991.2 GT3 - Colours. Spec. Q+A. etc etc..
Discussion
My god! That touring package GT3 is gorgeous!
If I was lucky enough to order one.....GT Silver paint, PCCB's, Houndstooth bucket seats and interior in brown leather, Manual gearbox and touring package.
Order - Receive - Polish and Play with forever and do Euro tours till the end of time
If I was lucky enough to order one.....GT Silver paint, PCCB's, Houndstooth bucket seats and interior in brown leather, Manual gearbox and touring package.
Order - Receive - Polish and Play with forever and do Euro tours till the end of time
Was in Frankfurt to look over the touring on Sunday. Loved the exterior, quietly aggressive and back end IMO looks great. I think the interior is going to be more of an acquired taste. The fabric seats take some getting used to and would have preferred the option of Alcantara (whilst understanding it's the only other key area they could use to differentiate from regular GT3)
- Some other interesting points to note. Front washers are in chrome as well as window surrounds (assume black pack changes these also).
- No GT3 branding in rear carpets, which are plain
- Car was pre production as I recall, hence first demos / press cars I expect may come with PCCBs. Midnight blue apparently under consideration for launch colour (tho not on config)
- Euro PTS on Touring supposedly coming in Feb. Not sure how accurate that will turn out to be.
- Some other interesting points to note. Front washers are in chrome as well as window surrounds (assume black pack changes these also).
- No GT3 branding in rear carpets, which are plain
- Car was pre production as I recall, hence first demos / press cars I expect may come with PCCBs. Midnight blue apparently under consideration for launch colour (tho not on config)
- Euro PTS on Touring supposedly coming in Feb. Not sure how accurate that will turn out to be.
v8ksn said:
My god! That touring package GT3 is gorgeous!
If I was lucky enough to order one.....GT Silver paint, PCCB's, Houndstooth bucket seats and interior in brown leather, Manual gearbox and touring package.
Order - Receive - Polish and Play with forever and do Euro tours till the end of time
Only comes with black fabric inserts and black leather / leatherette unfortunately. Even on 18 way comforts.If I was lucky enough to order one.....GT Silver paint, PCCB's, Houndstooth bucket seats and interior in brown leather, Manual gearbox and touring package.
Order - Receive - Polish and Play with forever and do Euro tours till the end of time
Thank you guys for all the replies on the brakes...
Many of you talk about the pedal feel.
Is it about the initial byte?
Shorter in PCCBs and a bit longer in steels?
Another concern is the rear PCCBs wear because of the PVT which is actually eating my 981 rear pads and disc at an unexpected rate.
Very happy in that car with a steel setup and RSL1 Pagid pads, except for the rotors cracking after 20000 km and 3 trackdays (but those rotors are 1 piece so the steels on GT3 should be better in overheat conditions)
In Italy many more GT3s on steel than I see in UK.
Many of you talk about the pedal feel.
Is it about the initial byte?
Shorter in PCCBs and a bit longer in steels?
Another concern is the rear PCCBs wear because of the PVT which is actually eating my 981 rear pads and disc at an unexpected rate.
Very happy in that car with a steel setup and RSL1 Pagid pads, except for the rotors cracking after 20000 km and 3 trackdays (but those rotors are 1 piece so the steels on GT3 should be better in overheat conditions)
In Italy many more GT3s on steel than I see in UK.
Edited by Mr.Brick on Wednesday 20th September 07:17
Mr.Brick said:
Thank you guys for all the replies on the brakes...
Many of you talk about the pedal feel.
Is it about the initial byte?
Shorter in PCCBs and a bit longer in steels?
Another concern is the rear PCCBs wear because of the PVT which is actually eating my 981 rear pads and disc at an unexpected rate.
Very happy in that car with a steel setup and RSL1 Pagid pads, except for the rotors cracking after 20000 km and 3 trackdays (but those rotors are 1 piece so the steels on GT3 should be better in overheat conditions)
In Italy many more GT3s on steel than I see in UK.
Not driven a car with steels for a very long time, until the other week when drove a GTS.2 at PEC with then on. Thought they were great even on very very wet track. Then got back into my GT3 with CCBDs. Without any hesitation it has lots more peddle feel under hard braking. Many of you talk about the pedal feel.
Is it about the initial byte?
Shorter in PCCBs and a bit longer in steels?
Another concern is the rear PCCBs wear because of the PVT which is actually eating my 981 rear pads and disc at an unexpected rate.
Very happy in that car with a steel setup and RSL1 Pagid pads, except for the rotors cracking after 20000 km and 3 trackdays (but those rotors are 1 piece so the steels on GT3 should be better in overheat conditions)
In Italy many more GT3s on steel than I see in UK.
Edited by Mr.Brick on Wednesday 20th September 07:17
As for wear rate I have done the equivalent track distance of 200 Cup Races around Silverstone in my 91RS with CCBDs, still within tolerance. Cooling laps play a big part in this.
