What’s the right price for a 991.2 GT3 ?

What’s the right price for a 991.2 GT3 ?

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Cheib

16,784 posts

120 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Taffy66 said:
Cheib said:
Had no idea 458’s were that but I think my yearning is more for something older from Porsche....just think the contrast would be greater with my GT3. I don’t really want another modern car that I can’t really get th most out of it unless I am on track somewhere. I am loving doing track driving/tuition in my GT3 and getting somewhere close to it’s grip limits in a safe place.
You need to read the recent thread i started regarding 911 Backdates...I've gone off the idea for a while as i have other things arriving soon which will impoverish me enough..
I’ve already had a good read! I’m also thinking about an original car as well as looking at backdates. Thinking the latter is possibly less of a minefield if you can find a good car/someone to thoroughly pull it apart before buying.

breadvan

1,405 posts

113 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Cheib said:
This is my cars interior....I've got the painted vent surrounds which again I really like as they're discrete...don't like the vents themselves painted or the painted dials in yellow or red which I think are pretty awful.


I'll admit knowing I was unlikely to loose money, I spent money creating an interior as 'plain' as possible to focus on the dials and driving. this included black painted vents and leather inserts. I loved it.......




breadvan

1,405 posts

113 months

Thursday 12th September
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Actually, that poses a question.

I suspect the last generation may have been over-specced because of the buoyant market. I think the latest GT4 and Spyders and forthcoming GT3 may be more conservatively optioned.

I wonder if suggesting to your OPC going overboard with extras will put you in a better position for allocation?

Just a thought.......

Porsche911R

17,324 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th September
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breadvan said:
Actually, that poses a question.

I suspect the last generation may have been over-specced because of the buoyant market. I think the latest GT4 and Spyders and forthcoming GT3 may be more conservatively optioned.

I wonder if suggesting to your OPC going overboard with extras will put you in a better position for allocation?

Just a thought.......
with Porsche you have to spec at least £10k to get a car to match a Ford level of spec on a Fiesta.

the big item is PCCB and paints with Porsche.

My Golfs got more tech and it all came free, and I spent £24k on Extra's on the GT3 and it's not close to the Golf.
that's £17.5k extra just to get a basic level of spec without PCCB's !! and I did not go mad on options at all and my colour was free.

you skimp on spec you cannot sell the car and also while owning the car you are unhappy.

I just think that's the price of Porsche, and options are cheaper than Ferrari,Lambo or Macca's.

Their headline figures are bullst, no one bought a £64k GT4 or a £111k GT3 even the guys who skimped the spec right down.

browngt3

766 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th September
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breadvan said:
Actually, that poses a question.

I suspect the last generation may have been over-specced because of the buoyant market. I think the latest GT4 and Spyders and forthcoming GT3 may be more conservatively optioned.

I wonder if suggesting to your OPC going overboard with extras will put you in a better position for allocation?

Just a thought.......
Not really, they don't make as much on options as you think. Mine wasn't bothered how I specced mine

Cheib

16,784 posts

120 months

Thursday 12th September
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browngt3 said:
breadvan said:
Actually, that poses a question.

I suspect the last generation may have been over-specced because of the buoyant market. I think the latest GT4 and Spyders and forthcoming GT3 may be more conservatively optioned.

I wonder if suggesting to your OPC going overboard with extras will put you in a better position for allocation?

Just a thought.......
Not really, they don't make as much on options as you think. Mine wasn't bothered how I specced mine
Not sure about that. If they have two customers...one who they think will spend £10k on spec and another £30k I am pretty sure the £30k customer gets the allocation.


browngt3

766 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th September
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Cheib said:
Not sure about that. If they have two customers...one who they think will spend £10k on spec and another £30k I am pretty sure the £30k customer gets the allocation.
That's logical but did they ever ask anyone what options they will take before deciding allocations?

breadvan

1,405 posts

113 months

Thursday 12th September
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Porsche911R said:
with Porsche you have to spec at least £10k to get a car to match a Ford level of spec on a Fiesta.

the big item is PCCB and paints with Porsche.

My Golfs got more tech and it all came free, and I spent £24k on Extra's on the GT3 and it's not close to the Golf.
that's £17.5k extra just to get a basic level of spec without PCCB's !! and I did not go mad on options at all and my colour was free.

you skimp on spec you cannot sell the car and also while owning the car you are unhappy.

