Mega miles GT3

[Mousem40]

Mousem40 said:

It is accurate, I took my car in 2 weeks ago and I've got the itemised bill from centre gravity in front of me. £80+ Vat per corner (997.1 PASM) but of course Chris will charge for removing them, transporting them, unseizing any collars if need be, corner weighting, etc etc etc. I was just stating how much Bilstein charge for refurbing the dampers.

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The front offside damper was making a knocking sound. It turns out to be a common issue on PASM dampers as the D.U. Bush wears (usually front offside as that gets most force at clockwise tracks) causing ‘damper slap’ on the front left strut. It's basically a bearing that eventually gives, causing the strut to move about in place.

I thought while it was going in for that to have all the dampers refurbed and a full geo and corner weight. Nothing else was noted as needing to be replaced. Final bill under £2k (which included a few hundred of other bits and bobs I wanted doing) but would have been significantly less if I hadn't bothered having the rear dampers removed and replaced. And of course I wanted to have a full corner weighting done which is much more than just a simple geo.

If I wanted to be a skin flint I could have put the car on axle stands, removed the dampers, had them refurbed, put them back on and had a cheap geo done, all in for probably under £500.

[braddo]

Interesting stuff on the damper rebuilds.

Does anyone know whether a refurb is worthwhile or possible if the threads on the main damper unit are quite corroded? I'm wondering if that's the point when a full new damper is required.

[Pookster]

braddo said:

Interesting stuff on the damper rebuilds.

Does anyone know whether a refurb is worthwhile or possible if the threads on the main damper unit are quite corroded? I'm wondering if that's the point when a full new damper is required.

Mine are with Bilstein now and no you don't need to touch the spring collars, they can stay where they are all corroded if you want. I've taken all my collars off, cleaned up the threads and Bilstein are having the damper re-plated to look like new, then add new spring collars at the end. Hey presto new(ish) damper for half the price.

[Fokker]

Rogere said:

Hi all
Yes, the GT3 was mine and so was the 996 with 180,000 miles. 10 years of ClubSports and c 320,000 miles. It was time for a change!
The 996 was the first Porsche I'd owned and I just got hooked on driving them.
The last blast up the A1 to Alexanders was sublime, sad but sublime.

Memories.
Just getting back into those cloth buckets at the end of a long day.
The howl at high revs, the thrill never diminished.
The ability to dawdle on crowded Motorways with complete indifference to the squabbling hordes. It was just as happy doodling around as it was doing more exciting things.
The ability to do exactly the opposite to dawdling!
Matt and his team at Fearnsport. Totally top bloke. Nothing was ever an issue.
Kids aged 10-70 just looking and admiring.
Those unbelievable PCCBs. Did anything ever look so amazing
Mega blast at night across Germany back to Holland. It still tingles thinking about it. Mulsanne and Porsche Curves (well one can but dream)

An extraordinary car (or should that be a pair of cars) that set a benchmark so high, I doubt I can repeat it.

But, the time did come to sell. The baton has to be passed on.

Alexanders have put me into a Jaguar XKR-S. Very different. Lets see. I'm 67 years young, but the heated seats are good on these chilly mornings.

Porshes you were both simply the best

Thanks for reading

Roger

Superb Roger!

I'd be interested to know what parts you replaced in the time you had it?

[Davey S2]

If I'm able to clock up half as many miles in a GT3 when I'm in my 60s I will very, very happy.

[Lasitha]

Cunno said:

Do you know the car and seen a report, or is this a PH norm that any car which has been tracked or has high mileage must be f&@ked? Genuine question as I've seen the car and believe how well it looked considering the mileage..

Nope, not seen the car or seen a report, and I never said it was fked. From my experience its nigh on impossible to have no rev 1 or above in over 100k miles. A car which has been tracked doesn't need to be fked if it has some revs, in fact I wouldn't mind it at all. Also to add there is nothing wrong with rev 1, 2 etc, only the higher rev ranges. I would however question a car which did venture out on track (or even road driving) and hadn't had any rev 1 or 2.

From the poster above it appears to have a clear history of any rev ranges. I would have questioned it, that's all.

