what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

[ATM]

Paint looks nice in the You vid. Although its a bit of a ste blue. Is it flat - not metallic?

[jimmy p]

8k tops for a cat S (old cat C) doom blue car with that mileage. In the current climate think he will do well to get that tbh

[Fast Bug]

James76G said:

Thank you both. What price do you think would be right, assuming it had been repaired to a reasonable standard and was no better or worse mechanically than a similar vintage non Cat S example?

£8500?

It depends when things like suspension were last refreshed really. Also if it's been on a jig I'd probably walk away, they're not exactly rare cars and I personally would rather spend an extra couple of grand on something that's not had 2 sides replaced.

[deckster]

I find it hard to believe that damage was in any way economical to repair to an acceptable level of quality. Given that every body panel was damaged, I'd be very concerned that they've just straightened out the dents, chucked a bit of filler on, and given it a respray. God knows what's lurking under the bodywork.

10K is possibly a fair price for a completely straight car in the current climate. This is, IMO, at least double the price it should be.

[ATM]

Fast Bug said:

James76G said:

Thank you both. What price do you think would be right, assuming it had been repaired to a reasonable standard and was no better or worse mechanically than a similar vintage non Cat S example?

£8500?

It depends when things like suspension were last refreshed really. Also if it's been on a jig I'd probably walk away, they're not exactly rare cars and I personally would rather spend an extra couple of grand on something that's not had 2 sides replaced.

This

You can spend 10k on one of these cars getting it tip top mechanically without even going near a paint booth or opening up the engine.

[ATM]

deckster said:

I find it hard to believe that damage was in any way economical to repair to an acceptable level of quality. Given that every body panel was damaged, I'd be very concerned that they've just straightened out the dents, chucked a bit of filler on, and given it a respray. God knows what's lurking under the bodywork.

10K is possibly a fair price for a completely straight car in the current climate. This is, IMO, at least double the price it should be.

I'll disagree with this. The quote to repair my 981 from the insurance assessor was 17k minimum. I have the pdf print out from the assessor. Pics of the car damaged.

More info here including me fixing it up on the cheap if anyone interested.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...




edited to add ... the link

Edited by ATM on Tuesday 12th May 16:37

[shalmaneser]

deckster said:

I find it hard to believe that damage was in any way economical to repair to an acceptable level of quality. Given that every body panel was damaged, I'd be very concerned that they've just straightened out the dents, chucked a bit of filler on, and given it a respray. God knows what's lurking under the bodywork.

10K is possibly a fair price for a completely straight car in the current climate. This is, IMO, at least double the price it should be.

If it's the paint place selling it I could believe it. It'll need a load of new panels but they can be sourced pretty quickly and easily if you're not bothered about colour given it's getting a front end respray anyway.

That's not to say it doesn't warrant a very close inspection indeed - but that should always be the case with Cat cars.

I was thinking £8K if it's 100% underneath. Sports seats, manual, coupe 2wd, and I like the colour too. Rads and condensers look new in the damaged pic so good chance it's been cared for.

[Chris Stott]

If the car is mechanically tip top, and you're going to keep it for a while, I think it's worth a look at sub £10k.

You could easily eat the purchase price difference between that and a non Cat S (at 12-13k) that needed work.

If the body work has been done properly that's a big plus point - most cars will need some paint at c.20 years old, and it will have had replacement front wings and a PU at least.

I quite like the colour.

[GT6 Jonsey]

Reserve met, why mask the reg unless it’s hiding a dark past, worth a punt ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-996-Factory-Fit...

Edited by GT6 Jonsey on Tuesday 12th May 20:58

[skinny]

Personally I'd struggle to pay more than 8k for that cat s

[James76G]

Fast Bug said:

It depends when things like suspension were last refreshed really. Also if it's been on a jig I'd probably walk away, they're not exactly rare cars and I personally would rather spend an extra couple of grand on something that's not had 2 sides replaced.

I would be happy to spend a couple of extra grand, but finding an early cable throttle car in a nice spec (I like the colour and the ambers - appreciate not everybody does) is definitely a waiting came. Especially as I don't want black. That Cypriot import one at FGP would be perfect if it weren't for the Jade Green.

deckster said:

I find it hard to believe that damage was in any way economical to repair to an acceptable level of quality. Given that every body panel was damaged, I'd be very concerned that they've just straightened out the dents, chucked a bit of filler on, and given it a respray. God knows what's lurking under the bodywork.

10K is possibly a fair price for a completely straight car in the current climate. This is, IMO, at least double the price it should be.

I'd love to find a sub 100k miles straight one for £10k but as far as I can tell they don't exist. There seems to be lots of nice stuff in the £14 - £15k region though and that's perfectly fine budget wise for me, but it's beginning to get close to early 997 money.

I'm still tempted to put in an offer on the Cat S one though (as somebody suggested) if only to stop it from being bought by somebody intent on creating one of those dreadful 997 GT2 bodykitted monstrosities.

[ferrisbueller]

James76G said:

Fast Bug said:

It depends when things like suspension were last refreshed really. Also if it's been on a jig I'd probably walk away, they're not exactly rare cars and I personally would rather spend an extra couple of grand on something that's not had 2 sides replaced.

I would be happy to spend a couple of extra grand, but finding an early cable throttle car in a nice spec (I like the colour and the ambers - appreciate not everybody does) is definitely a waiting came. Especially as I don't want black. That Cypriot import one at FGP would be perfect if it weren't for the Jade Green.

deckster said:

I find it hard to believe that damage was in any way economical to repair to an acceptable level of quality. Given that every body panel was damaged, I'd be very concerned that they've just straightened out the dents, chucked a bit of filler on, and given it a respray. God knows what's lurking under the bodywork.

