PPF, Ceramic Coating - which did you go for?

PPF, Ceramic Coating - which did you go for?

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Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Yolo911t said:
did you ceramic coat on top of your ppf?
According to Staffordshire Car car who are the local Gyeon detailer, they say PPF first, then ceramic and yes, they coat over the film. I think all the newer films are okay with ceramic coating, but it's worth verifying this with whoever you end up using.

smudger911

494 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Digga said:
Yolo911t said:
did you ceramic coat on top of your ppf?
According to Staffordshire Car car who are the local Gyeon detailer, they say PPF first, then ceramic and yes, they coat over the film. I think all the newer films are okay with ceramic coating, but it's worth verifying this with whoever you end up using.
FWIW I have the same with the Topaz film, Gtechniq coating on top. Wheels also have the gtechniq applied too. First car I've had with PPF or any coatings - very impressed so far (12 months, 7k miles). Wheels much easier to clean, bodywork inc insect roadkill easy to remove too.

throt

3,038 posts

169 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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What’s the procedure with PPF removal, guys.

Do they heat the film up, is it easy to remove?.

Tia..

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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throt said:
What’s the procedure with PPF removal, guys.

Do they heat the film up, is it easy to remove?.

Tia..
Are you worried someone will nick it in this hot weather we're enjoying? hehe

In a word, yes, it is all designed to come off again, safely.

throt

3,038 posts

169 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Digga said:
throt said:
What’s the procedure with PPF removal, guys.

Do they heat the film up, is it easy to remove?.

Tia..
Are you worried someone will nick it in this hot weather we're enjoying? hehe

In a word, yes, it is all designed to come off again, safely.
hehe

Just curious. I have a love hate relationship for PPF.

Not keen on the dust/dirt build up on the film edges. Shows a little on my white GT3. However, if it’s not on then I would have more chips. At least with the dirt/dust it’s just a matter of a detail if you ever do remove the film..You make your choice and stick with it then.

Cheers..

slampis

55 posts

129 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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throt said:
hehe

Just curious. I have a love hate relationship for PPF.

Not keen on the dust/dirt build up on the film edges. Shows a little on my white GT3. However, if it’s not on then I would have more chips. At least with the dirt/dust it’s just a matter of a detail if you ever do remove the film..You make your choice and stick with it then.

Cheers..
If you wrap all the edges there is no dirt buildup wink



And you can't see the film at all. Can you guess what is covered in these pictures?



wink

throt

3,038 posts

169 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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Looks good but I was typing about places like the ‘’leading roof edge’’, ‘’rear splas gaurd’’..

Come on then ,,, what type of transportation is it smile..

slampis

55 posts

129 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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throt said:
Looks good but I was typing about places like the ‘’leading roof edge’’, ‘’rear splas gaurd’’..

Come on then ,,, what type of transportation is it smile..
Not a fan of partial wraps, have seen so many chips just above the line and right on edges wink

Pic from an Aston Martin DB11

Herefordshire

68 posts

217 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Any further thoughts three years on? New cayman gts in two weeks, thinking of ceramic coat only.

throt

3,038 posts

169 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Herefordshire said:
Any further thoughts three years on? New cayman gts in two weeks, thinking of ceramic coat only.
Think many will say Max Protect, in Kings Langley I believe.

I used Refined Detail in Henfield. Bit of a journey but you get good results.

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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I pick up my cars at the factory and track the hell out of them right away. So, right from factory I drive to a local place I Stuttgart and get the PPF on. ( I once tracked a new car at the Nürbrgring for a week and it had major stone chip damage in the front.
When the car makes it home to the dealer I then get the ceramic on top; have done this with four cars so far, three of which I have still, and zero problems.


DCCT

15 posts

38 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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My C4S Cab is currently having Full Front XPEL PPF plus a Gtechniq Serum Ultra Ceramic Coating at GVE London as we speak!

I get it back at the weekend so I'll post some thoughts/opinions!

Fl0pp3r

859 posts

202 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Be interesting to hear what the pro-PPF guys think on this.

