch78 said:
julian64 said:
The 95K needs to come down to 50K and then Ginetta will be the new TVR IMHO.
You're right. If they dropped it to ~£50k they would be the new TVR, unable to provide reliable cars for the money and bankrupt in no time.The sort of people who didn't care much about sat navs, the fit of the internal decor, or all the other crap that people to seem to care about today in their vectras and mondeos, but did care about having a decent lightweight package with a decent engine, in other words a car with a bit of character in a sea of crap eurobox monotony.
Small market perhaps in this day and age but probably enough to keep a niche manufacturer alive.
But Bristol - they're massively misunderstood on this site. They're built and trimmed to Rolls-Royce standards, but with high-quality understatement in place of overblown opulence. Nothing like TVR at all.
Back on topic, I like Ginetta a lot. They deserve to do well (if sales are realistic and directed at the right people), possibly stepping into the Elise's shoes if Lotus are determined to go Ferrari-chasing.
2mad said:
therealpigdog said:
I love them - but really want them to develop the G50 into a road car. I think there's definitely a market for these, and wish them all the best - Ginetta seem to be doing things right though and concentrating on their core business, which is producing racing cars rather than having pie in the sky aspirations to take over the world. It might be a labour of love, but I can't see LNT failing with Ginetta - it is in safe hands.
Some shots from when I was lucky enough to visit the factory a while back (fantastic experience and thanks to everyone at Ginetta).
like the purple ginetta.Some shots from when I was lucky enough to visit the factory a while back (fantastic experience and thanks to everyone at Ginetta).
Thanks to all PHs for their comments, I follow the comments but don't always comment. I think one of the main difference with Ginetta is that we never want to produce more than 300 cars a year TOTAL including our race cars. The G40 is a brilliant car to drive road and race - I've had a go in both......
The idea of the G40 road car is going back to the days when you could drive your race car to a circuit. The G40 road car has the same safety cage as the 24 hour class winning car..... Not many competitors can do that for £30k ish. It is a track focused car for enthusiast, but you can get all your kit in the boot. I love it.
Thanks for all your support
Lawrence
The idea of the G40 road car is going back to the days when you could drive your race car to a circuit. The G40 road car has the same safety cage as the 24 hour class winning car..... Not many competitors can do that for £30k ish. It is a track focused car for enthusiast, but you can get all your kit in the boot. I love it.
Thanks for all your support
Lawrence
Ginettas seem to be great cars technically but do they have to appear like a kit car?
The only way small companies can differentiate themselves from competition is with some extraordinary design. Or at least some sophiticated or pretty one.
The only pretty Ginetta I know of is the G3. I do not know who came up with it but it is well proportioned and has a beautiful form.
I have to say the current Ginetta designs look too amateurish and much too conservative.
Cool shapes do not cost much more. One just need more time to think them up and resolve them.
Get customers excited to want one. Great engineering others also can do but the emotions are transported via appearence. Sportcars have to be alluring, outrages or attractive in order to be remembered and stick to mind. It enhances value for money tremendously if I get an exciting shape included in the engineering package.
Just as some examples, this where exciting designs:
Well, I know, it is down to taste of cause, but the current Ginettas do not have anything special and exciting.
Edited by vintageracer01 on Monday 21st March 20:40
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