10K is possibly a fair price for a completely straight car in the current climate. This is, IMO, at least double the price it should be.

I'd love to find a sub 100k miles straight one for £10k but as far as I can tell they don't exist. There seems to be lots of nice stuff in the £14 - £15k region though and that's perfectly fine budget wise for me, but it's beginning to get close to early 997 money.

I'm still tempted to put in an offer on the Cat S one though (as somebody suggested) if only to stop it from being bought by somebody intent on creating one of those dreadful 997 GT2 bodykitted monstrosities.

There are cars out there. It's not a great situation to be in trying to find one right now given the lack of mobility and general uncertainty and it appears traders are still active and picking cars up, apparently exempt from lockdown limitations being applied to the general public. Keep in mind also that some traders are waiting for the same cars that you're waiting for. I think at least 2 cars I spoke to people about were quickly bought by traders who had them back on sale for a 25%+ uplift within two weeks.

It generally comes down to either being patient, looking at some ste and then finding the right car at the right price, or coughing the extra money to avoid that. Also remember that more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better and vice versa.

Also do your research with regards to traders. The 911UK forum is much more informative than PH due to their very different policies.

[roca1976]

Last summer I snapped up a really nice 996.2 C2 for £11k so def don't rush in, I still keep a close eye on recent ads and post what I find here but you have to be quick to beat Friend's Green to them, they picked up a GR 996.1 aero and the Jade ones which were advertised on Autotrader and Facebook.

I really wouldn't buy a CAT car, it is difficult enough trying to recoup what you spend on maintenance let alone starting off with a CAT car which has a smaller demand and circa 20% less value compared to a 'non-CAT' car (doesn't mean it hasn't been shunted in the past, not claimed and repaired!)

Just be a bit flexible, I really wanted an ambers car however the non-negotiable was a manual C2 Coupe without sunroof (nothing to do with structural rigidity - I just prefer the roof shape without a letterbox cut in) In the end due to limited budget I compromised on ambers and don't regret it one bit.

There is valuable driving time to be wasted sitting out for the perfect car to turn up...

[ATM]

ferrisbueller said:

James76G said:

Fast Bug said:

It depends when things like suspension were last refreshed really. Also if it's been on a jig I'd probably walk away, they're not exactly rare cars and I personally would rather spend an extra couple of grand on something that's not had 2 sides replaced.

I would be happy to spend a couple of extra grand, but finding an early cable throttle car in a nice spec (I like the colour and the ambers - appreciate not everybody does) is definitely a waiting came. Especially as I don't want black. That Cypriot import one at FGP would be perfect if it weren't for the Jade Green.

deckster said:

I find it hard to believe that damage was in any way economical to repair to an acceptable level of quality. Given that every body panel was damaged, I'd be very concerned that they've just straightened out the dents, chucked a bit of filler on, and given it a respray. God knows what's lurking under the bodywork.

10K is possibly a fair price for a completely straight car in the current climate. This is, IMO, at least double the price it should be.

I'd love to find a sub 100k miles straight one for £10k but as far as I can tell they don't exist. There seems to be lots of nice stuff in the £14 - £15k region though and that's perfectly fine budget wise for me, but it's beginning to get close to early 997 money.

I'm still tempted to put in an offer on the Cat S one though (as somebody suggested) if only to stop it from being bought by somebody intent on creating one of those dreadful 997 GT2 bodykitted monstrosities.

There are cars out there. It's not a great situation to be in trying to find one right now given the lack of mobility and general uncertainty and it appears traders are still active and picking cars up, apparently exempt from lockdown limitations being applied to the general public. Keep in mind also that some traders are waiting for the same cars that you're waiting for. I think at least 2 cars I spoke to people about were quickly bought by traders who had them back on sale for a 25%+ uplift within two weeks.

It generally comes down to either being patient, looking at some ste and then finding the right car at the right price, or coughing the extra money to avoid that. Also remember that more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better and vice versa.

Also do your research with regards to traders. The 911UK forum is much more informative than PH due to their very different policies.

I dont think these cars exist. A sub 100k early cable car is pretty rare. I've only ever seen a couple advertised and one was tip. The tip car looked that minty fresh I was considering buying and converting to manual but good sense prevailed.

My mate bought a 65k car last year and paid nearer to 20 grand. So if you think you can find one for £10k I think you're dreaming a bit. People are asking 10k for 50 - 60k 986 cars.

[roca1976]

i like this sounds well used but cared for. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1131710

[roca1976]

if you are handy reshell a cat car and create a hot rod in a cool PTS colour...

There was a cat car on ebay for about 6.5k last week

actually that has got me daydreaming again!

https://www.gumtree.com/p/car-replacement-parts/po...

[Fast Bug]

roca1976 said:

i like this sounds well used but cared for. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1131710

Ah that number plate is worth a grand much like mine is. I doubt t the seller would knock a grand off the price and keep the plate, the guy I bought mine off tur ed that offer down as well

[skinny]

roca1976 said:

i like this sounds well used but cared for. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1131710

Yeah looks like a good bet, well worn in

roca1976 said:

if you are handy reshell a cat car and create a hot rod in a cool PTS colour...

https://www.gumtree.com/p/car-replacement-parts/po...

With the garage space and a lift, I'd love a project like that. Hot rod 996 will be done at some point in my life

Edited by skinny on Thursday 14th May 09:26

[EarlOfHazard]

Anyone heard of the YT channrel 'That Nine Eleven Guy'? Interesting content...hasn't dampened my desire for a 996...

[rallyman1978]

Yeah that's Lee Sibley, Editor of Total 911 magazine

His insta @lee_sibbs has some decent content too and he does a decent podcast