Hot tub removal/relocation

Hot tub removal/relocation

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WarnieV6GT

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1,135 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I was talking at the weekend with my brother-in-law who has just recently moved house. Soon the conversation moved onto the relocation of his hot tub and how much it cost.

He paid £300 which I thought was quite cheap but it seems the going rate, but more interesting was the amount of work this guy who came from nottingham had on. He stated that he does up to 4 a day and as not many people are doing it he struggles to keep up sometimes especially as he offers service's and repairs as well.

I now have afternoons free from my business so am looking for something else to do so this naturally has got me thinking... It looks as though initial outlay for equipment/trailer/medium van etc should come in at under £10k. With this in mind I intend to look into it a bit more but I thought I'd ask here for any advice or potential pitfalls I may encounter? or if any of you have any experience doing this now or in the past?

randlemarcus

13,519 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Spending ten grand to touch other peoples dirty sex ponds? Nah, ah'm oot.

WarnieV6GT

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1,135 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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randlemarcus said:
Spending ten grand to touch other peoples dirty sex ponds? Nah, ah'm oot.
Ah bks.. We could have made it big you know?

Never mind ..

Frimley111R

15,646 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I assume you'd need some physical help to do this too. I'd also image moving it out of people's back gardens is not easy as they are big items.

You could just set up a quick website etc and see if there's any interest. Sort of get the wok and then worry about how to do it.

WarnieV6GT

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1,135 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Frimley111R said:
I assume you'd need some physical help to do this too. I'd also image moving it out of people's back gardens is not easy as they are big items.

You could just set up a quick website etc and see if there's any interest. Sort of get the wok and then worry about how to do it.
That's not a bad idea at all. If I did this it would be as a partnership with my friend who has a web design business but is also a general handyman as he has a knack of picking things up really easily. He also has a bit of time on his hands due to his wife pissing off with his kids...

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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WarnieV6GT said:
randlemarcus said:
Spending ten grand to touch other peoples dirty sex ponds? Nah, ah'm oot.
Ah bks.. We could have made it big you know?

Never mind ..
Lol, the water will not be in when you move it - unless of course you've had your shredded wheat and can move it with water in !!!

Nor do you have to touch the filters.

Oceanic

731 posts

101 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Are you a qualified electrician?

russy01

4,693 posts

181 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Does he literally just move them, or does he move and install for £300? If its the latter then I assume you will need to know a bit about the hot tubs and electrics as said above?

If its just moving then it could be simple once you've got the equipment.

Local to me is a retail shopping outlet with a NEXT clearance store. Said store sells returned/seconds furniture (mainly sofas) from their online/catalogue business at superb prices - the only issue is that they do not deliver and once purchased you have to collect the goods within 24hrs. Anyway one afternoon we spotted a fab sofa which we purchased on the spot, when paying I asked about collection and the shop assistant gave me a list of 3/4 removal/handy men.

I got on the phone to this geezer and it was something like £40 cash within 10miles. I got chatting to the bloke and he does 5-10 drops a day! Work out the numbers and its incredible the amount of cash you can generate farting about with a van!

madmover

1,725 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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I'm assuming you will not want to undercut him on price at £300. So what additional value can you add vs the services which are already in existence? Why would I pick up the phone to you, vs the guy who does 4 per day, is busy, and has been doing it since Noah built the ark?

How do you intend on handling a situation whereby a customer wants their hot tub moving, but can't have it done the afternoon you're off work?

I'd be very clear about what you want out of this. Chances are, in one afternoon, you're probably going to move one, maybe two at most (if you're lucky). You need to weigh it up vs investing 10k in your existing business and working an extra afternoon per week. I think it may prove hard to be scalable, and will certainly be labour intensive. That's my view anyhow!

That said, if you like the idea of it, or fancy developing something bigger than a part time job, then go for it. Worst situation is you fail to recover all of your investment/start up costs, and some personal time.

Frimley111R

15,646 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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To add, you could also target people on Facebook selling groups and ebay and tell them that anyone buying a hot tub from them can call you to install/deliver. Even easier that building a website, just a few emails and zero cost!

WarnieV6GT

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1,135 posts

199 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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madmover said:
I'm assuming you will not want to undercut him on price at £300.

