Mega miles GT3

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Dblue

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3,252 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Taken a deposit subject to inspection already, have another buyer and me in reserve too. Original clutch, original PCCBs,
Car has been used as a weekend and touring car with most of the mileage racked up travelling to France and back, autoroutes pretty much.
Absolute peach to be honest gutted to miss it

ChrisW.

6,210 posts

254 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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All of which proves how good Porsche engineering is on these GT cars ...

Yes I also thought it looked very very nice for the mileage ... even the seats look good !

isaldiri

18,411 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Dblue said:
Taken a deposit subject to inspection already, have another buyer and me in reserve too. Original clutch, original PCCBs,
Car has been used as a weekend and touring car with most of the mileage racked up travelling to France and back, autoroutes pretty much.
Absolute peach to be honest gutted to miss it
Always thought you'd be back in one pete! wink best of luck looking for one.

Mousem40

1,667 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Slippydiff said:
isaldiri said:
Without wanting to be overly pedantic, the PASM unit isn't a magride damper i thought like the GM one used by various manufacturers?
Not pedantic at all smile And you are completely right, a bit of digging on Google indicates the 997 GT3 PASM dampers aren't magnetorheological (so no fancy oils with iron filings in it) they're merely a standard damper with an electronically controlled valve to enable different damping rates (via differing oil flow through a bypass valve).
Explains why they're relatively "cheap", and should be rebuildable by Bilstein UK.
Every day's a school day read
Bilstein charge £80+Vat per corner for a full refurb with a before and after printout. Cheap as chips.

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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I imagine Chris will have put his bit on though (but knowing Chris of old, it probably won't have been much).
A basic 996 GT3 front or rear damper refurb at Bilstein UK used to be £65, start replacing damper rods and it came closer to £100 + vat. I imagine the PSS9's being adjustable would increase the labour time needed to strip and rebuild them, and probably increases the amount of parts that'd need replacing too. Throw in a several (10 ?) locking rings/spring seats and I'd imagine there'd be another £100 + vat. Add in Chris bit and you're probably not a million miles off the figures you've mentioned.

My guess is the 997 PASM dampers would cost £125 + vat per corner to refurb worst case scenario. Still "cheap" in the big scale of things.

Steve Rance

5,435 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Yep, thats relatively 'buttons' money. Based on that, I'll have mine refurbed and fit a DSC module for my 997 suspension. If it is set up how i expect it to be, it wil be a very good system. If it doesnt, i'll have it programed how i want it. I think that it has the capabilities to do to what i'd want of it. Has the potential to be a very good combination.

Lasitha

177 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Clear rev check? rolleyes doubt it.

(edit: not saying it's a bad car - looks good value to get into a GT3)

Edited by Lasitha on Tuesday 24th January 11:48

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Lasitha said:
Clear rev check? rolleyes doubt it.

(edit: not saying it's a bad car - looks good value to get into a GT3)
I suspect that most on here (and dealers/indys) will perceive RR 1 & 2 as being inconsequential.

Lasitha

177 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Fair enough smile

Mousem40

1,667 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Mousem40 said:
Slippydiff said:
isaldiri said:
Without wanting to be overly pedantic, the PASM unit isn't a magride damper i thought like the GM one used by various manufacturers?
Not pedantic at all smile And you are completely right, a bit of digging on Google indicates the 997 GT3 PASM dampers aren't magnetorheological (so no fancy oils with iron filings in it) they're merely a standard damper with an electronically controlled valve to enable different damping rates (via differing oil flow through a bypass valve).
Explains why they're relatively "cheap", and should be rebuildable by Bilstein UK.
Every day's a school day read
Bilstein charge £80+Vat per corner for a full refurb with a before and after printout. Cheap as chips.
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It is accurate, I took my car in 2 weeks ago and I've got the itemised bill from centre gravity in front of me. £80+ Vat per corner (997.1 PASM) but of course Chris will charge for removing them, transporting them, unseizing any collars if need be, corner weighting, etc etc etc. I was just stating how much Bilstein charge for refurbing the dampers.

What may also be of interest is I asked for all 4 dampers to be refurbed. The fronts needed it, the rears, even after 10 years (and they were the original unrefurbished items) were so close to original spec (~1NM off) that Bilstein said it was pointless didn't bother and only charged £26+VAT each for a calibration check and printouts.

