PCCB GT3 will I notice the reduction in unsprung weight

PCCB GT3 will I notice the reduction in unsprung weight

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Robbo66

3,833 posts

233 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Phooey said:
DeltaOne said:
I always spec PCCB because I like them, like the lack of dust, and like the yellow calipers and what they represent kgs
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If truth were told, that’s why 90% spec them. Not noticeable at all when tracking in a little chef car park.

LordOfTheManor

1,267 posts

111 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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The braking compared to steels is a massive improvement !

Phooey

12,598 posts

169 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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LordOfTheManor said:
The braking compared to steels is a massive improvement !
No wonder they wouldn't give you a car talking that bks biggrin

dvshannow

1,580 posts

136 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Phooey said:
LordOfTheManor said:
The braking compared to steels is a massive improvement !
No wonder they wouldn't give you a car talking that bks biggrin
He means for 24hr racing

LordOfTheManor

1,267 posts

111 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Phooey said:
No wonder they wouldn't give you a car talking that bks biggrin
I don’t think they are available on a ‘sprinter’ are they ?
But please go pick on someone who’s really going to be bothered !!! rofl

Phooey

12,598 posts

169 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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dvshannow said:
He means for 24hr racing
Ah ok, thought we were talking Little Chef car parks hehe

RSVP911

8,192 posts

133 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Robbo66 said:
Phooey said:
DeltaOne said:
I always spec PCCB because I like them, like the lack of dust, and like the yellow calipers and what they represent kgs
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If truth were told, that’s why 90% spec them. Not noticeable at all when tracking in a little chef car park.
Rob you don’t half talk some tosh - they are super noticeable because they are yellow and big - they don’t even let you into a Waitrose without them now !

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Adrian-9iafn

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280 posts

72 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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I have picked up a 991.1 GT3 with PCCB, so very happy

Slippydiff

14,816 posts

223 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Robbo66 said:
If truth were told, that’s why 90% spec them. Not noticeable at all when tracking in a Little Chef Euro Garages car park.
EFA Rob smile

Mousem40

1,667 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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I've had PCCBs on my GT3 and RS for over 10 years, brake dust is still an issue and I have pitted wheels. So let's put that down as urban myth too. There may be significantly less dust, but there still is dust, and left untouched, still causes paint damage to the wheels. I also don't clean my wheels as often as I should, so maybe I notice it more.

I'd 100% option PCCbs for a lightly tracked car or road car. Not for the technical benefits but because they last for so long (pads as well as discs). You'll get your money back with those savings alone so the rest is gravy (assuming you keep the car for a good few years).

Edited by Mousem40 on Tuesday 29th May 09:22

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Mousem40 said:
I'd 100% option PCCbs for a lightly tracked car or road car. Not for the technical benefits but because they last for so long (pads as well as discs). You'll get your money back with those savings alone so the rest is gravy (assuming you keep the car for a good few years).
As a £6k option, that's what 5 complete sets of discs and pads? On a road-only car they'll last 15k miles at a guess so you'd need to do over 75k miles in the same car to break even.

I'm not seeing the financial argument.

isaldiri

18,551 posts

168 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
As a £6k option, that's what 5 complete sets of discs and pads? On a road-only car they'll last 15k miles at a guess so you'd need to do over 75k miles in the same car to break even.

I'm not seeing the financial argument.
A full set of rotors and pads, front and rear only costs you £1200?!

boringbeige

376 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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I've had Porsches both with and without pccb and ...I'm over them. They don't have anything like the feel of porsches standard steels which are always excellent. I've had pccb fade on a 2011 Boxster S and on a 2015 Boxster Spyder and on a 991.1 GTS and on a 997.2 GT3RS, all faded both on the road and on track. That s a dissapointment because they re generally not expected to fade. Conversely, on a set of steels, if you do a good few hard road miles (maybe down an Alp) or a few hard track laps and they don't fade, then that 's quite impressive. So the emotion is good. Rather than dissapointment, which is bad. PCCB keep your wheelsw cleaner but more and more Porsche cars have titanium colour or grey or black wheels, so dust doesn't show up to the same extent anyway. Cars on PCCB do seem to ride nice. but Porsches on steels don't exactly feel lead footed. But the major turn off for me is the lack of feel.

NBTBRV8

2,062 posts

208 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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NBTBRV8 said:
the issue with 987.2 cars is the steels are a bit crap 317MM disks on 4 pots

the PCCB are 996 GT3 6 pot calipers with 350MM disks all round, the performance is night and day, and yes I own both and it's 10 fold better with PCCB in the 987 gen cars.

I have 2 cars with steels and 2 with PCCB, feel is the same really when warm, the difference in all the cars in mainly the servo.
model to model which can make you think feel is different.

I like both systems but in the 987 I would be hunting out a PCCB car for sure.