gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!

gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!

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Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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AndrewD said:
Hope you’ve got a nice tent, when it comes to Performante anyway. Prices for these continue to fall. Takes brave man to bet they will appreciate short term.
I would wager they might go up, people want what they cannot have and t goes out of production in March,

with 458S prices at £325k and these at £199k I think it's a safe bet you won't now loose your shirt on one.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Steve Rance said:
There was a time when buyers of GT3's were really only interested in how they drove. It strikes me that in terms of driving reward there is absolutely no difference between a current 'well' specced and a poorly specced one.
you are not allowed to say "well speced" or "poorly spec " cars it upsets the PH massive.

you have to say "low spec" or "high spec" as to not offend any one.

996 GT3 in comfort are lemons though so it's always been the case, spec a GT wrong and it won't sell at all at old or new.

Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 17th December 15:57

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I guess if you are looking for the best of what the car can be, it has to have PCCB and the cage.

Cage def makes the car stiffer, the PCCB def saves a lot of unsprung weight.

If you want the best performance you tick those box's if you don't care about the final 2/10th you don't and save a lot of money.

MR charge £96k to mod the GT2 RS for a few seconds round a 14 mile track.

you pays your money and all that.

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Porsche911R said:
I would wager they might go up, people want what they cannot have and t goes out of production in March,

with 458S prices at £325k and these at £199k I think it's a safe bet you won't now loose your shirt on one.
They are at completely different (125k) price points, and Lamborghinis are not like Ferraris when it comes to resale, at all.
There are plenty of cars with minimal miles that would have listed at 255k now moving closer to 200k and your sub 200 figure is not unreasonable.
Whereas a Speciale is still north of list.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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AndrewD said:
They are at completely different (125k) price points, and Lamborghinis are not like Ferraris when it comes to resale, at all.
There are plenty of cars with minimal miles that would have listed at 255k now moving closer to 200k and your sub 200 figure is not unreasonable.
Whereas a Speciale is still north of list.
you could buy a Speciale no issue and they sat fully speced up at £220k for a few years which was below list.

they dropped then went up when you could not buy them, I would say the Performante will do the same.

price points are, or should I say were the same.

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Porsche911R said:
you could buy a Speciale no issue and they sat fully speced up at £220k for a few years which was below list.

they dropped then went up when you could not buy them, I would say the Performante will do the same.

price points are, or should I say were the same.
rofl

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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AndrewD said:
rofl
what is funny about that statement ?

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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The real cat amongst the pigeons at these price levels is the Macari 720S 18 18 plate 1k miles selling instantly as expected at £179950 ap.

Trouble is, being a McLaren it will no doubt be £150k by March.

Although evidently it was a launch edition car.

Although usual lack of Mclaren driving involvement v a rapid 911there is no disputing this Mc is a truly rapid car and epic performance for your money.


GT4RS

4,424 posts

197 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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av185 said:
GT4RS said:
yes I do plan to buy a new Porsche GT car. At the moment the plan is to keep the other cars as they are great daily cars and purchase a new gt4 as long as it’s a 4.0 and can be specified with a pdk box.
Good luck with that.

718 GT4 will be 'manuel' only.
Do you know for a fact that the new gt4 will be manual only or that just your opinion?

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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I still think the Motor Trend “Head to Head” vid is the best comaparioson between the PDK and Manual car. It’s a bit cheesy but Mr Bovingdon is one of the presenters so has some credibility. PDK is quicker by 2/10ths on a 1min 24 Sec lap (probably a bigger margin in less able hands) but they make the point the manual car’s LSD does give it a different driving experience. One other thing they commented on was that the PDK doesn’t hold a gear when on the Rev limit even in manual ?

It’s a paywall/subscription but you can cancel in 14 days and watch for free.

Wish I was a good enough driver to notice the difference in the diff...maybe one day!

breadvan

1,998 posts

168 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Cheib said:
anonymous said:
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I still think the Motor Trend “Head to Head” vid is the best comaparioson between the PDK and Manual car. It’s a bit cheesy but Mr Bovingdon is one of the presenters so has some credibility. PDK is quicker by 2/10ths on a 1min 24 Sec lap (probably a bigger margin in less able hands) but they make the point the manual car’s LSD does give it a different driving experience. One other thing they commented on was that the PDK doesn’t hold a gear when on the Rev limit even in manual ?

It’s a paywall/subscription but you can cancel in 14 days and watch for free.

Wish I was a good enough driver to notice the difference in the diff...maybe on

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Steve Rance said:
There was a time when buyers of GT3's were really only interested in how they drove. It strikes me that in terms of driving reward there is absolutely no difference between a current 'well' specced and a poorly specced one.
GT3 market is now at another level as we see by the number of cars produced now. Buyers now want more than a just a great driving experience or perhaps they just want the GT cars for posing value.

