Anyone for ‘T’

Anyone for ‘T’

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Mario149

7,754 posts

178 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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LotusAde said:
I have specced mine up as well. Not ordered yet as I really want to know more about the ratios in the close ratio box. Does anybody know yet? I was a bit disappointed at the 20kg weight difference so don't want to be disappointed with the gearbox as well.
Having spent last weekend in a base manual Carrera which I found surprisingly enjoyable, I wouldn't die in a ditch over the shorter gearing if that's your only concern - 2nd and 3rd in the Carrera were the same as on my 997 GTS (75mph and ~105mph), so already significantly shorter than 997 GT3 and 981 gearing, yet for all but the last 1K rpm it pulls significantly harder than my 997 GTS. Don't get me wrong, shorter is better, but I was still clacking up and down through 2nd, 3rd and 4th plenty, so even if the T is only a little shorter, it'll still be even better smile

Frank Nutt

1 posts

104 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Hi,

I placed a £5000.00 deposit on the 23rd Oct, I've been told I have an allocation, with a build date the end of Feb and delivery Mid March. I love manual cars and I'm trusting Porsche know what they are doing and have given us a great (Road) drivers car!

This my spec http://www.porsche-code.com/PJZFDKB1



Geneve

3,861 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I'm really liking the look of this new 'T'.

Although I have a GT3 Touring arriving in early 2018, I do think a sensibly specified 'T' will offer most people much of the fun and satisfaction at a considerable saving.

I subscribe to the 'less is more' mantra when it comes to 911s, and 16 years with a 2,7RS 'lightweight' and 3.2'CS', constantly reminded me of the benefits of not carrying any more weight than necessary.

I'd definitely want pccbs, preferably buckets, lwt or folding, cruise, probably RWS, and then I'd start being cautious with what's needed and what adds weight and cost.

The Sunroof would be a definite no, no, - too much weight in the wrong place and not that good IME. Careful with lights, I've heard that LEDs add significant kilos. PCM? perhaps.


Edited by Geneve on Saturday 25th November 11:15

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Geneve said:
I'm really liking the look of this new 'T'.

Although I have a GT3 Touring arriving in early 2018, I do think a sensibly specified 'T' will offer most people much of the fun and satisfaction at a considerable saving.

I subscribe to the 'less is more' mantra when it comes to 911s, and 16 years with a 2,7RS 'lightweight' and 3.2'CS', constantly reminded me of the benefits of not carrying any more weight than necessary.

I'd definitely want pccbs, preferably buckets, lwt or folding, cruise, probably RWS, and then I'd start being cautious with what's needed and what adds weight and cost.

The Sunroof would be a definite no, no, - too much weight in the wrong place and not that good IME. Careful with lights, I've heard that LEDs add significant kilos. PCM? perhaps.


Edited by Geneve on Saturday 25th November 11:15
You have clearly understood the ethos of the T and speccing it pretty much exactly as i would.I have a new GT3 so the T is not under consideration.The T needs to be as light as possible, however i would tick PCM for the phone..
My spec would include LWBS,PCCBS,RWS,Manual but not much else. I would definitely not have LEDs and sunroof for the same reasons you cite.

Koln-RS

3,863 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Also agree.

With the ‘T’, getting the spec just right could make the difference between a special ‘driver focussed’ 911, and just another mainstream 991. So, yes to pccbs but no to the sunroof.

Bobtherallyfan

1,268 posts

78 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Finally found a PDF brochure on Porsche.com. They love to bury them. Slightly concerned about the reference to soundproofing being reduced to a bare minimum. I know it is a sports car but I want something useable on a day to day basis.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Finally found a PDF brochure on Porsche.com. They love to bury them. Slightly concerned about the reference to soundproofing being reduced to a bare minimum. I know it is a sports car but I want something useable on a day to day basis.
Porsche have reduced the insulation on the gen 2 GT3 but this can still be used as a daily.