I was quite surprised that he did it for that but the more I look into it it's not that difficult with the right equipment. The guy was also operating on his own

So what additional value can you add vs the services which are already in existence? Why would I pick up the phone to you, vs the guy who does 4 per day, is busy, and has been doing it since Noah built the ark?

There is not many people doing this so although we may not be better, although I would obviously be aiming for that, I reckon that a well optimized site may do the job. That is where my friend who is a web designer would come in

How do you intend on handling a situation whereby a customer wants their hot tub moving, but can't have it done the afternoon you're off work?

That wouldn't be a problem, I am flexible in the hours I can get my work done if needs be

I'd be very clear about what you want out of this. Chances are, in one afternoon, you're probably going to move one, maybe two at most (if you're lucky). You need to weigh it up vs investing 10k in your existing business and working an extra afternoon per week. I think it may prove hard to be scalable, and will certainly be labour intensive. That's my view anyhow!

Well my thinking was that 4 a week let alone a day would be nice as a 2nd income

That said, if you like the idea of it, or fancy developing something bigger than a part time job, then go for it. Worst situation is you fail to recover all of your investment/start up costs, and some personal time.

WarnieV6GT

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Thursday 18th January 2018
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Oceanic said:
Are you a qualified electrician?
Nope!

But I would be willing to do a basic electrics course or do whatever I need to install this competently. That's why I put it on here as there's so many things that need to be considered, so thanks

WarnieV6GT

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Thursday 18th January 2018
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Frimley111R said:
To add, you could also target people on Facebook selling groups and ebay and tell them that anyone buying a hot tub from them can call you to install/deliver. Even easier that building a website, just a few emails and zero cost!
Spot on!

I get the most success with facebook for my current business

WarnieV6GT

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Thursday 18th January 2018
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russy01 said:
Does he literally just move them, or does he move and install for £300? If its the latter then I assume you will need to know a bit about the hot tubs and electrics as said above?

If its just moving then it could be simple once you've got the equipment.

Local to me is a retail shopping outlet with a NEXT clearance store. Said store sells returned/seconds furniture (mainly sofas) from their online/catalogue business at superb prices - the only issue is that they do not deliver and once purchased you have to collect the goods within 24hrs. Anyway one afternoon we spotted a fab sofa which we purchased on the spot, when paying I asked about collection and the shop assistant gave me a list of 3/4 removal/handy men.

I got on the phone to this geezer and it was something like £40 cash within 10miles. I got chatting to the bloke and he does 5-10 drops a day! Work out the numbers and its incredible the amount of cash you can generate farting about with a van!
Ideally you need a van for this anyway to tow the hot tub and to be able to carry other equipment needed. I was thinking of a mid size van, but why not get a XL van and offer the above as well? cheers

russy01

4,693 posts

181 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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WarnieV6GT said:
Ideally you need a van for this anyway to tow the hot tub and to be able to carry other equipment needed. I was thinking of a mid size van, but why not get a XL van and offer the above as well? cheers
I am by no mean suggesting you contact NEXT and deliver sofas - but I hadn't realised the demand for such services. Its easy work and as you say it would be great as a 2nd income - plus its cash!

Cyberprog

2,189 posts

183 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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They are not fun to move. Helped a mate carry one down a passageway which was barely big enough, and only by removing the downpipes on either side (after he bribed the next door neighbours who were not keen, but soon shut up when they had some notes in their hands). Had to lift it over a jutting out meter cabinet too. Took 4 of us. And had to dismantle a fence too.

Needless to say when he moved I noped right out of helping shift it back out! And he'd pissed the neighbours off so they wouldn't take the bribe the second time. God knows how he got it out in the end...

WarnieV6GT

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1,135 posts

199 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Cyberprog said:
They are not fun to move. Helped a mate carry one down a passageway which was barely big enough, and only by removing the downpipes on either side (after he bribed the next door neighbours who were not keen, but soon shut up when they had some notes in their hands). Had to lift it over a jutting out meter cabinet too. Took 4 of us. And had to dismantle a fence too.

Needless to say when he moved I noped right out of helping shift it back out! And he'd pissed the neighbours off so they wouldn't take the bribe the second time. God knows how he got it out in the end...
Yes your right that's why the people that move them state on their sites that "access has to be clear before booking". If access is impossible then a crane is used as the customers expense.