MartinRS2K

598 posts

119 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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av185 said:
The real cat amongst the pigeons at these price levels is the Macari 720S 18 18 plate 1k miles selling instantly as expected at £179950 ap.

Trouble is, being a McLaren it will no doubt be £150k by March.

Although evidently it was a launch edition car.

Although usual lack of Mclaren driving involvement v a rapid 911there is no disputing this Mc is a truly rapid car and epic performance for your money.
It was bought by a car trader to be taken off the market. Make of that what you want??

a. Does he want to hold onto it until March and sell for a profit?
b. Does he have stock at a much higher price and needs this car out of sight so he can move his inflated cars?

Personally I'd say b.

GT4RS

4,424 posts

197 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Jon666 said:
av185 said:
GT4RS said:
Av185


So are you saying that a 991.2 gt3 is not depreciating at the moment?

I bet you have your gt3 up for sale right now trying your best to get out smile
If you read my post properly you will find the answer to your questions.

And as I said mines a keeper until at least the end of 2019 early 2020. Makes no odds to me whether it drops to £100k or goes back up to £185k both scenarios of which won't happen btw.

A question for you....are you ever going to buy one or do you intend to spend all your free time posting on here? rolleyes
Prior to 991.1 every previous generation of GT3 (regular and RS) didn’t take long to drop below 100k. Everything you say is your optimistic speculation (biased as an owner) that you present as fact. I am an owner also but don’t live in denial at the possibility of prices taking a significant dip.
It would appear av185 has firmly placed his head in the sand in terms to the change of market direction. It would appear he may have the only perfect spec cars which could be appreciating as I type. 185k could buy it, the uplift in cost could be due to the leather on the seats not being creased.... its out there on SOR somewhere!






browngt3

1,411 posts

211 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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MartinRS2K said:
It was bought by a car trader to be taken off the market. Make of that what you want??

a. Does he want to hold onto it until March and sell for a profit?
b. Does he have stock at a much higher price and needs this car out of sight so he can move his inflated cars?

Personally I'd say b.
Seems a risky strategy to me. Wonder how long he will stay in business

browngt3

1,411 posts

211 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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The biggest thing affecting the market in the near term is how many forced sellers there will be. Likely we are moving into recession (blamed on Brexit of course) and my guess there will be a few more cars and even fewer buyers. If on the other hand nothing much changes then I would think 991.2 prices will follow the trajectory of the gen 1.

PS2018

323 posts

73 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Blimey that’s a risky move! On a McLaren!! He might be offered another 20 over the next couple of months if he keeps wanting to clear the ‘cheap’ cars out of the way! Good luck!

Yellow491

2,922 posts

119 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Porsche911R said:
I guess if you are looking for the best of what the car can be, it has to have PCCB and the cage.

Cage def makes the car stiffer, the PCCB def saves a lot of unsprung weight.

If you want the best performance you tick those box's if you don't care about the final 2/10th you don't and save a lot of money.

MR charge £96k to mod the GT2 RS for a few seconds round a 14 mile track.

you pays your money and all that.
Where did you get that info r re the cage stiffer,or is that a famous r statement.What do you mean?

browngt3

1,411 posts

211 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Dammit said:
Let's see.
As there will be no fuel then clearly our cars will become worthless.

Time to break open the piggy bank then. And bag a 2.7RS. Won't be able to give them away. Me? I will just look at it all day long if I can't drive it

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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GT4RS said:
Jon666 said:
av185 said:
GT4RS said:
Av185


So are you saying that a 991.2 gt3 is not depreciating at the moment?

I bet you have your gt3 up for sale right now trying your best to get out smile
If you read my post properly you will find the answer to your questions.

And as I said mines a keeper until at least the end of 2019 early 2020. Makes no odds to me whether it drops to £100k or goes back up to £185k both scenarios of which won't happen btw.

A question for you....are you ever going to buy one or do you intend to spend all your free time posting on here? rolleyes
Prior to 991.1 every previous generation of GT3 (regular and RS) didn’t take long to drop below 100k. Everything you say is your optimistic speculation (biased as an owner) that you present as fact. I am an owner also but don’t live in denial at the possibility of prices taking a significant dip.
It would appear av185 has firmly placed his head in the sand in terms to the change of market direction. It would appear he may have the only perfect spec cars which could be appreciating as I type. 185k could buy it, the uplift in cost could be due to the leather on the seats not being creased.... its out there on SOR somewhere!
Top comedy.

You clearly still haven't read my post.

If you think my car is for sale I will do a deal. As you have so much time on your hands find it listed and you can have it. I'll even tell you the basic details to make it easier. Flat white 18 18 'manuel' clubsport pccbs P11 Spyder seats extended leather red stitching red belts alcantara carbon chrono red marker dynamic lights platinum wheels stick on front plate base door GT3 decals 2557miles.

If you can't find it by Thursday you can give me your C4S. Deal?

In fact here is a picture:

Edited by av185 on Monday 17th December 19:41