300mph by year end?
Discussion
Just been reading the below article:
http://www.thedrive.com/tech/17773/just-how-fast-c...
Michelin and Koenigsegg both agree they could comfortably support a 300mph run.
Will we see this by the end of 2018? I bloody hope so!
http://www.thedrive.com/tech/17773/just-how-fast-c...
Michelin and Koenigsegg both agree they could comfortably support a 300mph run.
Will we see this by the end of 2018? I bloody hope so!
Plug Life said:
AmosMoses said:
Will we see this by the end of 2018? I bloody hope so!
Why?Because the technology will filter down the chain..
Better aero / more efficient engine technology / cooling / suspension / braking / tyre technology... These all benefit.
TobyLerone said:
Assuming I don't need a whoosh parrot...
Because the technology will filter down the chain..
Better aero / more efficient engine technology / cooling / suspension / braking / tyre technology... These all benefit.
They're using "off-the-shelf"(-ish) tyres in something based heavily on their Le Mans car. I'm not sure tweaking the rev limiter and gearing for an extra 15-25mph in a publicity stunt or two is going to add a lot to the sum total of mankind's knowledge. And it surely won't change the product range of anything in a dealer near you.Because the technology will filter down the chain..
Better aero / more efficient engine technology / cooling / suspension / braking / tyre technology... These all benefit.
TBH I really cannot see the point, besides when they test the car to set the record when else is it going to do 300mph.
Money would be better spent making an obtainable sports car. 40k or less straight or v6 2 seats between 250 and 400 hp. I guess you could argue that the tech will filter down to normal cars but frankly a lot of cars Are to fast to enjoy now anyway. Nodoubt someone will tell me that I am wrong though.
Money would be better spent making an obtainable sports car. 40k or less straight or v6 2 seats between 250 and 400 hp. I guess you could argue that the tech will filter down to normal cars but frankly a lot of cars Are to fast to enjoy now anyway. Nodoubt someone will tell me that I am wrong though.
The engineering problem solving required to get to 300mph (even if the car and tyre is relatively unchanged) is as much of interest as any tenuous link to any technological trickle down to road cars.
It's exciting stuff. Yes it's number chasing in this case, but it's incremental progress and pushing things to the limit. That's the way a lot of automotive developments have taken place, long may it continue.
I suspect the tyres as is are perfectly capable of 300mph, but the monitoring systems and protocol to ensure they don't overheat/fail at a speed that is running higher than their safety-factor rating would be critical.
God knows how you control the quality of road surface as well, would expect you'd need to walk/clean the whole strip before the run. Imagine a puncture at that speed!
It's exciting stuff. Yes it's number chasing in this case, but it's incremental progress and pushing things to the limit. That's the way a lot of automotive developments have taken place, long may it continue.
I suspect the tyres as is are perfectly capable of 300mph, but the monitoring systems and protocol to ensure they don't overheat/fail at a speed that is running higher than their safety-factor rating would be critical.
God knows how you control the quality of road surface as well, would expect you'd need to walk/clean the whole strip before the run. Imagine a puncture at that speed!
Given that they're talking about moving to the salt flats, then let's not forget that the first time a wheel-driven, piston-engined car did 300mph on Bonneville was...
September 1935. Yep, 82 years ago.
Within four years, another 70mph had been found.
Obviously, there were minor political difficulties for a while, but once normal service was resumed, it wasn't long before it was a gnat's crotchet from 400mph. 70 years ago. Then people got a bit bored with pistons and driven wheels.
Hell, even without forced induction, it's over 50yrs since north of 400mph was ticked off.
September 1935. Yep, 82 years ago.
Within four years, another 70mph had been found.
Obviously, there were minor political difficulties for a while, but once normal service was resumed, it wasn't long before it was a gnat's crotchet from 400mph. 70 years ago. Then people got a bit bored with pistons and driven wheels.
Hell, even without forced induction, it's over 50yrs since north of 400mph was ticked off.
TooMany2cvs said:
Given that they're talking about moving to the salt flats, then let's not forget that the first time a wheel-driven, piston-engined car did 300mph on Bonneville was...
September 1935. Yep, 82 years ago.
Within four years, another 70mph had been found.
Obviously, there were minor political difficulties for a while, but once normal service was resumed, it wasn't long before it was a gnat's crotchet from 400mph. 70 years ago. Then people got a bit bored with pistons and driven wheels.
Hell, even without forced induction, it's over 50yrs since north of 400mph was ticked off.
Were they road cars?September 1935. Yep, 82 years ago.
Within four years, another 70mph had been found.
Obviously, there were minor political difficulties for a while, but once normal service was resumed, it wasn't long before it was a gnat's crotchet from 400mph. 70 years ago. Then people got a bit bored with pistons and driven wheels.
Hell, even without forced induction, it's over 50yrs since north of 400mph was ticked off.
I hope they do it just because they can.
More technology barriers should be broken by people who just 'can'.
We need to get back to the space race/supersonic jet race age of boundary pushing engineering in front of the masses (because it's still happening every day but it just doesn't get publicised in a way that even remotely compares to what that must have been like).
More technology barriers should be broken by people who just 'can'.
We need to get back to the space race/supersonic jet race age of boundary pushing engineering in front of the masses (because it's still happening every day but it just doesn't get publicised in a way that even remotely compares to what that must have been like).
DoubleD said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Given that they're talking about moving to the salt flats, then let's not forget that the first time a wheel-driven, piston-engined car did 300mph on Bonneville was...
September 1935. Yep, 82 years ago.
Within four years, another 70mph had been found.
Obviously, there were minor political difficulties for a while, but once normal service was resumed, it wasn't long before it was a gnat's crotchet from 400mph. 70 years ago. Then people got a bit bored with pistons and driven wheels.
Hell, even without forced induction, it's over 50yrs since north of 400mph was ticked off.
Were they road cars?September 1935. Yep, 82 years ago.
Within four years, another 70mph had been found.
Obviously, there were minor political difficulties for a while, but once normal service was resumed, it wasn't long before it was a gnat's crotchet from 400mph. 70 years ago. Then people got a bit bored with pistons and driven wheels.
Hell, even without forced induction, it's over 50yrs since north of 400mph was ticked off.
Unless they're planning to change the final drive on their cars and ship them with the new tyres from the factory, what will it change? Surely there have already been modified road cars capable of 300mph (or even 500kph) so all they'd be doing is making a slightly less (OK quite a lot less) modified road car do it.
kambites said:
Unless they're planning to change the final drive on their cars and ship them with the new tyres from the factory, what will it change? Surely there have already been modified road cars capable of 300mph so all they'd be doing is making a slightly less (OK quite a lot less) modified road car do it.
It's not as if your local Koenigsegg dealer has a choice in stock that are almost the right spec, giving you that dilemma about whether you take one or wait for a factory order.Anyway, didn't they stop building Ageras a year or so ago?
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