What's faster? CHAMP car or F1?
Discussion
acf8181 said:
davepoth said:
On an oval, probably a champ car just because of the power. Anywhere else an F1 car will be much better.
i reckon if an f1 car was set up for an oval it would still be quicker...they weigh less and have more power as well as more gripChamp cars are more powerful as well, 950hp is the figure quoted here...
http://champcar-ws.com/series_tech___dp01_champ_ca...
I think even if an F1 was set up for a fast oval such as Indy, the Champ car would still be faster by virtue of the generally more slippery aero design and extra power.
On a non oval the F1 would be faster.
Regiment said:
TXWRX said:
champ car raced at montreal in 2006 and the cars were 7 seconds a lap slower than f1 that year, on a more aero circuit this would be a bigger gap
How would that compare to a 908HDI FAP?Well according to this (http://champcar-ws.com/series_tech___dp01_champ_car), a champ car can do 240mph tops, while a 2011 F1 car (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/circuit_guide/default.stm) reaches 215mph, so it would appear the champ car is faster.
Also, the champ car has a higher power to weight ratio (~1340bhp/ton compared to ~1250bhp/ton for the F1).
Also, the champ car has a higher power to weight ratio (~1340bhp/ton compared to ~1250bhp/ton for the F1).
I seem to remember a few years ago, back before F1 went to Indy there was speculation about how fast an F1 car would be on the oval. Can't find the quote now but Jacques Villeneuve said that he thought an F1 car, setup correctly would be quicker round the oval than the Champ Cars of the time.
All speculation of course! Would love to see one have a go mind...
All speculation of course! Would love to see one have a go mind...
Depends on what tune you have the F1 car in.
Before Honda ceased interest and sold out to Brawn, I seem to recall them preparing and maybe succeeding in bringin one of their V10 cars up to 400 km/h. I would expect with the vast adjustments available, that for any situation the F1 car can be adapted to be quicker than a champ car.
CK
Before Honda ceased interest and sold out to Brawn, I seem to recall them preparing and maybe succeeding in bringin one of their V10 cars up to 400 km/h. I would expect with the vast adjustments available, that for any situation the F1 car can be adapted to be quicker than a champ car.
CK
It depends what era you're talking about - Champ cars no longer exist.
If we go for the end of the Champ car era (2007):
F1 car: 750BHP, 605kg, 1240BHP/tonne
Champcar: 750BHP (800BHP using push-to-pass), 727kg, 1031BHP/tonne
And an F1 car has a bit more downforce. So F1 car faster.
If we look at the peak of F1 cars with peak of Champ cars
F1 car (2004): 950BHP, 605kg, 1560BHP/tonne
Champ car (2001): 950BHP, 727kg, 1306BHP/tonne
And if we compare pole times of these cars:
F1 - 1:12.275
Champ car - 1:18.959
It's pretty conclusive.
If we go for the end of the Champ car era (2007):
F1 car: 750BHP, 605kg, 1240BHP/tonne
Champcar: 750BHP (800BHP using push-to-pass), 727kg, 1031BHP/tonne
And an F1 car has a bit more downforce. So F1 car faster.
If we look at the peak of F1 cars with peak of Champ cars
F1 car (2004): 950BHP, 605kg, 1560BHP/tonne
Champ car (2001): 950BHP, 727kg, 1306BHP/tonne
And if we compare pole times of these cars:
F1 - 1:12.275
Champ car - 1:18.959
It's pretty conclusive.
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