2ND Batch GT3RS Nothing Nichts Bugger All
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Taffy66 said:
Porsche911R said:
plus it seems a no Brexit deal now, they might not even bother with a few RS UK sales when they can sell the cars into other markets with zero work.
What you say is a distinct possibility depending on the Brexit outcome..The ROW especially the US are clamouring for more RSs..Anyone with a Manual GT3 is daft to consider one unless he/she doesn't get on with the Manual box.I'm on the verge of buying a nice 458 which has distracted me from the RS..
gunner said:
for what little it's worth my dealer told me this week that there would not be a second batch...just my personal opinion but for such a small amount of rhd cars it would seem an awful lot of trouble for Porsche to go too when surely 992, Cayenne etc. would take precedence...
But they aren't just producing rhd cars for any 2nd batch of the RS... it's supposed to be a (decently large) run of cars for Europe (UK inclusive).Spoke to dealer I previously used today and exact response as my dealer...cars will appear next summer. Both dealers are sitting on deposits and have told their 918/GT2RS customers they have cars coming...unlikely thing to do if they weren’t certain of cars.
I’m turning my current 3 into a Weissach but won’t be changing until car is 110% def coming.
I’m turning my current 3 into a Weissach but won’t be changing until car is 110% def coming.
I heard from a fairly reliable source that they were supposedly coming but no confirmation of any date.
I think it’s a case of something else needing to happen first, maybe related to the testing and until that’s signed off, they are in the plan but they can’t commit to customers. If they were definitely going to make them at a certain point, then why not just make the allocation?
Also a thread on rennlist about delays to US cars for quality issues.......
I think it’s a case of something else needing to happen first, maybe related to the testing and until that’s signed off, they are in the plan but they can’t commit to customers. If they were definitely going to make them at a certain point, then why not just make the allocation?
Also a thread on rennlist about delays to US cars for quality issues.......
Edited by DT398 on Sunday 16th December 08:06
They will come but fear fewer and all Weissach I suspect , as to deposits they will not take them , which is a directive. This will follow same pattern , call to spec and pay by next day as it leads to less issues . Interesting as with jurnos a real marmite car . Some love it and others are not at ease with it .
hunter 66 said:
They will come but fear fewer and all Weissach I suspect , as to deposits they will not take them , which is a directive. This will follow same pattern , call to spec and pay by next day as it leads to less issues . Interesting as with jurnos a real marmite car . Some love it and others are not at ease with it .
Good morning..Nail on head regarding second RS batch...Can you clarify the bit about journos divided on the RS..?Yes, no deposits taken. They know who will get an allocation ( depending on number of slots ) before they get the actual build slots. Phone call, deposit taken, skeleton spec online to them and then the OPC will submit it. Then before lock down any tweaks can and will be done to spec, it’s that simple.
Don’t understand the logic behind them all being WP cars. These parts are the very ones that have caused a lot of availability hassles in the supply chain unless they are just taking the opportunity to leg people over for £15k worth of cf bling? Or maybe they are only testing the WP spec car for the new emissions regs? Basically, no idea!
Cars going to the USA atm are a mix of both. Yes, they have left the RS on the UK configurator but the WP isn’t there at the moment.
I still think they are waiting on the outcome of something else before they are confirmed at all.
Cars going to the USA atm are a mix of both. Yes, they have left the RS on the UK configurator but the WP isn’t there at the moment.
I still think they are waiting on the outcome of something else before they are confirmed at all.
Edited by DT398 on Sunday 16th December 09:47
Taffy66 said:
Good morning..Nail on head regarding second RS batch...Can you clarify the bit about journos divided on the RS..?
Too hard for the road, this time the RS with double the spring rates is back to a track performance car which you can use on the road, but the normal GT3 would be better and prob the faster more rounded road car. RS hardly ever wins any driver car awards as you cannot get to enjoy them :-(
But comes into its own on track now as an RS should over the GT3.
Porsche911R said:
Too hard for the road, this time the RS with double the spring rates is back to a track performance car which you can use on the road, but the normal GT3 would be better and prob the faster more rounded road car.
RS hardly ever wins any driver car awards as you cannot get to enjoy them :-(
But comes into its own on track now as an RS should over the GT3.
I'd hang on to your manual GT3 if i was you..The new 718 GT4 with a GPF strangled engine will feel like a castrated horse compared to the full blooded pedigree stallion which the GT3 is..RS hardly ever wins any driver car awards as you cannot get to enjoy them :-(
But comes into its own on track now as an RS should over the GT3.
