That Ford Focus which parks itself...

That Ford Focus which parks itself...

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calibrax

Original Poster:

4,788 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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...I was wondering if it could be used for the parallel parking in the driving test?

If not, why not? After all, other technology can be used which isn't available on all cars, such as power steering, hydraulic braking, etc... or is it a case of not using "driver activated" aids?

Just wondering.



(edited for typo)


Edited by calibrax on Saturday 30th April 17:12

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I think using that might be taking it a little too far. Cheating, really!

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I don't think power steering and servo braking remove the skill from driving, just make it easier. If you gave me a car with neither - and I have proof of this wink - I will still be able to drive it just the same as the car I took my test in, which had both.

If, however, you never even learn how to parallel park and let the car do it, then try and do it in a car without this system, you're fked. So no.

That's the logical part. The blindingly obvious part is: of course you can't, tit biggrin

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

157 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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If it backs into me do I sue the driver or Ford?

Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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No idea, but surely if ABS can be used for the emergency brake test then a case can be made for the parking test too. I believe things like this (parking systems) should be specifically excluded from the test. I don't have a problem with them keeping ABS, as the vast majority of cars now have it fitted.

Benbay001

5,795 posts

157 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Parking sensors are allowed, so i dont see why not.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

209 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Zad said:
No idea, but surely if ABS can be used for the emergency brake test then a case can be made for the parking test too. I believe things like this (parking systems) should be specifically excluded from the test. I don't have a problem with them keeping ABS, as the vast majority of cars now have it fitted.
The emergency braking in the test doesn't check the stopping distance of the car though. It checks the observation and reflexes of the driver.

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Benbay001 said:
Parking sensors are allowed, so i dont see why not.
Really?

Dyl

1,251 posts

210 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Caulkhead said:
If it backs into me do I sue the driver or Ford?
The driver. The car steers, but the driver still does the pedals, using the parking sensors/camera to know when to stop

chriscpritchard

284 posts

165 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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No you cannot use those features. This is covered in the DSA's internal guidance to examiners section 6.17

DSA DT1 said:
6.17 VEHICLE SELF-PARKING FEATURE
Car manufacturers are now producing vehicles with 'self-parking' features, which when activated automatically steer the vehicle into a parking bay or space by the kerb.

This technology is becoming more common and it is likely that some of these vehicles will eventually be presented for test.
If any vehicle fitted with a 'self-parking' feature is presented for test the test should be conducted in the normal way, however, vehicles fitted with these electronic devices must be capable of being switched off/de-activated when carrying out manoeuvres. Candidates must complete their manoeuvres manually. Vehicles with parking distance sensors are acceptable as this is merely a safety feature.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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dowahdiddyman

965 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Ah but can it get inbetween the white lines in supermarket car parks!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Don't know, but I have to say I'm impressed that you can cruise alongside parked cars and it picks a space for you that's big enough.

7mike

3,010 posts

193 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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hornetrider said:
Don't know, but I have to say I'm impressed that you can cruise alongside parked cars and it picks a space for you that's big enough.
But it doesn't remind the hard of thinking that the front wing swings out into the path of passing vehicles. At least at present these sorts are so scared of the prospect of parallel parking that they go elsewhere.
Watch out for a Ford Focus swinging out your way soonhehe

VeeFour

3,339 posts

162 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Toyota have been offering a similar system for years now - I think it was introduced with the last Prius.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I don't really see a difference between using auto-park for parking and using ABS for the emergency stop.

Prince Jefri

1,971 posts

169 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I like parking; it's fun.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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In the advert though the voice over says it "helps you into the tightest of spaces" thing is though the space in the advert is big enough to park a Routemaster. rolleyes

diablo676

20 posts

160 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Liquid Knight said:
In the advert though the voice over says it "helps you into the tightest of spaces" thing is though the space in the advert is big enough to park a Routemaster. rolleyes
I'm told that you get a guarantee that the parking will be so close to the kerb that the alloys get scraped every time. smile

Fastra

4,277 posts

209 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Prince Jefri said:
I like parking; it's fun.
+1

<blows ones own trumpet mode> I did a perfect parallel park this afternoon, indicate, pull past space, reverse, bit of arm twirling and BINGO, - Back of the NET!!! Pefect.


Doesn't always go as good as that, but when it does then it's a mighty fine feeling. "I am a driving GOD!" indeed.


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