Attack of the Fuddies & Duddies

Attack of the Fuddies & Duddies

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Steve Bass

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10,192 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Jeezaaaas, it's happened.

Pass me my pipe, slippers and beardy grooming kit, I've joined the ranks of the slightly aged, wee smelling Beemer Boxer loving populace.

I've been umming and arghing over a bike for here in Saigon and I can't seem to get away from the Beemer.
This one to be exact....



For cutting around the city and the odd jaunt further afield It just seems the ideal bike. The GS is too big & unwieldy for town. Really not fancying a Ducati 950 or 1200 Multistrada. Same as the GS. Big bike for the town.
The smaller Ducatis I'm not so keen on and KTM aren't well supported here.
There's Kawasaki Versys 1000 but it's VERY close in price to the R1200R after BMW discount.
And there's the discount. BMW are offering 15% off some of their bikes with lower specs. Their base bike has sat nav prep, ESA 2 and so on, seems to be missing the QS pro and keyless go.
But for a significant saving, I'm not sure i'm that bothered......

Seems old might be the new black biggrin


mak

1,436 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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You might wont to import some doilies unless there readily available over there, don't forget the all important old peoples nostalgic smell that can easily be duplicated with some stale piss biggrin . The bike sounds like its perfect for over there thumbup

Unbusy

934 posts

97 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Just wondering if you have ridden a boxer before Steve? A LOT different to your usual ride.
I have a couple and like them. Folk say that an hour isn't enough to appreciate it, more like half a day.
I like the low down torque so end up short shifting although the top end is punchy enough of you need it. Just nothing like a Ducati!
I'm interested in what you think of it.

Steve Bass

Original Poster:

10,192 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Unbusy said:
Just wondering if you have ridden a boxer before Steve? A LOT different to your usual ride.
I have a couple and like them. Folk say that an hour isn't enough to appreciate it, more like half a day.
I like the low down torque so end up short shifting although the top end is punchy enough of you need it. Just nothing like a Ducati!
I'm interested in what you think of it.
I've ridden an older (2007) GS which left me totally underwhelmed. But it was at high altitude and a bit of a high mileage adventure rental shonker. My lasting impressions were the ridiculous torque reaction when you revved it when the bike would lurch to one side and the amazing lack of go. It went but if you asked it for anything else above 140kph it seemed to have no answer. And then there was the gearbox. It defined the term "clunky"
Finally I really aren't a great fan of the telelever front end.
However, a friend of mine has just moved from a RnineT onto a new GS Rallye (yes he's a proper tart) and reckons the engine and gearboxes are like night and day. And now it's dropped the telelever front end it's even more attractive biggrin
Another little sweetener is that the dealer is less than a kilometre away from my house and it's a proper Motorrad place not a grey importer.
And for similar money it's vying with the KTM 1050 Or the multistrada 950. With the little & kaboodle this bike has like esa and such its the better bike i think than the others.
So next Saturday morning I'm out on a fully specced demo and I'll see if I can take it for more than a spin around the block. Probably even get SWMBO on the back for the judges final decision.
And I'm really liking the White with blue frame.


Loyly

17,995 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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What didn't you like about the telelever system?

Steve Bass

Original Poster:

10,192 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Loyly said:
What didn't you like about the telelever system?
This is in no way a snotty comment but I'm really funny about the front end feeling on a bike. Not too bothered about what the back end gets up to ( within reason) but if I can't gel with the front end I'm not a happy bunny
The Telelever just felt numb to me. Just couldn't gauge what the front was up to and that wrecks my confidence.
Sounds silly but true story

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Steve Bass said:
Jeezaaaas, it's happened.

Pass me my pipe, slippers and beardy grooming kit, I've joined the ranks of the slightly aged, wee smelling Beemer Boxer loving populace.

I've been umming and arghing over a bike for here in Saigon and I can't seem to get away from the Beemer.
This one to be exact....



For cutting around the city and the odd jaunt further afield It just seems the ideal bike. The GS is too big & unwieldy for town. Really not fancying a Ducati 950 or 1200 Multistrada. Same as the GS. Big bike for the town.
The smaller Ducatis I'm not so keen on and KTM aren't well supported here.
There's Kawasaki Versys 1000 but it's VERY close in price to the R1200R after BMW discount.
And there's the discount. BMW are offering 15% off some of their bikes with lower specs. Their base bike has sat nav prep, ESA 2 and so on, seems to be missing the QS pro and keyless go.
But for a significant saving, I'm not sure i'm that bothered......

Seems old might be the new black biggrin
It's a great bike for dawdling and burning pesky 110cc Airblades and Super Dreams off the line... but you're brave to run that in Saigon!
What size are your slippers? I've got a whole bunch of them smile

Steve Bass

Original Poster:

10,192 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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spareparts said:
Steve Bass said:
Jeezaaaas, it's happened.

Pass me my pipe, slippers and beardy grooming kit, I've joined the ranks of the slightly aged, wee smelling Beemer Boxer loving populace.

