What gearbox oil?

What gearbox oil?

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Moto

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1,235 posts

253 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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I've just drained the gearbox oil from the Vixen - Ford 2000e (bullet) gearbox which I believe is not the standard one. Reading up on what to refill with, it seems it should be SAE80 gear oil. Then I started reading further about modern oils containing additives which damage brass, so don't use them. Some people are recommending ATF. Anyone able to offer some knowledge about what oil is best for older gearboxes - bearing in mind the car is being sprinted and hill climbed so does get some abuse.

Moto

Astacus

3,382 posts

234 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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I looked into this myself recently and was recommended this stuff

https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=45&amp...

They say that GL-4 is OK for brass synchros etc, but the GL-5 is not. Rather annoyingly though the small bottles are just too small for the bullet box so you need 2.

tomtrout

595 posts

163 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Hi Steve. What makes you believe that your 2000E box is non-standard for your car? I'm pretty confident that I still have the original box in my car which is a three rail 2000E box. Did the series 3 cars have a different gearbox?

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Moto said:
the gearbox oil from the Vixen - Ford 2000e (bullet) gearbox
not wishing to be pedantic but the "bullit" gearbox is a far rarer Beast than a "normal" 2000E 'box .


Back in the day it was EP80 for Ford gearbox's and EP90 for final drives (often referred to as "diffs") wink



of course oil technology, like everything else (apart from me), has moved on a bit since then!



Edited by phillpot on Friday 28th April 19:28

oliverb205

705 posts

226 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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The S2 and S3 have different boxes, reverse in the S2 is towards up and down, in an S3 it is away and up ( or is it down?).

Oliver.

Moto

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1,235 posts

253 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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GL4 is a recommended option by some as being friendlier for brass. Some are mineral & some synthetic (or semi). I'm thinking mineral is probably the safe option ???

The 'bullet' is strictly speaking the 2000e gearbox but fitted with a set of close ratio cogs. .

Andy / Oli, it was a previous owner who told me he had put a 2000e box in during the 80's when the engine was modified. He told me it was a stronger box than the standard one he took out. I've read that the 2000e box was used in sportier fords such as the Mexico instead of (I think) what they call a type 3. I'm guessing that may have been the original. The box I have has reverse at bottom right.

Moto

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Found this quite interesting on the gearbox derivatives.

http://performanceclassiccarparts.co.uk/ford-gearb...

Can recommend Millers Oils Pistoneeze Classic Gear Oil EP 80w-90 GL4