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Off to Greece on Friday.
Want to use one of these new fangled smart phone thingies as a Sat nav. Bought the phone, bought a SIM, have some data. All good.
So can I use the data allowance in Greece (EE) and does my 8gb in Greece = 8gb in the UK.
EE should be called Bloody useless, or maybe I should be called thick as a plank. Not sure.
Anyone have any experience / comment knowledge, or just join in for a general piss take if you so desire
Want to use one of these new fangled smart phone thingies as a Sat nav. Bought the phone, bought a SIM, have some data. All good.
So can I use the data allowance in Greece (EE) and does my 8gb in Greece = 8gb in the UK.
EE should be called Bloody useless, or maybe I should be called thick as a plank. Not sure.
Anyone have any experience / comment knowledge, or just join in for a general piss take if you so desire
bearman68 said:
Off to Greece on Friday.
So can I use the data allowance in Greece (EE) and does my 8gb in Greece = 8gb in the UK.
Yes. Since mid June when the EU ban on roaming fees came in to force (coined "roam like at home"), all networks can only charge you what you would pay at home when you are roaming within the EU.So can I use the data allowance in Greece (EE) and does my 8gb in Greece = 8gb in the UK.
If you have an inclusive monthly data allowance (I.e. 8GB) then you'll be able to use that in Greece just as you would at home.
Make sure you read the small print though as some networks impose limits or additional charges if you go over 6GB, or if you wifi tether your phone to another device for instance. Doesn't sound like any of this will be a problem for you though if just using it for sat nav and normal use.
Also, not relevant to the OP, but watch out if you go to places like the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands, San Marino, etc... some networks don't include these destinations as part of the EU-wide roam like at home scheme and so you will be charged at rest-of-world rates..!
With regards to the data, and seeing as you've just bought the phone / SIM, make sure you have the data roaming option turned on - this will be within the settings on the phone. There may also be an additional data roaming setting within your EE account - I had this with my Vodafone account and didn't realise this.
In terms of maps/sat nav, I've used Google maps abroad without any issues and think it is excellent. This is how you can set it up:
- Download the Google Maps app onto your phone
- Fire up the App, and within the settings there should be an option called 'Offline Areas'. This is where you download your maps
- Select this option, and you can select an area to download, which will remain on your phone for 28 days and then get automatically deleted. You can download multiple areas if need be.
- The phone will then use its built in GPS to position yourself over the map
- I *think* that if you do this, then it will only use data for traffic updates
Hope this helps
In terms of maps/sat nav, I've used Google maps abroad without any issues and think it is excellent. This is how you can set it up:
- Download the Google Maps app onto your phone
- Fire up the App, and within the settings there should be an option called 'Offline Areas'. This is where you download your maps
- Select this option, and you can select an area to download, which will remain on your phone for 28 days and then get automatically deleted. You can download multiple areas if need be.
- The phone will then use its built in GPS to position yourself over the map
- I *think* that if you do this, then it will only use data for traffic updates
Hope this helps
(most of the time)https://copilotgps.com is good and allows you to download one map for free.
EE are good at warnings etc when you roam abroad, although that is not such an issue now.
EE are good at warnings etc when you roam abroad, although that is not such an issue now.
djsmith74 said:
In terms of maps/sat nav, I've used Google maps abroad without any issues and think it is excellent. This is how you can set it up:
- Download the Google Maps app onto your phone
- Fire up the App, and within the settings there should be an option called 'Offline Areas'. This is where you download your maps
- Select this option, and you can select an area to download, which will remain on your phone for 28 days and then get automatically deleted. You can download multiple areas if need be.
- The phone will then use its built in GPS to position yourself over the map
- I *think* that if you do this, then it will only use data for traffic updates
Hope this helps
This.- Download the Google Maps app onto your phone
- Fire up the App, and within the settings there should be an option called 'Offline Areas'. This is where you download your maps
- Select this option, and you can select an area to download, which will remain on your phone for 28 days and then get automatically deleted. You can download multiple areas if need be.
- The phone will then use its built in GPS to position yourself over the map
- I *think* that if you do this, then it will only use data for traffic updates
Hope this helps
Did this for both Sicily and Sardinia last year, worked perfectly.
Just to ensure the location I wanted was there I would something do a search for it whilst on wifi first, and then it would be saved within recent searcehs too.
ccr32 said:
Make sure you read the small print though as some networks impose limits or additional charges if you go over 6GB, or if you wifi tether your phone to another device for instance. Doesn't sound like any of this will be a problem for you though if just using it for sat nav and normal use.
How would they know how the data is used?Anyway... as said, no EU roaming charges apply, you could use your data... as long as both the UK and Greece are in the EU that is.
ZesPak said:
How would they know how the data is used?
Its fairly simple to detect if tethering is happening. For a start the tethered device will try to contact servers which the mobile device wouldn't (for example the microsoft update server). Other ways include looking for differing TTL (time to live) values in the network traffic - if a single device is using the connection all traffic will have the same TTL value, if multiple devices are using the connection you would normally see differing TTL values from each device. Reading multiple TTL values on a single connection would indicate tethering. There are other ways too, but these would be the most common.Penelope Stopit said:
Crete is a beautiful place to visit and can be fun without a map
Where abouts in Crete?
Staying in old Hersonnisos. Feel free to fire over a few recommendations for places to visit. I've been before when I was 25, young and fit, and did a fair bit of walking in the hills, plus Knossos. But I'm going with the family this time, so beaches, gorges, waterparks and the like are all fair game.Where abouts in Crete?
Not really keen on overcrowded commercial beeches, and would prefer a walk (up to an 90 minutes) and a quieter beach.
alorotom said:
With waze you don't download any local maps but data usage is really minimal and won't make even a small dent in 8gb
It's the same maps as google maps (google owns waze) but has better crowd sourced traffic info
Apologies for the thread hijack, but I'm curious about this. If Waze doesn't download maps, and the data usage is minimal, then that suggests that the maps themselves are not that big in file size as they are pretty simple graphically (unless you use it in satellite mode I guess). So if you use Waze on a daily basis, and it is 'drawing' the maps as you're driving along then you shouldn't be seeing any significant dents in your data allowance?It's the same maps as google maps (google owns waze) but has better crowd sourced traffic info
bearman68 said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Crete is a beautiful place to visit and can be fun without a map
Where abouts in Crete?
Staying in old Hersonnisos. Feel free to fire over a few recommendations for places to visit. I've been before when I was 25, young and fit, and did a fair bit of walking in the hills, plus Knossos. But I'm going with the family this time, so beaches, gorges, waterparks and the like are all fair game.Where abouts in Crete?
Not really keen on overcrowded commercial beeches, and would prefer a walk (up to an 90 minutes) and a quieter beach.
I hope you have a very good holiday I am sure you will, Greece and the Greeks are the same as ever even though things are tight, nice food, chilled beers and swimming at beautiful beaches
Have fun and do get lost up a mountain for a short while, have a safe journey and welcome to Greece in advance
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