Potentially looking for a 996 Turbo
Discussion
The 75k miler looks great, however I have found that anything over 65k creates a
mental shutdown with majority of buyers, when you factor in they want to add 10k to it,
it frightens them off as most people are investors rather than drivers. Porsche snobbery
with mileage, that will be that 80% again.....
mental shutdown with majority of buyers, when you factor in they want to add 10k to it,
it frightens them off as most people are investors rather than drivers. Porsche snobbery
with mileage, that will be that 80% again.....
Jibaro said:
Not tuning a 996 turbo is a crime though 
Agreed. I'd bought my as 'standard' but subsequently, with the help of Mike at Sports & Classic discovered it had been mapped, rather clumsily- a poorly executed EvomisIT map. The options were to flash ECU back to the latest OEM iteration of 'standard' or to remap properly.Since I did not want to disguise the fact the ECU had been reprogrammed to future potential buyers (possible but dishonest) and since Mike advised that mildly remapping would transform the drive for the better, I went with the latter, done by Wayne at Chipwizards. From subsequent conversations with specialists and dealers, I think I am right in saying his name can be added to the (very short) list of 'trusted' modifiers.
Herein also lies a lesson for the OP; the above is a very short version of the story of my car. The management summary is even shorter: PPI.
Even a dealer of the highest reputation would be neither surprised nor offended by an independent PPI. Avoid any dealer that tries to discourage it.
[quote=The Red Devil]
"as opposed to this 2 year crap"
Porsche decided that 2 year servicing was correct for cars after 2004 . Why service them more frequently especially if doing low miles ? Do you know better than Porsche ?
The market decides on premium and that includes gearbox type , options etc . What has performance got to do with value ? X50's trade for more than std ( yes I have an x50 but check the prices and they trade for more, possibly as there are fewer of them ) same with manual v auto . With 996 turbos I suspect people prefer std to mapped - tuned cars don't carry much of a premium compared to the sunk cost of the mod's .
And why pick 65k miles ? I wouldn't buy one with more than 41534 miles on it .
Whys does an S command a premium ? Compared with a well spec'd x50 , the only difference is the brakes and if you want to really use them better retro fit steel ones ...
You don't half talk some tosh Red Devil , but then I suspect you know that.
"as opposed to this 2 year crap"
Porsche decided that 2 year servicing was correct for cars after 2004 . Why service them more frequently especially if doing low miles ? Do you know better than Porsche ?
The market decides on premium and that includes gearbox type , options etc . What has performance got to do with value ? X50's trade for more than std ( yes I have an x50 but check the prices and they trade for more, possibly as there are fewer of them ) same with manual v auto . With 996 turbos I suspect people prefer std to mapped - tuned cars don't carry much of a premium compared to the sunk cost of the mod's .
And why pick 65k miles ? I wouldn't buy one with more than 41534 miles on it .
Whys does an S command a premium ? Compared with a well spec'd x50 , the only difference is the brakes and if you want to really use them better retro fit steel ones ...
You don't half talk some tosh Red Devil , but then I suspect you know that.
[quote=ds666]he Red Devil]
"as opposed to this 2 year crap"
Porsche decided that 2 year servicing was correct for cars after 2004 . Why service them more frequently especially if doing low miles ? Do you know better than Porsche ?
Listen, its a simple as this, if I turned up to see your poorly looked after car having dropped the oil on it
after a whole 24 months I would walk. Any chap worth his salt drops the oil on a high performance car every
year or every 6 months. Do I know better than Porsche? well maybe yes I do, one thing for sure, you know little,
tell me what the feck Porsche know sitting behind a desk all day pushing paper about compared to a guy who
spends his life with machines and crucially driving, preparing and fixing them? Its a well known fact that
oil builds up moisture levels quickly in our climate, and if you speak to any good Indy they will also concur.
Its also not just about the oil, a lot can happen in 2 years and the thought of not getting underneath and
prodding about regular is looking for trouble. I travel all over the country to look at cars
owned by private individuals who know nothing about preparation, maintenance, file and record keeping,
and driving them. And guess what, they all sound like you, quoting the schedules the read at the front of the service
book, you absolute bloody trumpet.
2 years, god, away and buy a Corsa and stick an x50 badge on it. Total muppetry.
On the other hand maybe you are one of these aspirational people who believes everything the dealer tells
them, or are too skint to invest in a simple 300 sovs every 12 months at OPC....
ETA
Play nicely now, or you'll lose your right to post.
"as opposed to this 2 year crap"
Porsche decided that 2 year servicing was correct for cars after 2004 . Why service them more frequently especially if doing low miles ? Do you know better than Porsche ?
