what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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tomtom

4,225 posts

230 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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tomtom said:
How are you getting on with ULEZ?

I submitted my exemption application to TfL and they promptly rejected it because it's not Euro 4. I wrote them a nice email in reply saying that the documentation I provided showed the car was well within Euro 4 spec, and that's what all the stuff on their website says matters, along with the original EU directive documentation for reference in case they didn't have it to hand, but they have not yet responded. That was 3 weeks ago now.
As if by magic... I've just received an email from TfL saying my application has been successful and my car is now registered as exempt. My TfL account online shows the car as 'Meets standard' for ULEZ.

So once you have the correct 0.035g/km NOx emissions declaration from Porsche you should be able to gain exemption.

Edited by tomtom on Monday 17th August 16:53

PGNSagaris

2,930 posts

166 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Interesting. What year is your 996? Sorry if I’ve missed it

PGNSagaris

2,930 posts

166 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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deckster said:
At worst, £17k is only a tad strong for a good car - but for sure it's a very reasonable basis for opening negotiations.
I note the price has come down to just under £16k now which to me means it can probably be had for closer to £15k which I would ordinarily jump at...

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10744753?c...

However...I’ve just had bills come in on the Caterham (engine rebuild) old Merc (engine and ‘box rebuild) and Cayenne (tyres, brakes, steering rack) that’ll add up to almost the purchase price of the 996 so I’m out. Feck sake. Bloody cars

tomtom

4,225 posts

230 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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PGNSagaris said:
Interesting. What year is your 996? Sorry if I’ve missed it
It’s a ‘98

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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PGNSagaris said:
deckster said:
At worst, £17k is only a tad strong for a good car - but for sure it's a very reasonable basis for opening negotiations.
I note the price has come down to just under £16k now which to me means it can probably be had for closer to £15k which I would ordinarily jump at...

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10744753?c...

However...I’ve just had bills come in on the Caterham (engine rebuild) old Merc (engine and ‘box rebuild) and Cayenne (tyres, brakes, steering rack) that’ll add up to almost the purchase price of the 996 so I’m out. Feck sake. Bloody cars
I think the chap parks at my station - see it most mornings and sounds rather lovely when he starts it up.

GR_TVR

714 posts

84 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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tomtom said:
As if by magic... I've just received an email from TfL saying my application has been successful and my car is now registered as exempt. My TfL account online shows the car as 'Meets standard' for ULEZ.

So once you have the correct 0.035g/km NOx emissions declaration from Porsche you should be able to gain exemption.

Edited by tomtom on Monday 17th August 16:53
Good work!
Sorry, you've probably already said but I can't find it - how did you go about getting the NOx declaration from Porsche?

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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tomtom said:
As if by magic... I've just received an email from TfL saying my application has been successful and my car is now registered as exempt. My TfL account online shows the car as 'Meets standard' for ULEZ.

So once you have the correct 0.035g/km NOx emissions declaration from Porsche you should be able to gain exemption.

Edited by tomtom on Monday 17th August 16:53
Now what should happen is that the powers that be should apply this exemption to all cars of this same model / engine, as they will all have the same emissions standards, rather than requiring every single owner of the same car to do the same. Nice to dream sometimes isn't it whistle

IceBoy

2,443 posts

221 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Hi All,

I've started to use the 996.1 C2 as my daily and am surprised prices have held up if not crept up a little!

Also, if I put the registration in to the TFL website it come out as needing to pay £12.50. I have a 2001 model, what do I need to do?

IceBoy

PS. Has anyone looked in to Showman's vehicle - 100% discount?

Edited by IceBoy on Tuesday 18th August 11:38

shalmaneser

5,931 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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IceBoy said:
Hi All,

I've started to use the 996.1 C2 as my daily and am surprised prices have held up if not crept up a little!

Also, if I put the registration in to the TFL website it come out as needing to pay £12.50. I have a 2001 model, what do I need to do?

IceBoy
Wrote an email to Porsche asking for the emissions certificate.

tomtom

4,225 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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skinny said:
Now what should happen is that the powers that be should apply this exemption to all cars of this same model / engine, as they will all have the same emissions standards, rather than requiring every single owner of the same car to do the same. Nice to dream sometimes isn't it whistle
That'd be nice wouldn't it..?

The process was thus:

  • Email Porsche GB (Customer.Assistance@porsche.co.uk) to request the CoC. Currently this is free but I wouldn't blame them for applying a charge if hundreds start requesting them; other manufacturers charge for a CoC. The CoC is sent from Germany so takes a couple of weeks.
  • Use the TfL form online to apply for an exemption (https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/compliance-registration/before-you-start)
  • You will need to upload a scan of your V5 and your CoC
In my case TfL rejected my initial application because none of the documentation states 'Euro 4 / IV' anywhere. Which is fair enough as it wasn't a requirement back then.

