what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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EGTE

996 posts

182 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Rob996 said:
EGTE said:
edh said:
I'm due new tyres soon - not sure you can get PS4's in 17?

I was thinking of Yoko 510's - am a big fan of Yokohama tyres
Yes you can (and I have). Enjoy ;-)

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Michelin/Pilot-S...
What size did you use for the rear?
255/40/17 PS2s......

Rob996

84 posts

102 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Thanks. thumbup

jonny996

2,612 posts

217 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Anyone on here own the lovely UK registered 996.1 cab that's parked up in Chamonix just know ? Hats off to you for touring in it

McSwerve II

311 posts

199 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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jonny996 said:
Anyone on here own the lovely UK registered 996.1 cab that's parked up in Chamonix just know ? Hats off to you for touring in it
I hope they hold up to a bit of a grand tour, as I'm taking my C2 coupe to the South of France (via route Napoleon) and back shortly.

Le Mans and back is the furthest I've been to date.

Considered taking something less old, but thought I'd regret not having taken it for the good bits.

porkey

630 posts

172 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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ForzaGilles

558 posts

224 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?

Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Provide them with links to the adds for comparable cars, ask them to come back with their own at the price they state is fair?

jonny996

2,612 posts

217 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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porkey said:
That is the first I have seen in a while that could tempt me away from the one I have tabs on

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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jonny996 said:
That is the first I have seen in a while that could tempt me away from the one I have tabs on
Looks a great buy....needs Ambers smile

jboy72

375 posts

181 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
Interesting - mine is a mk2 but similar everything else including mileage and agreed valuation is 20k via classic line.... then again, that is what I paid for it. I assume it's hard to argue against that...

jonny996

2,612 posts

217 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
I can see their point, these cars are climbing in value slightly but you are saying a 33% growth in value in 6 months, I don't think anyone on this forum would agree with those figures.
You got a great deal first time around so who's to say you couldn't get another great deal.
It will be interesting to see where the prices go come winter

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
Join PCGB and get a (free) valuation from them - insurers will accept that

ATM

18,272 posts

219 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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jonny996 said:
porkey said:
That is the first I have seen in a while that could tempt me away from the one I have tabs on
Another friends green porsche car.

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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McSwerve II said:
jonny996 said:
Anyone on here own the lovely UK registered 996.1 cab that's parked up in Chamonix just know ? Hats off to you for touring in it
I hope they hold up to a bit of a grand tour, as I'm taking my C2 coupe to the South of France (via route Napoleon) and back shortly.
Mine went for a 2500 miles trip in May/June, and got to as far as Norway.



Then last month another 2000 miles to Scotland and back. So yeah, you'll be fine. driving



Edited by BrotherMouzone on Tuesday 1st August 08:50

richthebike

1,733 posts

137 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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edh said:
ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
Join PCGB and get a (free) valuation from them - insurers will accept that
What caused the rebuild, if you don't mind me asking?

I'd say that 20k for a low miles C2 with a recent, full Hartech is fair.

ATM

18,272 posts

219 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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richthebike said:
edh said:
ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
Join PCGB and get a (free) valuation from them - insurers will accept that
What caused the rebuild, if you don't mind me asking?

I'd say that 20k for a low miles C2 with a recent, full Hartech is fair.
We all know what a full Hartech rebuild might cost but we also know you dont get the money back you spend on maintenance and repairs. I dont want to comment on what your car might be worth but if I bought a low mileage car for 15k and then found out it need an engine rebuild I'd be a little bit disappointed. Hopefully you keep the car for a while and get to enjoy it a lot.

richthebike

1,733 posts

137 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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ATM said:
richthebike said:
edh said:
ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
Join PCGB and get a (free) valuation from them - insurers will accept that
What caused the rebuild, if you don't mind me asking?

I'd say that 20k for a low miles C2 with a recent, full Hartech is fair.
We all know what a full Hartech rebuild might cost but we also know you dont get the money back you spend on maintenance and repairs. I dont want to comment on what your car might be worth but if I bought a low mileage car for 15k and then found out it need an engine rebuild I'd be a little bit disappointed. Hopefully you keep the car for a while and get to enjoy it a lot.
but we don't know why it's been done - maybe he just fancied a 3.7 in there!

Either way, I would pay 20 if the rest of the car is right, and it feels like that's market value (at the very least, my guess would be higher).

edc

9,234 posts

251 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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For most insurance companies 'market value' is typically not what you think it is but what the CAP guide says. If you want more you need a more specialist policy and and 'agreed value'. You will then need your value validated by somebody the insurance company recognise.

jonny996

2,612 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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jonny996 said:
ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
I can see their point, these cars are climbing in value slightly but you are saying a 33% growth in value in 6 months, I don't think anyone on this forum would agree with those figures.
You got a great deal first time around so who's to say you couldn't get another great deal.
It will be interesting to see where the prices go come winter
Apologies, I initially read it as purchased at £15K with full rebuild, I now understand it was £15k then you put it for rebuild, in that case I do agree if everything else is sorted then you are near your £20k

ForzaGilles

558 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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richthebike said:
edh said:
ForzaGilles said:
I bought my '99 C2 manual coupe with 56k miles on it in January for 15k. It's a very tidy car that's had lots of money spent in the last few years, not to mention a full Hartech rebuild last month. I've just tried to add an agreed value of 20k on the insurance policy, but they've come back and said the market value is 15k, which i what they'd pay out in at total loss situation. Looking at the current market, there's no way a like for like replacement would be 15k?
Join PCGB and get a (free) valuation from them - insurers will accept that
What caused the rebuild, if you don't mind me asking?

I'd say that 20k for a low miles C2 with a recent, full Hartech is fair.
The car went in to have a baffled sump fitted and they found metal fragments in the oil filter housing. It turned out to be one of the cam chain tensioners. The car had the IMS bearing replaced 5 years/10k miles ago, and we think there was some debris from the failed/failing previous bearing which was left in there. As the engine needed to come apart I thought it best to go for a full rebuild including new liners, upgraded IMS and bearing, crank bearings, refurbed heads, new water pump etc etc. The car will be a keeper smile As prices seem to be increasing a little, plus Hartech have a good reputation and are the go-to firm for M96/M97 rebuilds, I thought this would add a good 3-4k to the value of the car, but the insurance company seem to think not.

edh - Thanks, I might give that a go.