Any thoughts on the effect the GPF will have on the second batch RS..?
I'm sort of figuring that a full spec WP RS will be £180K plus and at that level is it better to buy something like a Performante..My Gt3 cost £131k but is a WP RS worth £50K more..?
Methinks not..!
Porsche911R said:
Taffy66 said:
Good morning..Nail on head regarding second RS batch...Can you clarify the bit about journos divided on the RS..?
Too hard for the road, this time the RS with double the spring rates is back to a track performance car which you can use on the road, but the normal GT3 would be better and prob the faster more rounded road car. RS hardly ever wins any driver car awards as you cannot get to enjoy them :-(
But comes into its own on track now as an RS should over the GT3.
The regular GT3 is a “better and prob faster more rounded road car” ? How do you make that assessment other than the fact that you own the regular car and not the RS?
Oh wait, the GT3 is more compliant meaning it will float over the bumps where the RS is so hard it will bounce off the road and burst into flames at the first bumpy corner.
Not even sure how you could work out which is the faster road car either, it’s just meaningless. The Gen2 RS is great on the road and epic on track. Better than the regular car in every way imho, and so it should be.
DT398 said:
Can anyone provide a link to these mixed reviews of the Gen2 RS?
The regular GT3 is a “better and prob faster more rounded road car” ? How do you make that assessment other than the fact that you own the regular car and not the RS?
Oh wait, the GT3 is more compliant meaning it will float over the bumps where the RS is so hard it will bounce off the road and burst into flames at the first bumpy corner.
Not even sure how you could work out which is the faster road car either, it’s just meaningless. The Gen2 RS is great on the road and epic on track. Better than the regular car in every way imho, and so it should be.
Don’t shoot the messenger, loads of reviews on these cars, I even think the standard is a tad too hard for UK use when on it. Nothing to do with what I own, I cannot press the PASM on as an example. The regular GT3 is a “better and prob faster more rounded road car” ? How do you make that assessment other than the fact that you own the regular car and not the RS?
Oh wait, the GT3 is more compliant meaning it will float over the bumps where the RS is so hard it will bounce off the road and burst into flames at the first bumpy corner.
Not even sure how you could work out which is the faster road car either, it’s just meaningless. The Gen2 RS is great on the road and epic on track. Better than the regular car in every way imho, and so it should be.
And look at the vid every one hated by the car guys the Touring did not like those side roads much.
Even in past RS models cars like the Cayman R beat them as drivers cars in auto cars best drivers car.
This year the RS did not make the top 3, last year the standard GT3 won.
They did say it was flawless on the track though, but at a price.
To quote “ too stiff to flow with the road”
As for GT3 RS vs performante vs 600lt in car this month GT3 RS WINS that little review stating macca are dull lol . But did have nice steering.
Is what it is, you have to get over it ! RS is back to being the best track cars, GT3 best roads cars, choose you weapon don't get upset because the one to be seen in is not as good for road use.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 16th December 13:32
I don’t have to get over anything. Is that your killer aregument? Get over it?
I guess the ultimate test of road car pace would be the Nurburgring, so are you suggesting the regular GT3 is quicker round there than the RS, all else being equal?
Please provide a link to “loads of reviews” calling the RS road car capabilities into question. Single biggest issue with these cars on the road would be width I would suggest and the regular GT3 has almost the same issue in that regard.
In the end, I don’t care too much, RS is perfect for me but your endless spamming of a regular red manual 991.2GT3 as the second coming is seriously irritating and you don’t seem to realise that this kind of tedious repetition is why so many on here get so confrontational with you. This was a thread about the second run of RS and you managed (yet again) to get the same yawn-inducing BS in here (for the gazillionth time) about how the regular car is better on the road.
I guess the ultimate test of road car pace would be the Nurburgring, so are you suggesting the regular GT3 is quicker round there than the RS, all else being equal?
Please provide a link to “loads of reviews” calling the RS road car capabilities into question. Single biggest issue with these cars on the road would be width I would suggest and the regular GT3 has almost the same issue in that regard.
In the end, I don’t care too much, RS is perfect for me but your endless spamming of a regular red manual 991.2GT3 as the second coming is seriously irritating and you don’t seem to realise that this kind of tedious repetition is why so many on here get so confrontational with you. This was a thread about the second run of RS and you managed (yet again) to get the same yawn-inducing BS in here (for the gazillionth time) about how the regular car is better on the road.
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