  • I wrote a follow-up email reply to the TfL rejection email explaining that I believed the car meets Euro 4 spec and had provided evidence to support this, which was seemingly automatically fed into the ticketing system. 3-4 weeks later got another email from TfL confirming my car is now registered as exempt.
TfL's website isn't the easiest to navigate and their communication systems can seem like a black hole sometimes but I've always managed to get the correct result in the end.

tomtom

4,225 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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IceBoy said:
PS. Has anyone looked in to Showman's vehicle - 100% discount?

Edited by IceBoy on Tuesday 18th August 11:38
I think you'd have a hard time convincing TfL that a 911 is a showman's vehicle smile

But any 996 should be compliant so you can gain full exemption, if my very early car is. No need for any dodges, the cars meet the standard.

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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barryrs said:
ATM said:
barryrs said:
ATM said:
Quite like the decals and was toying with the idea on my silver 996

But I’m also considering some Matt Bronze alloys so some may question my taste laugh
With a name like Barry we're all assuming your taste will be questionable.

Ok that JPS car I'd say the wheels need to be gold. Maybe even black and gold.
Should be with me next week boxedin
Just to bring this full circle.

Wheels fitted today and I’m really pleased with them (don’t worry I won’t be offended if you don’t agree laugh )

If I’m honest I would have preferred the fronts to be a touch narrower but I’m happy enough.


ATM

18,271 posts

219 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Not sure we can really judge the narrowness without a side on shot

Does that even make sense or am I an idiot?

M5 London

259 posts

101 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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M5 London said:
Hey Guys,

Any London guys or girls on here please?

Looking for some recommendations for a Porsche Specialist to have a look at my newly acquired car. Sort of want a post purchase inspection smile , to really see where I'm at and to plot a path going forwards with anything required. Yes I know I've done it all wrong.

98 C4 Coupe, Manual, Slate Grey metallic, on Black Leather (I think), and factory fitted 18" turbo twists. 77k miles and 3 previous keepers (last owner for over 11 years and who rather sadly passed away in May).

I haven't seen the car yet but the under bonnet sticker suggests interior code BL. I can't seem to find that Porsche designation online anywhere. Anyone know ?

I actually bought this car in auction. I was bidding on a nice Lapis Blue 996 Turbo Manual and got upto £31,500 and called it a day, went for £32,000 in the end..... 3 cars next was this C4 and I thought, oh what the heck, I'll buy this one. I am rational when it comes to most things in life, not so much with my cars though it seems smile

Thanks
So to add to and resolve my initial post. This purchase did not occur in the end.

I won the car in auction, well respected, so I thought, auction house, who deal primarily in classic cars.....

It was an impulse purchase I must admit, see my original post, but I can read quite well, and the listing clearly stated : fully stamped up Porsche Service Book. After winning it, they said it needed to go in for a fix for a CEL to be fixed, before I collected the car. They stated the CEL had popped up, in the auction literature on the day of the auction and that it would be resolved at the seller's cost. Great !

However they didn't state/edit, that the fully stamped up Porsche Service book, was now AWOL. So they were able to amend their listing to state there was now a CEL, but ignored the fact that there was no service book anymore and felt it was not worth updating their listing, advising bidders on the day??

I quite liked this car, which I had never seen before, but won, and said I would adjust my price. They weren't having any of it. Fair enough and good bye then.....i even got the car added onto my classic car fleet policy and also joined Porsche Club GB too.

So if anyone can point me to a nice 996 please do let me know. Early or late or even Turbo. (Manual coupes only) I'd also consider the same in 997 flavour, but note its outside of the realm of this thread.

Great thread by the way!





edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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M5 London said:
So if anyone can point me to a nice 996 please do let me know. Early or late or even Turbo. (Manual coupes only) I'd also consider the same in 997 flavour, but note its outside of the realm of this thread.

Great thread by the way!

Can't email you through here, but my 63k 3.4 C2 will be up for sale when I get round to drafting an ad..

tomtom

4,225 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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It wasn’t a purple C4 was it? I almost considered that one until the auction house told me it had no documentation...

M5 London

259 posts

101 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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tomtom said:
It wasn’t a purple C4 was it? I almost considered that one until the auction house told me it had no documentation...
Slate Grey C4 - 77K Miles

Fast Bug

11,667 posts

161 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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M5 London said:
Slate Grey C4 - 77K Miles
I think the guy that has bought it is on another forum I'm a member of

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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anonymous said:
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Yes, just time for a change - maybe a 987.2 cayman or a boxster to replace it (and the 944 track car)

M5 London

259 posts

101 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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edh said:
Can't email you through here, but my 63k 3.4 C2 will be up for sale when I get round to drafting an ad..
Sure and here you go : 996or997@gmail.com

Thanks