Apparently, as opposed to the 996 GT3s the 997 GT3s have better bushes at the rear meaning the dampers don't take such a beating and therefore last much longer (whearas the 996 GT3s tend to sag after 30-40k or so)


Edited by Mousem40 on Tuesday 24th January 17:53

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Mousem40 said:
It is accurate, I took my car in 2 weeks ago and I've got the itemised bill from centre gravity in front of me. £80+ Vat per corner (997.1 PASM) but of course Chris will charge for removing them, transporting them, unseizing any collars if need be, corner weighting, etc etc etc. I was just stating how much Bilstein charge for refurbing the dampers.

What may also be of interest is I asked for all 4 dampers to be refurbed. The fronts needed it, the rears, even after 10 years (and they were the original unrefurbished items) were so close to original spec (~1NM off) that Bilstein said it was pointless didn't bother and only charged £26+VAT each for a calibration check and printouts.

Apparently, as opposed to the 996 GT3s the 997 GT3s have better bushes at the rear meaning the dampers don't take such a beating and therefore last much longer (whearas the 996 GT3s tend to sag after 30-40k or so)
The 996 bushings were revised some years ago (not sure if they now use 997 GT3 items), but the rear damper rod bush issues that caused the hard chroming on the damper rods to wear and flake off are now a thing of the past.

Were the fronts toast/leaking/knocking ?

Dblue

Original Poster:

3,252 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Lasitha said:
Clear rev check? rolleyes doubt it.

(edit: not saying it's a bad car - looks good value to get into a GT3)

Edited by Lasitha on Tuesday 24th January 11:48
I was assured its rev check came up clean as a whistle

Cunno

511 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Lasitha said:
Clear rev check? rolleyes doubt it.

(edit: not saying it's a bad car - looks good value to get into a GT3)

Edited by Lasitha on Tuesday 24th January 11:48
Do you know the car and seen a report, or is this a PH norm that any car which has been tracked or has high mileage must be f&@ked? Genuine question as I've seen the car and believe how well it looked considering the mileage..

Rogere

66 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Hi all
Yes, the GT3 was mine and so was the 996 with 180,000 miles. 10 years of ClubSports and c 320,000 miles. It was time for a change!
The 996 was the first Porsche I'd owned and I just got hooked on driving them.
The last blast up the A1 to Alexanders was sublime, sad but sublime.

Memories.
Just getting back into those cloth buckets at the end of a long day.
The howl at high revs, the thrill never diminished.
The ability to dawdle on crowded Motorways with complete indifference to the squabbling hordes. It was just as happy doodling around as it was doing more exciting things.
The ability to do exactly the opposite to dawdling!
Matt and his team at Fearnsport. Totally top bloke. Nothing was ever an issue.
Kids aged 10-70 just looking and admiring.
Those unbelievable PCCBs. Did anything ever look so amazing
Mega blast at night across Germany back to Holland. It still tingles thinking about it. Mulsanne and Porsche Curves (well one can but dream)

An extraordinary car (or should that be a pair of cars) that set a benchmark so high, I doubt I can repeat it.

But, the time did come to sell. The baton has to be passed on.

Alexanders have put me into a Jaguar XKR-S. Very different. Lets see. I'm 67 years young, but the heated seats are good on these chilly mornings.

Porshes you were both simply the best

Thanks for reading

Roger



braddo

10,399 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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CRA1G

6,500 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Rodger...I take my hat off too you..clap

And as per your profile about your ZMC... i'm the same but I can't part with mine...driving




Rogere

66 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Aah Cra1g...the ZMC. Now there's another story.
That was a simply fabulous car. Saw one the other day...Phoenix S54. What memories. Great ZMC Club. Do you remember the 50 odd of us at Donnington?

Roger

CRA1G

6,500 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Rogere said:
Aah Cra1g...the ZMC. Now there's another story.
That was a simply fabulous car. Saw one the other day...Phoenix S54. What memories. Great ZMC Club. Do you remember the 50 odd of us at Donnington?

Roger
Yes,but unfortunately not in person,lot's of pictures were on the z3mcoupe forum thoufh.. did you do a lot of miles in that..? S50 OR 54..?

Rogere

66 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Hi
It was a S54. Had it for about 4 years and racked up about 150,000+miles. Absolutely loved it, especially across the autoroutes before the draconian speed shutters came down on those wonderful deserted roads.

Happy, happy days

Roger

Really must get a life outside of a car seat!

CRA1G

6,500 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Rogere said:
Hi
It was a S54. Had it for about 4 years and racked up about 150,000+miles. Absolutely loved it, especially across the autoroutes before the draconian speed shutters came down on those wonderful deserted roads.

Happy, happy days

Roger

Really must get a life outside of a car seat!
Wow.. mine's a 1999 S50 done 60K..

I think you have a "good" life in the car seat..