On the Turbo S when used on track wear rate about the same. But brake fluid changes are required much more often, due to the way in which the cooling works on the brakes.
APOLO1 said:
Not driven a car with steels for a very long time, until the other week when drove a GTS.2 at PEC with then on. Thought they were great even on very very wet track. Then got back into my GT3 with CCBDs. Without any hesitation it has lots more peddle feel under hard braking.
As for wear rate I have done the equivalent track distance of 200 Cup Races around Silverstone in my 91RS with CCBDs, still within tolerance. Cooling laps play a big part in this.
On the Turbo S when used on track wear rate about the same. But brake fluid changes are required much more often, due to the way in which the cooling works on the brakes.
Pretty much the same experience i had in the steel braked GT3 i drove at Silverstone on monday.In isolation the 380mm steel brakes are pretty awesome on track with regards to braking ability and not a hint of fade all afternoon although i'm not particularly hard on brakes.As for wear rate I have done the equivalent track distance of 200 Cup Races around Silverstone in my 91RS with CCBDs, still within tolerance. Cooling laps play a big part in this.
On the Turbo S when used on track wear rate about the same. But brake fluid changes are required much more often, due to the way in which the cooling works on the brakes.
Its only when you've experienced PCCBs for an extended period of hard driving it becomes apparent to some drivers the improved feel of the PCCBs when you need to brush some speed off without needing to stamp the pedal.The PCCBs require less pressure and rewards finesse imo although other drivers i've spoken to prefer steels with upgraded pads and fluid.
The steels on the GT3 are more than capable of handling the GT3's power and the extra £6.5k can be a deciding factor let alone the horrendous replacement costs on top.If i was using my GT3 primarily for track work i'd have gone for steels without hesitation and i would never pay A$22k if i lived in Australia even for road use...
Taffy66 said:
Pretty much the same experience i had in the steel braked GT3 i drove at Silverstone on monday.In isolation the 380mm steel brakes are pretty awesome on track with regards to braking ability and not a hint of fade all afternoon although i'm not particularly hard on brakes.
Its only when you've experienced PCCBs for an extended period of hard driving it becomes apparent to some drivers the improved feel of the PCCBs when you need to brush some speed off without needing to stamp the pedal.The PCCBs require less pressure and rewards finesse imo although other drivers i've spoken to prefer steels with upgraded pads and fluid.
The steels on the GT3 are more than capable of handling the GT3's power and the extra £6.5k can be a deciding factor let alone the horrendous replacement costs on top.If i was using my GT3 primarily for track work i'd have gone for steels without hesitation and i would never pay A$22k if i lived in Australia even for road use...
I'm at the PEC tomorrow with the GT3. Looking forward to it! Do they have 2 GT3's there with different specs or just the one?Its only when you've experienced PCCBs for an extended period of hard driving it becomes apparent to some drivers the improved feel of the PCCBs when you need to brush some speed off without needing to stamp the pedal.The PCCBs require less pressure and rewards finesse imo although other drivers i've spoken to prefer steels with upgraded pads and fluid.
The steels on the GT3 are more than capable of handling the GT3's power and the extra £6.5k can be a deciding factor let alone the horrendous replacement costs on top.If i was using my GT3 primarily for track work i'd have gone for steels without hesitation and i would never pay A$22k if i lived in Australia even for road use...
Fokker said:
I'm at the PEC tomorrow with the GT3. Looking forward to it! Do they have 2 GT3's there with different specs or just the one?
They have now two GT3.2s to play with...,the new one (800miles), sapphire, non-clubsport steel braked and the original Guards red clubsport with PCCBs..If you get the red one ask nicely to drive the red gen 1 as well to compare the two versions back to back to see the difference.Have a nice one and try not to vomit as apparently it happens on a regular basis...
Taffy66 said:
Fokker said:
I'm at the PEC tomorrow with the GT3. Looking forward to it! Do they have 2 GT3's there with different specs or just the one?
They have now two GT3.2s to play with...,the new one (800miles), sapphire, non-clubsport steel braked and the original Guards red clubsport with PCCBs..If you get the red one ask nicely to drive the red gen 1 as well to compare the two versions back to back to see the difference.Have a nice one and try not to vomit as apparently it happens on a regular basis...
Taffy66 said:
They have now two GT3.2s to play with...,the new one (800miles), sapphire, non-clubsport steel braked and the original Guards red clubsport with PCCBs..If you get the red one ask nicely to drive the red gen 1 as well to compare the two versions back to back to see the difference.
Have a nice one and try not to vomit as apparently it happens on a regular basis...
So its a case of dodging the tarmac pizza then?! I asked about a manual and they didn't know if or when they would be getting one.Have a nice one and try not to vomit as apparently it happens on a regular basis...
I guess one might well turn up when manuals start delivery but then would they run 3 GT3's?
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