Classic Cars Caught Unawares in their Natural Environment

Classic Cars Caught Unawares in their Natural Environment

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GTBob

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155 posts

177 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Hi All,
Maybe you'll be interested in my hobby and may be able to help me identify some of the cars I have been unable to identify.

I collect postcards that show cars, but in which the car is really incidental. Why I like them is because the cars are 'captured' off guard. They are not photos of the cars per se, but rather of a scene in which the car car happens to find itself. I'm a big fan of classic cars but do like to see them 'in period' so to speak.

Anyway, here's my blog. Hope you like it.

https://postcardsforpetrolheads.co.uk/

Best wishes,
Bob


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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The darker open car, between the two bike/sidecars, looks to be a Citroen, probably a 1920s B of one version or another.

I have no idea on that wonderful long white thing, but it's gorgeous! Could be a Mercedes, from the V of the radiator? "Balloon car" body?

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Saturday 13th January 17:37

MDL111

6,895 posts

176 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Some great looking postcards
UK clearly had a lack of engineers to build bridges at some point, what with all those cars crossing fords .....

eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
I have no idea on that wonderful long white thing, but it's gorgeous! Could be a Mercedes, from the V of the radiator? "Balloon car" body?
It's also got hints of Prince Henry Vauxhall as well.

nicanary

9,751 posts

145 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
The darker open car, between the two bike/sidecars, looks to be a Citroen, probably a 1920s B of one version or another.

I have no idea on that wonderful long white thing, but it's gorgeous! Could be a Mercedes, from the V of the radiator? "Balloon car" body?

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Saturday 13th January 17:37
That's one heck of a long wheelbase. I also thought immediately of special body for a balloon enthusiast.
Austro-Daimler? (The radiator shell fits the bill - chrome and pointed).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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eccles said:
It's also got hints of Prince Henry Vauxhall as well.
Doesn't have the bonnet flutes, though.

eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
eccles said:
It's also got hints of Prince Henry Vauxhall as well.
Doesn't have the bonnet flutes, though.
You can tell on that picture? They generally have very short flutes on PH Vauxhalls and there's no definition of anything after the radiator on that photo as it's over exposed and not detailed enough.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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eccles said:
You can tell on that picture? They generally have very short flutes on PH Vauxhalls and there's no definition of anything after the radiator on that photo as it's over exposed and not detailed enough.
Click on it, and go to the ThumbSnap site. Then click on the image again, and get it at full res.

https://thumbsnap.com/f/cadW9h20

eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
eccles said:
You can tell on that picture? They generally have very short flutes on PH Vauxhalls and there's no definition of anything after the radiator on that photo as it's over exposed and not detailed enough.
Click on it, and go to the ThumbSnap site. Then click on the image again, and get it at full res.

https://thumbsnap.com/f/cadW9h20
I did.

Allan L

779 posts

104 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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I'd vote against the Vauxhall. As said the Price Henry has very short bonnet flutes, but the radiator has pronounced fluting which this car has not. Those PH Vauxhalls which have the spare wheel on the off-side mount it further back on the whole.

RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
eccles said:
It's also got hints of Prince Henry Vauxhall as well.
Doesn't have the bonnet flutes, though.
Agree, there's no flutes on that bonnet.

Roy C

4,187 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Early 1920s Steyrs also had that kind of radiator cowl (a popular design on German cars of the period), but it is closer to an Austro-Daimler.

So it may be more Prinz Heinrich than Prince Henry.

Edited by Roy C on Sunday 14th January 11:51

nicanary

9,751 posts

145 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Roy C said:
Early 1920s Steyrs also had that kind of radiator cowl (a popular design on German cars of the period), but it is closer to an Austro-Daimler.

Edited by Roy C on Sunday 14th January 11:37
I think the mystery car is quite a bit older than the others in the photo - probably more Edwardian than early '20s. If you try to imagine a landaulet body on that chassis, it would have been huge.

velocemitch

3,795 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Great blog, love old photos like those.

GTBob

Original Poster:

155 posts

177 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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velocemitch said:
Great blog, love old photos like those.
Thanks. I am enjoying this conversation too. I'm pretty good at identifying post war cars but I don't know so much about this period. I thought it was pre First World War and, following up on the responses on this blog, was leaning towards an Austro-Daimler, but then TooMany2cvs mentioned a lack of bonnet flutes. However, I have found this image on a site called Curios www.courios.at that seems to show a 1920 Austro Daimler Tourenwagen without flutes. What do you think?



Bob

postcardsforpetrolheads.co.uk



RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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GTBob said:
... leaning towards an Austro-Daimler, but then TooMany2cvs mentioned a lack of bonnet flutes...
Bob, it's the Vauxhalls of the era that had the flutes not the Austro-Daimler.

GTBob

Original Poster:

155 posts

177 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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RichB said:
Bob, it's the Vauxhalls of the era that had the flutes not the Austro-Daimler.
Duh! I should have read that more carefully! I'll try to keep up from now on!

Roy C

4,187 posts

283 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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GTBob said:
velocemitch said:
Great blog, love old photos like those.
Thanks. I am enjoying this conversation too. I'm pretty good at identifying post war cars but I don't know so much about this period. I thought it was pre First World War and, following up on the responses on this blog, was leaning towards an Austro-Daimler, but then TooMany2cvs mentioned a lack of bonnet flutes. However, I have found this image on a site called Curios www.courios.at that seems to show a 1920 Austro Daimler Tourenwagen without flutes. What do you think?



Bob

postcardsforpetrolheads.co.uk
I think that it is probably an Austro-Daimler AD 6-17, designed by Ferdinand Porsche shortly after WW1 and based on the pre-war Prinz Heinrich (in much the same way as Vauxhall's Prince Henry led to the development of the 30-98).



yosini

265 posts

148 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Nice idea. Here's a more contemporary version of classics caught on the periphery.

do a google search on #ThisMuchImWorth - awesome sculpture.

ruhall

506 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Great thread, thanks; some interesting cars on the various photos.