GT4 noisier car the the Gen 1 Gt3 but again the GT4 is suitable for daily use.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Taffy66 said:
You have clearly understood the ethos of the T and speccing it pretty much exactly as i would.I have a new GT3 so the T is not under consideration.The T needs to be as light as possible, however i would tick PCM for the phone..
My spec would include LWBS,PCCBS,RWS,Manual but not much else. I would definitely not have LEDs and sunroof for the same reasons you cite.
Broadly agree with Taffy on the spec but personally I think ceramics are too expensive on the T, a non GT car, and rws is questionable too. Don't think my spec will include these but pcm is free and really a no brainer.

WizzBang

297 posts

106 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Why this PCCB love-in? Having driven the diddy steels and the PCCBs back to back, I couldn't discern any meaningful difference other than perhaps the steels felt a bit more progressive. The steels are really rather good.

Easiest £6k I ever saved.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

227 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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av185 said:
Porsche have reduced the insulation on the gen 2 GT3 but this can still be used as a daily.
Not sure I'd like to use mine as a daily, to much cabin noise and rattles from the engine driving it around town.

It sure is an 'event' though when I do use it

worldwidewebs

2,351 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Interested to hear why people are (thinking of) specifying buckets, either folding or lightweight. I get it on a track car, but on a 'touring' I'm not so sold. And I had them on my CR...

Bmdub

150 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Finally found a PDF brochure on Porsche.com. They love to bury them. Slightly concerned about the reference to soundproofing being reduced to a bare minimum. I know it is a sports car but I want something useable on a day to day basis.
Where abouts did you find the PDF brochure ?

Bobtherallyfan

1,268 posts

78 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Bmdub said:
Where abouts did you find the PDF brochure ?
https://files.porsche.com/filestore/download/multimedia/en/991-2nd-c2-t-catalogue/default/53684ef5-b593-11e7-b591-0019999cd470/911-Carrera-T-Catalogue.pdf

Hope that link works

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Tony 1234 said:
av185 said:
Porsche have reduced the insulation on the gen 2 GT3 but this can still be used as a daily.
Not sure I'd like to use mine as a daily, to much cabin noise and rattles from the engine driving it around town.

It sure is an 'event' though when I do use it
Interesting .....I understood the gen 2 sounded a lot quieter transmission wise than the gen 1 due to the dual mass flywheel?

Hate the bag of nails clatter of the gen 1..is yours PDK? Just had my gen 2 allocation confirmed prob going manual but PDK poss quieter?


Bmdub

150 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Perfect, thankyou.


Bmdub

150 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Perfect, thankyou.


Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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worldwidewebs said:
Interested to hear why people are (thinking of) specifying buckets, either folding or lightweight. I get it on a track car, but on a 'touring' I'm not so sold. And I had them on my CR...
Weight I imagine...given the ethos of the car is driver focus and weight reduction it would make sense to continue that theme with how you spec it. Buckets and PCCB's being the two options that do that...but combined they're £10k.

Although I reckon a T thus equipped will be forever sort after.

worldwidewebs

2,351 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Cheib said:
worldwidewebs said:
Interested to hear why people are (thinking of) specifying buckets, either folding or lightweight. I get it on a track car, but on a 'touring' I'm not so sold. And I had them on my CR...
Weight I imagine...given the ethos of the car is driver focus and weight reduction it would make sense to continue that theme with how you spec it. Buckets and PCCB's being the two options that do that...but combined they're £10k.

Although I reckon a T thus equipped will be forever sort after.
Fair enough, good points smile

Koln-RS

3,863 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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worldwidewebs said:
Interested to hear why people are (thinking of) specifying buckets, either folding or lightweight. I get it on a track car, but on a 'touring' I'm not so sold. And I had them on my CR...
I think the manual 'T' provides the opportunity to create a 'junior' 911R/GT3 Touring, so some of the more driver focussed options such as seats, pccbs, etc, help distinguish it from the more mainstream 991s.

The folding buckets would be very good in a 'T', with not too much compromise and that extra security that you can feel, even on the road.

moonigan

2,137 posts

241 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I think its a Clubsport in all but name especially with the right selection of options. The man maths is strong on this one.

Guards Red
Manual
Parking Sensors
Buckets
Cruise
Interior Package
PCM

That will do nicely thanks.


Edited by moonigan on Saturday 25th November 21:55