Listen, its a simple as this, if I turned up to see your poorly looked after car having dropped the oil on it
after a whole 24 months I would walk. Any chap worth his salt drops the oil on a high performance car every
year or every 6 months. Do I know better than Porsche? well maybe yes I do, one thing for sure, you know little,
tell me what the feck Porsche know sitting behind a desk all day pushing paper about compared to a guy who
spends his life with machines and crucially driving, preparing and fixing them? Its a well known fact that
oil builds up moisture levels quickly in our climate, and if you speak to any good Indy they will also concur.
Its also not just about the oil, a lot can happen in 2 years and the thought of not getting underneath and
prodding about regular is looking for trouble. I travel all over the country to look at cars
owned by private individuals who know nothing about preparation, maintenance, file and record keeping,
and driving them. And guess what, they all sound like you, quoting the schedules the read at the front of the service
book, you absolute bloody trumpet.
2 years, god, away and buy a Corsa and stick an x50 badge on it. Total muppetry.
On the other hand maybe you are one of these aspirational people who believes everything the dealer tells
them, or are too skint to invest in a simple 300 sovs every 12 months at OPC....
ETA
Play nicely now, or you'll lose your right to post.
Edited by Big Al. on Wednesday 1st June 16:49
I went with the latter, done by Wayne at Chipwizards. From subsequent conversations with specialists and dealers, I think I am right in saying his name can be added to the (very short) list of 'trusted' modifiers.
I had a 6T mapped by Wayne, very good, but a good bit behind 9E, however it was a reliable tune offering up
consistent performance. The brigade that don't like them chipped, fit into several categories.
A. They are st drivers and will never ever manage to explore the depths of even the standard car.
B. Can't afford a proper tune, as it costs about 4kish, factoring in a Sachs 890nm clutch, diverter valves,
the panel filter and of course the tune itself, want an exhaust, well dig deeper.
C. Have read to much crap on here, and are terrified they wont be able to part with it, i.e an investment and
not for driving, back to the aspirational tossers
D. st drivers.
I had a 6T mapped by Wayne, very good, but a good bit behind 9E, however it was a reliable tune offering up
consistent performance. The brigade that don't like them chipped, fit into several categories.
A. They are s
t drivers and will never ever manage to explore the depths of even the standard car.B. Can't afford a proper tune, as it costs about 4kish, factoring in a Sachs 890nm clutch, diverter valves,
the panel filter and of course the tune itself, want an exhaust, well dig deeper.
C. Have read to much crap on here, and are terrified they wont be able to part with it, i.e an investment and
not for driving, back to the aspirational tossers
D. s
t drivers.
Slightly off the original topic, but appropriate to the last few conversations:
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/importance-of-clea...
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/importance-of-clea...
ds666 said:
Not enough of a muppet to ever give you businesss
Ah, however I choose my customers even more carefully than I choose my cars, if I see or hear anything I don't likeyou don't get to buy, not the first person I have told to forget it. Handle small amount of units, low overheads,
and I don't sit in a showroom hoping the phone rings, no hurry and no desperation, all at my own pace and the
aim is to have fun whilst making money. Living the dream...Punters are like a number 11 bus, another one along
soon.
Muppet
Helicopter123 said:
996 TT getting on a bit now and not any quicker than a Golf R unless modded. Of course, modding one takes away most of the investment potential. Nicely upgraded however, these are still proper quick, especially manuals!!
Wrong, I have a new Golf R, not even close to a standard TT, maybe one with a boost leak, different sport.What a lot of s
t spoken on here. Golf R 296 bhp, standard TT 420 bhpEGTE said:
Slightly off the original topic, but appropriate to the last few conversations:
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/importance-of-clea...
To quote page 178 of the owners manual:http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/importance-of-clea...
Oil consumption up to 1.5l /1000km (600 miles) is 'normal'.
The Mezger is not a production engine. It is using oil - I guess mostly through combustion- all the while. I check mine meticulously to maintain level and also record consumption rate.
If the engine burns oil it will likely have unburnt or overheated oil within the sump after a while. I have taken the decision to do interim oil changes myself - not difficult and plenty of how to videos on YouTube.
Jibaro said:
OP have you seen the 75k Seal Grey Manual (9E tuned with desirable upgrades) for sale on 911uk (£39k)??
This one?Interestingly if so it's near me in Slough so I should be able to pop along and have a look - also comes with a lot of warranty and guarantees which is never a bad thing
There is also this one but I'm not sure if the subtle modifications are a positive or a negative
For me I'll be driving it, so they might actually be +ves!
Appreciate the feedback BTW (and what does OP mean?!)
Helicopter123 said:
996 TT getting on a bit now and not any quicker than a Golf R unless modded. Of course, modding one takes away most of the investment potential. Nicely upgraded however, these are still proper quick, especially manuals!!
Standard car quicker than a golf r, stage one remap on a 996tt will destroy said car, monstrous midrange and no turbo lag whatsoever. On paper does not always explain it. There are NO downsides for a boost increase to 1.0 bar, this is exactly what Porsche itself did to gain the extra power for the 997 turbo. 
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