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It is all fair enough imo - some people will buy cars they don’t necessarily want to get on the list (Porsche clearly loves that). Others buy at a premium to list (again Porsche loves that as otherwise there would be fewer buyers for all their cars as fewer people would choose Option 1)
At some point it will probably correct itself again due to whatever external factor and everybody will be able to buy at list again (one could argue that Porsche will then build fewer GT models as there will be fewer buyers and the profit margin on those cars is probably less than on standard cars given development cost etc - then we all loose as fewer models to choose from....)
At some point it will probably correct itself again due to whatever external factor and everybody will be able to buy at list again (one could argue that Porsche will then build fewer GT models as there will be fewer buyers and the profit margin on those cars is probably less than on standard cars given development cost etc - then we all loose as fewer models to choose from....)
v8ksn said:
Porsche911R said:
As an example did you goto your dealer and say, you can have my GT3 for £45k if I get a 991 GT3 allocation ?
I asked my OPC for a GT4 allocation, I was rejected. They wouldnt even take a deposit. A couple of months after they were released, I received a 'GREAT NEWS' phonecall offering me a GT4 for well over £100k. With a part exchange offering of £45k for my GT3. I kindly declined the 'opportunity'
Recently, I asked them about part exchanging my GT3 for a 991.2 GT3 and was reluctantly offered less than £40k with no guarantee of a car. The salesperson was just not interested at all.
These two experiences make me think long and hard about what I wanted from a drivers car. Speed is not everything and I feel that modern GT cars are too fast to use sensibly on the road anyway as the speeds the cars can achieve are truly mind boggling. The fun no longer outweighs the risk IMO.
My GT3 is now sold. I'm going back to an air-cooled 911 and will get my kicks at a slower lick
seems a much bigger risk to me.
woollyjoe said:
Porsche911R said:
But you are paying overs for a air-cooled car are you not ? not sure how that is a win esp if you do end up putting another £40k into one after buying.
seems a much bigger risk to me.
He's got a point^seems a much bigger risk to me.
There is a HUGE difference between paying overs for a new GT car than paying X for a used 911 that used to sell for less than X
Would you say the person who buys a Ferrari 250 GTO has paid overs when the car cost less than $20,000 new?
throt said:
Tony 1234 said:
If others are like me I won't be in profit when I sell my car given the amounts lost on purchasing other cars I didn't want.
For those that part ex up for the 3.2RS I feel we will be lucky to get back list for our GT3.2’s ,,,, jmo...v8ksn said:
I disagree.
There is a HUGE difference between paying overs for a new GT car than paying X for a used 911 that used to sell for less than X
Would you say the person who buys a Ferrari 250 GTO has paid overs when the car cost less than $20,000 new?
when is overs not overs then, 996's, 997's GT cars etc etc all at overs now, if they were not at overs maybe new cars would not be at overs !There is a HUGE difference between paying overs for a new GT car than paying X for a used 911 that used to sell for less than X
Would you say the person who buys a Ferrari 250 GTO has paid overs when the car cost less than $20,000 new?
As for classics, while I used the word overs, I really mean over priced as the classic market is dropping.
what I find odd is people will pay overs for a 996, 997 car but not a new one !
Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 25th September 10:49
Porsche911R said:
...what I find odd is people will pay overs for a 996, 997 car but not a new one !
Can anyone really tell the difference between the silhouette of a 991.1 GT3 and a 991.2 GT3? If you were blindfolded and placed in a PDK 991.1 GT3, 991.2 GT3 or even a 991.2 RS would most people be able to tell the difference? I would be willing to bet good money that if you placed most people in a PDK 9.1 and a PDK 9.2 with exactly the same spec, they would not be able to tell you which car they were driving.
People pay 'overs' (as you put it) for the older cars because there are tangible differences between those models and differences in the ways the cars look, drive and handle.
They appeal to different people for different reasons, which I can understand. Whether they are 'worth' what people pay for them is another question.
What I dont understand is what attracts someone to a .2 PDK over a .1 PDK. What does the new car give you over the old one?
If they are driving them whilst blindfolded they most likely wouldn't be driving them for long enough to notice.
I agree though, 991.1 GT3 here and had no interest is swapping. Yes its a better engine, yes the suspension is most likely improved. I get precious little time to drive the car due to other commitments, I don't think I'm missing much.
I agree though, 991.1 GT3 here and had no interest is swapping. Yes its a better engine, yes the suspension is most likely improved. I get precious little time to drive the car due to other commitments, I don't think I'm missing much.
Porsche911R said:
when is overs not overs then
I would suggest "overs" are only payable when there are new cars being made and sold at list price. If you can't get one at list price, you have to pay overs to get one.
Once a model is out of production and all gone, it's just a market price surely?
Porsche911R said:
when is overs not overs then
I would suggest "overs" are only payable when there are new cars being made and sold at list price. If you can't get one at list price, you have to pay overs to get one.
Once a model is out of production and all gone, it's just a market price surely?
v8ksn said:
Can anyone really tell the difference between the silhouette of a 991.1 GT3 and a 991.2 GT3? If you were blindfolded and placed in a PDK 991.1 GT3, 991.2 GT3 or even a 991.2 RS would most people be able to tell the difference?
I would be willing to bet good money that if you placed most people in a PDK 9.1 and a PDK 9.2 with exactly the same spec, they would not be able to tell you which car they were driving.
People pay 'overs' (as you put it) for the older cars because there are tangible differences between those models and differences in the ways the cars look, drive and handle.
They appeal to different people for different reasons, which I can understand. Whether they are 'worth' what people pay for them is another question.
What I dont understand is what attracts someone to a .2 PDK over a .1 PDK. What does the new car give you over the old one?
I would definitely know what car is what. Had the .1 for 40 months and my .2 for 5 month. They both feel and sound very different ....I would say it’s like saying there is no difference between steels and ceramics, obviously there is...I would be willing to bet good money that if you placed most people in a PDK 9.1 and a PDK 9.2 with exactly the same spec, they would not be able to tell you which car they were driving.
People pay 'overs' (as you put it) for the older cars because there are tangible differences between those models and differences in the ways the cars look, drive and handle.
They appeal to different people for different reasons, which I can understand. Whether they are 'worth' what people pay for them is another question.
What I dont understand is what attracts someone to a .2 PDK over a .1 PDK. What does the new car give you over the old one?
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