Although I like the benefits PPF offers in terms of avoiding stone chips and gravel rash, I find it really frustrating when it comes to the polishing & waxing side of things. It could be the (old) PPF I have on the front portions, but when I try to polish it (I’ve used various products, eg AutoGlym super resin, Mazerna etc) I end up with traces and smear marks and it’s a royal PITA. Similar story buffing off waxes - problematic unless you’re using a simple liquid wax/spray. In short, you can’t bring the PPF up to the same standard of shine as the paint proper I find. How about you guys?

Maybe none of you are bothering with polish/wax stage, I dunno!?

Screamformelongbeach

43 posts

39 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Nick981 said:
I’m lucky enough to be getting a new 911 GTS next month and have been looking at the various paint protection methods on offer. I was wondering what other owners had gone for - Ceramic coating, PPF, a combination of both? With PPF, should the who.e car be covered, just the front or the front bumper? Which film and coating is best? Can you Ceramic coat film?
What’s the best option?
I've got G Techniq Crystal Serum Ultra on my X5 and I'll be getting the Crystal Serum Black on my 911 when it's delivered. Could;dn't be happier with it on the X5 so far. Car is kept outside, not washed that often and after a proper wash looks just fantastic (it's metallic black). Had some other dealer applied one on my previous 911 and it wasn't up to much - Probably poor prep beforehand though.

No experience of others apart from that but the CSU has just been phenomenal for me.

paralla

3,528 posts

134 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Fl0pp3r said:
Be interesting to hear what the pro-PPF guys think on this.

Although I like the benefits PPF offers in terms of avoiding stone chips and gravel rash, I find it really frustrating when it comes to the polishing & waxing side of things. It could be the (old) PPF I have on the front portions, but when I try to polish it (I’ve used various products, eg AutoGlym super resin, Mazerna etc) I end up with traces and smear marks and it’s a royal PITA. Similar story buffing off waxes - problematic unless you’re using a simple liquid wax/spray. In short, you can’t bring the PPF up to the same standard of shine as the paint proper I find. How about you guys?

Maybe none of you are bothering with polish/wax stage, I dunno!?
My GT3 has Xpel Ultimate all over. I use carPro Reload. Super easy to use and the shine looks pretty good to me.
https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/carpro-reload-spray...


Steve Rance

5,435 posts

230 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Just get out there and drive them. More fun is to be had from the inside looking out.

EvoSid

1,100 posts

62 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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If you can get it PPF'd. You will not regret it. You can then get a coating anytime as the the paint is protected.
My Gt4 has all over PPF and I amazed how good the paint looks after 5 years

DCCT

15 posts

38 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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My first time doing PPF + Ceramic on any car and I’m very impressed. I had a Full Front XPEL Ultimate Plus PPF with Gtechniq Serum Ultra Ceramic Coating done by GVE this past week. Given the car is 18 months old, I’m absolutely over the moon! It looks like brand new!

I can understand the arguments for and against PPF. My decision was based on wanting the car to look its best for as long as possible. I plan on doing 10k miles a year, often on longer journeys so stone chips were a concern. I’m probably most impressed with the ceramic coating though. The gloss is superb!


Jack drinker

66 posts

131 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Well I’ve got experience with both, a Performante with PPF only, a Taycan with both PPF and ceramic coating (over the PPF) and a GT3 with just ceramic coating.

I would value the PPF over the ceramic coating. The benefits of the coating can be replicated with some (much cheaper) Gyeon products such as Can Coat.

The PPF does keep the car looking like new. My advice would be PPF rather than ceramic coating, both if you have the budget, if not use a quartz coating over the PPF.

paralla

3,528 posts

134 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Jack drinker said:
Well I’ve got experience with both, a Performante with PPF only, a Taycan with both PPF and ceramic coating (over the PPF) and a GT3 with just ceramic coating.

I would value the PPF over the ceramic coating. The benefits of the coating can be replicated with some (much cheaper) Gyeon products such as Can Coat.

The PPF does keep the car looking like new. My advice would be PPF rather than ceramic coating, both if you have the budget, if not use a quartz coating over the PPF.
I agree. Just to add the benefits of ceramic coating on top of PPF can also be replicated with some (much cheaper) products.

Edited by paralla on Monday 1st March 12:01