I've been umming and arghing over a bike for here in Saigon and I can't seem to get away from the Beemer.
This one to be exact....



For cutting around the city and the odd jaunt further afield It just seems the ideal bike. The GS is too big & unwieldy for town. Really not fancying a Ducati 950 or 1200 Multistrada. Same as the GS. Big bike for the town.
The smaller Ducatis I'm not so keen on and KTM aren't well supported here.
There's Kawasaki Versys 1000 but it's VERY close in price to the R1200R after BMW discount.
And there's the discount. BMW are offering 15% off some of their bikes with lower specs. Their base bike has sat nav prep, ESA 2 and so on, seems to be missing the QS pro and keyless go.
But for a significant saving, I'm not sure i'm that bothered......

Seems old might be the new black biggrin
You're brave to run that in Saigon!
What size are your slippers? I've got a whole bunch of them smile
Size 9 and I'm partial to a nice tartan if you can wink
As for the Airblades, they're 125 now but not a problem. The real terrorists are the 150cc Yam Exciters or Honda Winners. Now those things hustle up to 100 eek

Edited by Steve Bass on Sunday 23 July 08:44

Unbusy

934 posts

97 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Oi! I like my telelever and my clunky gearboxes ... a bit ... sometimes ...
With the dealer on your doorstep then at least you have backup.
New country, new bike, sounds like a great opportunity to try out fresh experiences.
Gotta love life eh?

Steve Bass

Original Poster:

10,192 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Unbusy said:
Oi! I like my telelever and my clunky gearboxes ... a bit ... sometimes ...
With the dealer on your doorstep then at least you have backup.
New country, new bike, sounds like a great opportunity to try out fresh experiences.
Gotta love life eh?
Indeed biggrin

Seeing as a sportsbike is a waste of time here (in truth so is this !!) and I refuse to ride something without a clutch I'm thinking this is the best therapy.
But I've always had a love for Muscle Bikes like the GSX 1400 and ZRX and this kinda reminds me of them.

Plus we're planning some trips up to Ha Noi and Hue as well as long weekends over to Vung Tau or Phu Quoc so it'll be bob on with the panniers and dry bag on the rear rack. SW Motec gubbins are made here so get a new tank ring for my bag and job jobbed.

Preferred colour scheme



Anyone fancy a CB400 Bol D'or?? biggrin

Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Are you suffering from heatstroke?

Mad Jock

1,272 posts

262 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Steve Bass said:

However, a friend of mine has just moved from a RnineT onto a new GS Rallye (yes he's a proper tart) and reckons the engine and gearboxes are like night and day. And now it's dropped the telelever front end it's even more attractive biggrin
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I'm not sure which bike you were thinking of, but the GS Rallye has definitely NOT dropped the Telelever front suspension. Perhaps you were looking at the Touratech GS Rambler, which is not available to us normal oiks. In the 1200 LC flat twin models Only the R1200R and the R1200RS have conventional front forks. The GS variants and the RT variants all retain the Telelever front.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but at least you'll be happy with the R1200R.

Chipchap

2,587 posts

197 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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These were taken in Spain in Dec on a trip with Spare parts. Me on R1200RS and him on R1200GS

Edited by Chipchap on Monday 24th July 11:00

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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R1200 LC is just a great great motor. Loads of drive, and far more performance than the numbers suggest.

Nickellese

65 posts

192 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Mad Jock said:
I'm not sure which bike you were thinking of, but the GS Rallye has definitely NOT dropped the Telelever front suspension. Perhaps you were looking at the Touratech GS Rambler, which is not available to us normal oiks. In the 1200 LC flat twin models Only the R1200R and the R1200RS have conventional front forks. The GS variants and the RT variants all retain the Telelever front.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but at least you'll be happy with the R1200R.
I think he probably was referring to the R nine T Urban GS

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bmw+r+nine+t+urb...

Steve Bass

Original Poster:

10,192 posts

233 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Mad Jock said:
Steve Bass said:

However, a friend of mine has just moved from a RnineT onto a new GS Rallye (yes he's a proper tart) and reckons the engine and gearboxes are like night and day. And now it's dropped the telelever front end it's even more attractive biggrin
.
I'm not sure which bike you were thinking of, but the GS Rallye has definitely NOT dropped the Telelever front suspension. Perhaps you were looking at the Touratech GS Rambler, which is not available to us normal oiks. In the 1200 LC flat twin models Only the R1200R and the R1200RS have conventional front forks. The GS variants and the RT variants all retain the Telelever front.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but at least you'll be happy with the R1200R.
Sorry, maybe not clear.. The R1200R has dropped the Telelever front end.

Steve Bass

Original Poster:

10,192 posts

233 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Fleegle said:
Are you suffering from heatstroke?
No.. maybe a touch of the Dengue Fever though.. biggrin

Trouble is T, there's slim pickings choice wise here from official dealers. And not really fancying a Ducati so I'm out of options really smile

Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Steve Bass said:
And not really fancying a Ducati so I'm out of options really smile
Good that you've seen the light