997.2 Exhaust Upgrades - Analysis/Options

997.2 Exhaust Upgrades - Analysis/Options

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gerlewis

100 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Im still learning about these cars, but does this seem logical:

Try a gundo hack,
if you dont like it, its only cost a few hundred pounds, then buy the exhaust you fancied instead?


Get2Jaime

Original Poster:

210 posts

128 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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gerlewis said:
Im still learning about these cars, but does this seem logical:

Try a gundo hack,
if you dont like it, its only cost a few hundred pounds, then buy the exhaust you fancied instead?
I think if you owned one, you'd have a different outlook...

gerlewis

100 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Hopefully time will tell!


Ian_UK1

1,514 posts

194 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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gerlewis said:
Im still learning about these cars, but does this seem logical:

Try a gundo hack,
if you dont like it, its only cost a few hundred pounds, then buy the exhaust you fancied instead?
The only downside to this is that it is totally irreversible if you need/want to go back to standard. Back when the 997.2 was first launched, it wasn't an issue; good, second-hand, standard silencers frequently appeared on eBay (mostly off cars that had been upgraded to PSE) so it was cheap and easy to go back to 'stock' (as the Americans like to say). Several years on, those standard cans are a lot more rare.

Going the bypass route is totally, invisibly reversible. Swapping your standard silencers for Gert Carnewal's internally-modded side silencers is also a completely invisible mod, unless the dealer literally cuts them open. Both a better way to experiment IMHO.

systech

39 posts

204 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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My 997.2 S manual has had the PSE retrofitted but without the switch and associated vacuum actuator which means it is ON all the time. I think it sounds great and I doubt anyone would really want anything louder! However, I concede that the standard (switchable) PSE switches the loud setting off over the mid rev range (for noice regulations in Switzerland!) so this may account for the mellow sensation over that range. My suggestion is install the PSE without the switch / actuator or disconnect the actuator wiring. Simples

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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The Gundo Hack is a waste of time on the Gen 2 anyway.

Get2Jaime

Original Poster:

210 posts

128 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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hondansx said:
The Gundo Hack is a waste of time on the Gen 2 anyway.
Ian's view is true, it is permanent and less than elegant!

HondaNSX - Why is it a waste of time out of interest?

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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No real change in noise volume, unlike the Gen 1.

Given it is very easy to fit in comparison to changing the backbox, i think i'll order the Sharkwerks Centre Pipes - as Ian recommends - because they make the best case.

http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/porsche-modification...

Wonder if we could get a group buy going?

Edited by hondansx on Friday 8th August 10:53

Nero44

190 posts

146 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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If so, am definitely in

Get2Jaime

Original Poster:

210 posts

128 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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hondansx said:
No real change in noise volume, unlike the Gen 1.

Given it is very easy to fit in comparison to changing the backbox, i think i'll order the Sharkwerks Centre Pipes - as Ian recommends - because they make the best case.

http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/porsche-modification...

Wonder if we could get a group buy going?

Edited by hondansx on Friday 8th August 10:53
Yes, I would be interested also.....

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Cool. Well i've spoken to Sharkwerks and the UK distributor is Regal Automotive. It's not listed on their website so i'll give them a call and see what the minimum is for a group buy discount.

If anyone's a member of other forums, see if you can spread the news smile

Get2Jaime

Original Poster:

210 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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hondansx said:
Cool. Well i've spoken to Sharkwerks and the UK distributor is Regal Automotive. It's not listed on their website so i'll give them a call and see what the minimum is for a group buy discount.

If anyone's a member of other forums, see if you can spread the news smile
Great thanks, appreciated...

alexross

31 posts

176 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Just wanted to say a big thanks to you guys for the support over the years. We have sent a lot of parts to the UK over the years. I'm actually born and raised from London so I'm southern shandy drinking....

DasChin

609 posts

216 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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have you looked at some of the custom exhaust fabricators?

I am a big fan of Steve at Viper Exhausts in Billericay in Essex. he used to work at a few race team as well as Mercedes and used to make up all the full systems .

I needed some silencers and piping for my mk2 GT3 996 when I bought it as the previous owner had removed the OEM silencers. it was hideously noisy and very lumpy on tick over/low down. back pressure lost too. it was some cup car pipe that replaces the silencers.

looked like this:



had some grade 304 silencers and piping made up:









mounting all sorted and made from scratch:



finished:


I have to say once it was run in and coked up the GT3 sound and smell is back. far better back pressure too so it runs like it should and much better pick up on low revs.

the EML light does not come on any more as the car was overfuelling massively before.

noise wise its very acceptable on tick over, it can now get on track at around 98 DBs but it still has that sporty/throaty sound to it over the OEM GT3 exhaust.

the system has a lifetime warranty, I can pop back at any time for check ups and the price..it was about one third of some of the branded stuff! I know its not OEM but the car is 10 years old now and way past the warranty worry.

a lot of the stuff you can buy made up is ok but he does fix a lot of the aforementioned exhausts as they use a lower grade steel and not 2mm thick.

your call but just an option/thought for you.

Nick

Edited by DasChin on Sunday 10th August 07:04

gerlewis

100 posts

229 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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alexross said:
Just wanted to say a big thanks to you guys for the support over the years. We have sent a lot of parts to the UK over the years. I'm actually born and raised from London so I'm southern shandy drinking....
Hello Sharky, really enjoyed your Joe Rogan podcast episode!

LF11

47 posts

118 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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hondansx said:
Cool. Well i've spoken to Sharkwerks and the UK distributor is Regal Automotive. It's not listed on their website so i'll give them a call and see what the minimum is for a group buy discount.

If anyone's a member of other forums, see if you can spread the news smile
Please let us know, I'd also be interested.

Nero44

190 posts

146 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Emailed Alex and he indicated that there wasn't a discount to be had, so have ordered direct. Will keep you updated!

Not fitting it myself, I am having it sent to Paragon and they will do it for me

Looking forward to hearing the difference!

Get2Jaime

Original Poster:

210 posts

128 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Nero44 said:
Emailed Alex and he indicated that there wasn't a discount to be had, so have ordered direct. Will keep you updated!

Not fitting it myself, I am having it sent to Paragon and they will do it for me

Looking forward to hearing the difference!
Do you mind confirming how much you have paid for the pipe and for fitting via Paragon? Who have you ordered directly from?

Thanks

Nero44

190 posts

146 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Paid $795, which in current exchange rate is c. £470. Was about £100 to ship over.

Paragon are just charging by the hour so it will be somewhere between £200-400

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Great! Look forward to the feedback...

If it's a thumbs up it's this. Must say though, the Innotech full system (with manifolds) and decats is surprisingly good value. Still, £3k vs £500 for the Sharkwerks pipe is still a big difference!