991 GTS Must haves

991 GTS Must haves

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Shuks76

235 posts

149 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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Are people noticing that 991.1 GTS prices in the Porsche dealer network are starting to rise slightly? They did seem like dropping into the low £70k mark and now they range from £75k-85k.

PSB1

3,676 posts

103 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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Shuks76 said:
Are people noticing that 991.1 GTS prices in the Porsche dealer network are starting to rise slightly? They did seem like dropping into the low £70k mark and now they range from £75k-85k.
I can say from recent, first hand experience that they are unable to resist realistic offers. However much they dislike them.

horriblejon

3 posts

99 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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PSB1 said:
I can say from recent, first hand experience that they are unable to resist realistic offers. However much they dislike them.
Can i ask what percentage PSB1?

Looking to get a GTS December / January so could be helpful.

Thank you

PSB1

3,676 posts

103 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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horriblejon said:
PSB1 said:
I can say from recent, first hand experience that they are unable to resist realistic offers. However much they dislike them.
Can i ask what percentage PSB1?

Looking to get a GTS December / January so could be helpful.

Thank you
No worries. It was - to my mind - the best on the market at that point (Carmine, low miles, other stuff). Up for £84995, I started at 80k (they were not impressed), settled at 82k (including new rear tyres).

Not a stellar deal, but not bad considering discounts usually top out at £500. They also agreed to my valuation on my Cayman GTS (2k more than any other OPC offered). The trade in probably had an affect, but I think it was a fair deal over all.

horriblejon

3 posts

99 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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PSB1 said:
No worries. It was - to my mind - the best on the market at that point (Carmine, low miles, other stuff). Up for £84995, I started at 80k (they were not impressed), settled at 82k (including new rear tyres).

Not a stellar deal, but not bad considering discounts usually top out at £500. They also agreed to my valuation on my Cayman GTS (2k more than any other OPC offered). The trade in probably had an affect, but I think it was a fair deal over all.
OK thanks handy to now.

I also had a Cayman GTS but had to sell it 2 years ago to give the government some stamp duty but now looking at a 911 and enjoyed the GTS feel and performance.

Nuttcase

405 posts

119 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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First time I drove a PDK 991.2 I thought it was a bit bland, but I later had a drive in a S with a manual gearbox and I thought the combination of the turbo engine with more torque worked rather well. I found myself short shifting through the gears 2nd to 4th riding the torque wave and covering the Irish B roads very quickly and comfortably. A very different experience to revving the nuts of the Boxster 2.7.

Edited by lids.mod on Tuesday 22 October 09:16

Jakob911

82 posts

60 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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I try and try to like the new 992 rear wing but relative the 991.2 it’s too big, looks a bit like it’s ready to detach and a bit awkward overall.

PSB1

3,676 posts

103 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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horriblejon said:
PSB1 said:
No worries. It was - to my mind - the best on the market at that point (Carmine, low miles, other stuff). Up for £84995, I started at 80k (they were not impressed), settled at 82k (including new rear tyres).

Not a stellar deal, but not bad considering discounts usually top out at £500. They also agreed to my valuation on my Cayman GTS (2k more than any other OPC offered). The trade in probably had an affect, but I think it was a fair deal over all.
OK thanks handy to now.

I also had a Cayman GTS but had to sell it 2 years ago to give the government some stamp duty but now looking at a 911 and enjoyed the GTS feel and performance.
The CGTS is great, a car which is much more than the sums of its parts.

I was worried the 911 would suffer in comparison but it does not. The extra power, the sharpness of the turn-in, the feel of the steering (yes, even with the hated EPAS), the ride (wonderful, the balance between absorbing the inevitable bumps in our roads and just the right amount of stiffness), the sound and the fantastic crescendo of the NA engine. It's all been said before, but it's so true.

We're lucky to be around with cars such as these; in the medium term they'll be taxed off the road.

afzala

157 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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I have a full set of zunsport front grills in black (unboxed) for a GTS 991.1 if anyone is interested. Please PM me. Grab a bargain.

Nuttcase

405 posts

119 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Fokker said:
I’ve just bought another GTS. Graphite blue 2wd with RWS and GTS packs. Pdk this time. Just need an exhaust for it! Great cars and so useable. Makes most things feel slow.

Someone please buy my old white manual 991.2 at Nottingham. It’s been for sale for almost a year now.

8k miles, only options are buckets, smoking pack, Bose, heated seats and GTS alcantara pack. It was a great car, no sunroof too so proper drivers spec. I shouldn’t have sold it in hindsight. £86k and I did most of the miles.
I looked at this car and made a few comments in another post which for some odd reason has been half deleted by the forum mods. Not sure why because I didn't make any derogatory remarks about anyone or any dealer. All I said was that we could not agree on the price. It's going to be a struggle for 2 year old GTS that's priced at 10k less than a similarly powered 992, especially with over 100 992s for sale, many of them demonstrators with 10%+ off list price. Nice car though - I can appreciate why the original owner specced it like that.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

132 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Nuttcase said:
I looked at this car and made a few comments in another post which for some odd reason has been half deleted by the forum mods. Not sure why because I didn't make any derogatory remarks about anyone or any dealer. All I said was that we could not agree on the price. It's going to be a struggle for 2 year old GTS that's priced at 10k less than a similarly powered 992, especially with over 100 992s for sale, many of them demonstrators with 10%+ off list price. Nice car though - I can appreciate why the original owner specced it like that.
Market is super soft at the moment - I had a 991.2 GTS the cost £k121 that I’ve just given away for nothing after 14 months / 5700 miles - not doing that again !! frown

Mr981

62 posts

62 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Another Manual 991.1 GTS for sale out there.. is this the one that sold recently at JZM ?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...