[Twinfan]

It sounds like that car may not have seen a track - it's been all over European roads to get that kind of mileage.

[v8ksn]

Lasitha said:

Nope, not seen the car or seen a report, and I never said it was fked. From my experience its nigh on impossible to have no rev 1 or above in over 100k miles. A car which has been tracked doesn't need to be fked if it has some revs, in fact I wouldn't mind it at all. Also to add there is nothing wrong with rev 1, 2 etc, only the higher rev ranges. I would however question a car which did venture out on track (or even road driving) and hadn't had any rev 1 or 2.

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

[Lasitha]

v8ksn said:

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

Why does everyone get to angry?

I had a 997.1GT3. I hit the limiter accidentally a few times - not on purpose. I've only written what I have, and now opening a can of worms here about the legend that is Porsche, because when I came to check the ECU for any revs, to my surprise it had none.

[996GT2]

v8ksn said:

Lasitha said:

Nope, not seen the car or seen a report, and I never said it was fked. From my experience its nigh on impossible to have no rev 1 or above in over 100k miles. A car which has been tracked doesn't need to be fked if it has some revs, in fact I wouldn't mind it at all. Also to add there is nothing wrong with rev 1, 2 etc, only the higher rev ranges. I would however question a car which did venture out on track (or even road driving) and hadn't had any rev 1 or 2.

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

Aren't GT3 over-revs set back a bit compared to the normal cars and turbos? I seem to remember that a hit on the rev limiter on a GT3 doesn't register a RR1, it's a few hundred rpm over that before RR1 starts. I'm sure I heard that, and it explains why lots of GT3s don't have any over-revs at all, I could be wrong.

GT2s and turbos without any RR1 and 2 activity are suspicious though as they log RR1 and 2 when the engine's not even on

[Lasitha]

996GT2 said:

v8ksn said:

Lasitha said:

Nope, not seen the car or seen a report, and I never said it was fked. From my experience its nigh on impossible to have no rev 1 or above in over 100k miles. A car which has been tracked doesn't need to be fked if it has some revs, in fact I wouldn't mind it at all. Also to add there is nothing wrong with rev 1, 2 etc, only the higher rev ranges. I would however question a car which did venture out on track (or even road driving) and hadn't had any rev 1 or 2.

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

Aren't GT3 over-revs set back a bit compared to the normal cars and turbos? I seem to remember that a hit on the rev limiter on a GT3 doesn't register a RR1, it's a few hundred rpm over that before RR1 starts. I'm sure I heard that, and it explains why lots of GT3s don't have any over-revs at all, I could be wrong.

GT2s and turbos without any RR1 and 2 activity are suspicious though as they log RR1 and 2 when the engine's not even on

Fair enough, I may have been mis-informed by the indy as they said it should definitely register a RR1 (when changing up - fully aware on a downshift is dangerous).

Edited to add: They conducted an investigation and apparently there are a batch of cars which don't register any RR. Make of that what you will, but that was what I was told. When I took the car in they thought the ECU had been tampered with - some research on their side showed some cars did this.

Edited by Lasitha on Wednesday 25th January 15:58

[v8ksn]

Lasitha said:

v8ksn said:

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

Why does everyone get to angry?

I had a 997.1GT3. I hit the limiter accidentally a few times - not on purpose. I've only written what I have, and now opening a can of worms here about the legend that is Porsche, because when I came to check the ECU for any revs, to my surprise it had none.

I got wound up because people on here state what a friend of a friend told them once down the pub as gospel! Or spout opinions as fact!

Round here we call that 'doing-a-Demon'

[Slippydiff]

v8ksn said:

I got wound up because people on here state what a friend of a friend told them once down the pub as gospel! Or spout opinions as fact!

Round here we call that 'doing-a-Demon'

Who ?

[Cunno]

Lasitha said:

996GT2 said:

v8ksn said:

Lasitha said:

Nope, not seen the car or seen a report, and I never said it was fked. From my experience its nigh on impossible to have no rev 1 or above in over 100k miles. A car which has been tracked doesn't need to be fked if it has some revs, in fact I wouldn't mind it at all. Also to add there is nothing wrong with rev 1, 2 etc, only the higher rev ranges. I would however question a car which did venture out on track (or even road driving) and hadn't had any rev 1 or 2.

