Anyone for ‘T’

Anyone for ‘T’

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7184c

415 posts

91 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Declined my offered T slot for May.

I reckon it’s circa 40k for changing my 991 t when including reg costs and 5k depreciation for something that would still be a similar spec - rear seats and pdk.

Funnily I’ve had more contact from OPC since declining than I have in 18months waiting for a c2. Seems they have time for us at the bottom of the porsche food chain again, but it’s still a polite no for the pts cayenne you can’t shift..

Pivo

1,082 posts

35 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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7184c said:
Declined my offered T slot for May.

I reckon it’s circa 40k for changing my 991 t when including reg costs and 5k depreciation for something that would still be a similar spec - rear seats and pdk.

Funnily I’ve had more contact from OPC since declining than I have in 18months waiting for a c2. Seems they have time for us at the bottom of the porsche food chain again, but it’s still a polite no for the pts cayenne you can’t shift..
Good move, there is not enough theatre and drama diff to move from 991T to 992T at £40k(?!)
Let other people enjoy the experience…

mrosd

33 posts

111 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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bennno said:
3 years and 20-30k miles from new dealers are selling for ‘£5k less than new price.

It used to be simple that pretty much all new cars depreciate, the pandemic changed that, whilst the recession and interest rate hikes will do again.

That said I think you’d loose less over a year on a lightly spec’d T than on a na early new GTS for 35-40k more.
I also have a deposit in (from early last year for a 4GTS too) but the prices of these are also dropping. I can't see these being sold back at list by the time I got one either? or is there more hope with a 4GTS (maybe summer)

Main aim is to get a 992.2 without having lost any cash on any purchase before that from the dealer.. think I am being too optomistic now that rates have gone up?

andywalton

184 posts

87 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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991Ts seem to have held well only around £5K price less at dealers than list. But if you look at the trade price, they are around £60-65K so overall it would seem that you are still looking at 30% depreciation on base list over three years. So it would seem that the market is starting to re-adjust after recent years.

bennno

11,636 posts

269 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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andywalton said:
991Ts seem to have held well only around £5K price less at dealers than list. But if you look at the trade price, they are around £60-65K so overall it would seem that you are still looking at 30% depreciation on base list over three years. So it would seem that the market is starting to re-adjust after recent years.
The 991T was 15k cheaper to buy though....

andywalton

184 posts

87 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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bennno said:
The 991T was 15k cheaper to buy though....
The 991T was 85 list? So trade now at 60-65 for a 3 year old is pretty good. With the current market and low volumes of new / nearly new 911s, I don't see the 992T being a free motoring car unless you can sell privately and someone really wants your colour & spec. Selling to a dealer, they might make close to list but they will want a margin.


bennno

11,636 posts

269 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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andywalton said:
bennno said:
The 991T was 15k cheaper to buy though....
The 991T was 85 list? So trade now at 60-65 for a 3 year old is pretty good. With the current market and low volumes of new / nearly new 911s, I don't see the 992T being a free motoring car unless you can sell privately and someone really wants your colour & spec. Selling to a dealer, they might make close to list but they will want a margin.
I don’t disagree, although they’ve made next to no c2 cars for 12-18 months.

I’m just a little torn between the new T I’ve been offered for imminent build, or a 718 Spyder. Was also offered new m2, but discounted that.

andywalton

184 posts

87 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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bennno said:
I don’t disagree, although they’ve made next to no c2 cars for 12-18 months.

I’m just a little torn between the new T I’ve been offered for imminent build, or a 718 Spyder. Was also offered new m2, but discounted that.
Have you definitely got a Spyder build? If you have then you could always negotiate now on the T purchase and sell back. Get the DP to sign to buy at a guaranteed price when the Spyder comes.

In the last 12 months there have been over 3,200 DVLA registrations of the 911 ... and yes there were more GT3s registered than base Carreras

andywalton

184 posts

87 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Tricky one ... 911 or Spyder. Very different cars, I'd say the Spyder will be more special and probably likely to hold value as it will be seen as one of the only GT cab-style cars ever built; last mid-engined ICE cabs, etc.

Joscal

2,078 posts

200 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Tough one I traded my 718 GT4 for my T it was fantastic but the GT experience just wasn’t for me despite thinking I’d always wanted one.

The Spyder is a stunning car without a shadow of a doubt.

Edited by Joscal on Wednesday 1st February 17:04

MannyLon

1,680 posts

206 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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andywalton said:
991Ts seem to have held well only around £5K price less at dealers than list. But if you look at the trade price, they are around £60-65K so overall it would seem that you are still looking at 30% depreciation on base list over three years. So it would seem that the market is starting to re-adjust after recent years.
I got offered more than that.

ags11

569 posts

140 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Most 991T’s were specced to 90k plus or more, so it is 30% depreciation, granted they’ll be coming up on 5 years old now…

Apart from perhaps GT cars people need to get depreciation free motoring out of their heads.
Gullible customers are part of the hype situation creating the unsustainable!

MannyLon

1,680 posts

206 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Only 1 manual T on the Porsche UK site. Going for ~80k. Pretty strong money considering it's winter.

Pivo

1,082 posts

35 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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ags11 said:
Most 991T’s were specced to 90k plus or more, so it is 30% depreciation, granted they’ll be coming up on 5 years old now…

Apart from perhaps GT cars people need to get depreciation free motoring out of their heads.
Gullible customers are part of the hype situation creating the unsustainable!
I am glad you said that. Bonanza is over, back to reality!

GTSjohn

151 posts

93 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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MannyLon said:
Only 1 manual T on the Porsche UK site. Going for ~80k. Pretty strong money considering it's winter.
That's Edinburgh OPC for you. Mind you it was up at £85,000 when they first took it in................been there around 3 months now and obviously still no takers.

Joscal

2,078 posts

200 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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I put mine in WBAC just to see and was offered 62k. 6500 miles, PDK (I know) Black, grey T interior and no rear seats.

Edited by Joscal on Thursday 2nd February 06:48

7184c

415 posts

91 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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Some of the cars on AT have been around since the summer. The gt silver one up in north east with low miles needed a major service as well when I enquired.

Nurburgsingh

5,119 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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Joscal said:
I put mine in WBAC just to see and was offered 62k. 6500 miles, PDK (I know) Black, grey T interior and no rear seats.

Edited by Joscal on Thursday 2nd February 06:48
Have you asked an OPC what they'd give you?

AJAYE2015

186 posts

123 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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MannyLon said:
I got offered more than that.
What did you get offered can I ask

I see a 911 992 carrera s 22 reg on auto trader silver at 108,5
How flexible do you think they are on a car
Thanks

Joscal

2,078 posts

200 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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Nurburgsingh said:
Have you asked an OPC what they'd give you?
I haven’t, I’m sure it will be as said above though!