AND7 F

57 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Looks like a nice one with good options but seems to be priced too high, will be interesting to see if it sells

Not sure about 4WD being the connoisseurs choice either, they are even rarer than the RWD equivalent though according to these DVLA figures which I found on another thread

C2 GTS (manual)
2014 5
2015 22
Total 27

C4 GTS (manual)
2014 5
2015 5
Total 10

The silver one at JZM was a C2 with buckets IIRC and that went for about £92k I think

The red one at 991V was also a C2, also had buckets and ceramics and that went for about £94k


PSB1

3,676 posts

103 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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AND7 F said:
Looks like a nice one with good options but seems to be priced too high, will be interesting to see if it sells

Not sure about 4WD being the connoisseurs choice either, they are even rarer than the RWD equivalent though according to these DVLA figures which I found on another thread

C2 GTS (manual)
2014 5
2015 22
Total 27

C4 GTS (manual)
2014 5
2015 5
Total 10

The silver one at JZM was a C2 with buckets IIRC and that went for about £92k I think

The red one at 991V was also a C2, also had buckets and ceramics and that went for about £94k
Good luck to the seller on that one - the pricing is, um, adventurous.

Cheib

23,110 posts

174 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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horriblejon said:
PSB1 said:
I can say from recent, first hand experience that they are unable to resist realistic offers. However much they dislike them.
Can i ask what percentage PSB1?

Looking to get a GTS December / January so could be helpful.

Thank you
The best time of year to buy a car from an OPC is end of Dec....it’s end of quarter and also end of year so they will look to do deals. Very hard to generalise what’s achievable with an OPC.....depends on so many factors...colour, spec, how long they have had it, if you’re a local customer (my OPC would rather sell cars to local customers because of servicing and also they’re much more likely to get the car back at some stage) etc, The single most important is how much it cost them though! Sounds daft but it’s true.

Cheib

23,110 posts

174 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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AND7 F said:
Not sure about 4WD being the connoisseurs choice either, they are even rarer than the RWD equivalent though according to these DVLA figures which I found on another thread
The connoisseurs choice assuming you want the best car to drive is a 2wd coupe....4wd, soft top, targa etc all have their places for some owners which is absolutely fine but they will all be a slight compromise if driving pleasure is your thing. I’m in the latter camp but if I was going to drive a 911 every day I would probably think about a 4wd version....or put some tyres on it that would work better in winter.

SHIFTY

885 posts

235 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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RSVP 911

Part Exchanged my 911.2 GTS cabriolet in August only 17 months old, retail price was in excess of £120K, 8,000 miles tried all avenues, other dealers, advertised on PH and the best deal I had was £86.5K (just above we buy any cars quote) some even as low as £80K .

Market seems flooded with 911.2 at the moment especially 4WD from the last of the 911.2, buyers can pick and choose.

Porsche Solihull have a similar spec 911.2 GTS cab to mine started at £102 and now down to £92 still for sale after 3 months.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

132 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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SHIFTY said:
RSVP 911

Part Exchanged my 911.2 GTS cabriolet in August only 17 months old, retail price was in excess of £120K, 8,000 miles tried all avenues, other dealers, advertised on PH and the best deal I had was £86.5K (just above we buy any cars quote) some even as low as £80K .

Market seems flooded with 911.2 at the moment especially 4WD from the last of the 911.2, buyers can pick and choose.

Porsche Solihull have a similar spec 911.2 GTS cab to mine started at £102 and now down to £92 still for sale after 3 months.
Yep - we can start a club !

I paid £k121, and it sold for £k88 ( inc fees) - took about 3 months.

It is without doubt the biggest financial f*** up that I’ve made car wise frown



getmecoat

horriblejon

3 posts

99 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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Cheib said:
The best time of year to buy a car from an OPC is end of Dec....it’s end of quarter and also end of year so they will look to do deals. Very hard to generalise what’s achievable with an OPC.....depends on so many factors...colour, spec, how long they have had it, if you’re a local customer (my OPC would rather sell cars to local customers because of servicing and also they’re much more likely to get the car back at some stage) etc, The single most important is how much it cost them though! Sounds daft but it’s true.
Thats what i was thinking Cheib, end of December would be the best time.

Just read the GT3 keep or sell thread and i suppose its a similar market.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

101 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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RSVP911 said:
Yep - we can start a club !! I paid £k121, it was and it sold for £k88 ( inc fees) - took about 3 months.

It is without doubt the biggest financial f*** up that I’ve made car wise frown



getmecoat
That is indeed a massive hit to take on what is a brilliant 911 and yours was a stunning spec..When i buy new 911s(excluding GT3,RS etc) i have a strict rule of limiting options to less than 10% of basic list price. With this in mind i sold my three month old new 992S back to my OPC with 900 miles for a loss of only £4.5K..Back in 2017 i sold my 991.2GTS PDK Coupe to my OPC with 1700 miles for a loss of £6.5K.
Breach this rule and spend too much on options results in only the next owner getting the benefit..I complete contrast i added £30K options to my recent GT3 and even more on my new RS..
I am actually surprised be how much the 991.2 values have dropped recently as i thought they were particularly good 911s.