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

Its more about what's implied by your words that gets people's back up. I can't remember the exact figure on the 997 cars to Register a RR1 but it's in the 9000rpm, so not uncommon for these cars to have no over revs. If you don't know, why make daft comment about some ones else's car.


Aren't GT3 over-revs set back a bit compared to the normal cars and turbos? I seem to remember that a hit on the rev limiter on a GT3 doesn't register a RR1, it's a few hundred rpm over that before RR1 starts. I'm sure I heard that, and it explains why lots of GT3s don't have any over-revs at all, I could be wrong.

GT2s and turbos without any RR1 and 2 activity are suspicious though as they log RR1 and 2 when the engine's not even on

Fair enough, I may have been mis-informed by the indy as they said it should definitely register a RR1 (when changing up - fully aware on a downshift is dangerous).

Edited to add: They conducted an investigation and apparently there are a batch of cars which don't register any RR. Make of that what you will, but that was what I was told. When I took the car in they thought the ECU had been tampered with - some research on their side showed some cars did this.

Edited by Lasitha on Wednesday 25th January 15:58

It's what's implied by your words which gets people's back up. Why speculate about someone's else's car which could cost them a sale when don't know or have any evidence to back up your words.

[Rogere]

Fokker said:

Superb Roger!

I'd be interested to know what parts you replaced in the time you had it?

Remarkably little!
Pair of rear wheel bearings
A battery
Air Con condenser
Top joints (but it was a long time ago)

Still on original pads and discs (PCCB...absolutely unmarked)
Clutch
Alternator etc etc

Pretty cheap to run!

[Rogere]

Davey S2 said:

If I'm able to clock up half as many miles in a GT3 when I'm in my 60s I will very, very happy.

Yes
Ive been a lucky boy. Worked hard and the GT3 as a daily driver was an indulgence. But just looking at it each morning in the garage was worth it. We were good mates.

Roger

[mike746]

did you still have porsche warranty on the car? only ask as I'm thinking of renewing my warranty next month and my car has just done 30,000

[g7jhp]

v8ksn said:

My car has ZERO over revs in all ranges yet it has been regularly spanked by myself...... does this mean its dodgy?

Some of us actually know how to drive spiritedly (but with mechanical sympathy) and don't change down the gears like we are on a hot lap qualifying session!!!

Only on PH do you get this UTTER ste

Yes and I'll take it off you hands to save you coming to any harm!

[IceBoy]

Rogere said:

Hi all
Yes, the GT3 was mine and so was the 996 with 180,000 miles. 10 years of ClubSports and c 320,000 miles. It was time for a change!
The 996 was the first Porsche I'd owned and I just got hooked on driving them.
The last blast up the A1 to Alexanders was sublime, sad but sublime.

Memories.
Just getting back into those cloth buckets at the end of a long day.
The howl at high revs, the thrill never diminished.
The ability to dawdle on crowded Motorways with complete indifference to the squabbling hordes. It was just as happy doodling around as it was doing more exciting things.
The ability to do exactly the opposite to dawdling!
Matt and his team at Fearnsport. Totally top bloke. Nothing was ever an issue.
Kids aged 10-70 just looking and admiring.
Those unbelievable PCCBs. Did anything ever look so amazing
Mega blast at night across Germany back to Holland. It still tingles thinking about it. Mulsanne and Porsche Curves (well one can but dream)

An extraordinary car (or should that be a pair of cars) that set a benchmark so high, I doubt I can repeat it.

But, the time did come to sell. The baton has to be passed on.

Alexanders have put me into a Jaguar XKR-S. Very different. Lets see. I'm 67 years young, but the heated seats are good on these chilly mornings.

Porshes you were both simply the best

Thanks for reading

Roger

WOW !

[Fokker]

Rogere said:

Remarkably little!
Pair of rear wheel bearings
A battery
Air Con condenser
Top joints (but it was a long time ago)

Still on original pads and discs (PCCB...absolutely unmarked)
Clutch
Alternator etc etc

Pretty cheap to run!

Says it all really does it. I'm sure you looked after it though Roger. Enjoy the Jag.