I just think that's the price of Porsche, and options are cheaper than Ferrari,Lambo or Macca's.

Their headline figures are bullst, no one bought a £64k GT4 or a £111k GT3 even the guys who skimped the spec right down.
I’m with you about the Golf. Cracking car. Me on Monday........


Digga

27,566 posts

228 months

Thursday 12th September
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browngt3 said:
Digga said:
Dials and stitching aside, this is a sorry tale for an OPC sourced, nearly new 991.2 GT3: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=135746&postda...
A very sorry tale indeed. The driver was both lucky and unlucky depending on which way you look at it. Thing is a catastrophic failure can happen to any car but thankfully rarely. Don't think tracking it would have influenced things as Porsches rigorous testing regime should have ironed out any weakness. As I say that I'm thinking about the gen 1 engine issues....

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
For sure. Barring catastrophic failure (not impossible if you source metal components cheaply enough!) the failure would look to be down to something prematurely wearing (again, IME possible from poor specification) or coming loose.

Given the latter is most likely, you have to wonder whether the part was even checked on the used PDI? Certainly, the independent service specialist I use would have been looking at those sorts of potential wear/geometry points as a matter of course on a service.

browngt3

766 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th September
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Digga said:
or sure. Barring catastrophic failure (not impossible if you source metal components cheaply enough!) the failure would look to be down to something prematurely wearing (again, IME possible from poor specification) or coming loose.

Given the latter is most likely, you have to wonder whether the part was even checked on the used PDI? Certainly, the independent service specialist I use would have been looking at those sorts of potential wear/geometry points as a matter of course on a service.
It's a good point actually. Mine is coming up for its first service next month so will mention it

Cheib

16,784 posts

120 months

Thursday 12th September
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browngt3 said:
Cheib said:
Not sure about that. If they have two customers...one who they think will spend £10k on spec and another £30k I am pretty sure the £30k customer gets the allocation.
That's logical but did they ever ask anyone what options they will take before deciding allocations?
Well given anyone with a GT3 allocation has a buying history they probably have a very good idea.

Porsche911R

17,324 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th September
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Cheib said:
browngt3 said:
Cheib said:
Not sure about that. If they have two customers...one who they think will spend £10k on spec and another £30k I am pretty sure the £30k customer gets the allocation.
That's logical but did they ever ask anyone what options they will take before deciding allocations?
Well given anyone with a GT3 allocation has a buying history they probably have a very good idea.
no they ask you which lemon in the show room will you buy :-)

Atm it seems those are pre order Cayman T's

offer to buy that and another 2 lemons and you might get a slot...

or slip the sales guy £30k

take your pick.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 12th September 14:38

av185

9,159 posts

72 months

Thursday 12th September
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Don't forget the £10k Porsche £199.99 watch.

Cheib

16,784 posts

120 months

Thursday 12th September
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breadvan said:
Actually, that poses a question.

I suspect the last generation may have been over-specced because of the buoyant market. I think the latest GT4 and Spyders and forthcoming GT3 may be more conservatively optioned.

I wonder if suggesting to your OPC going overboard with extras will put you in a better position for allocation?

Just a thought.......
I went overboard with my spec...but that's because I was lucky to get an allocation and I really can't see me selling it. Wasn't because I thougtht it was going to be worth £50k more than I paid...if I was worried about that I would have specced a Touring.

breadvan

1,405 posts

113 months

Thursday 12th September
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Cheib said:
breadvan said:
Actually, that poses a question.

I suspect the last generation may have been over-specced because of the buoyant market. I think the latest GT4 and Spyders and forthcoming GT3 may be more conservatively optioned.

I wonder if suggesting to your OPC going overboard with extras will put you in a better position for allocation?

Just a thought.......
I went overboard with my spec...but that's because I was lucky to get an allocation and I really can't see me selling it. Wasn't because I thougtht it was going to be worth £50k more than I paid...if I was worried about that I would have specced a Touring.
I don’t mean speccing for resale, I’m talking about having the freedom to tick all the options I’ve previously left alone (like painted vents) at a time when the net cost was likely to be minimal.

Ive bought many new Porsches over recent years and because of my desire to churn I’ve had an eye on the options. The GT3 gave me a chance to go crazy.

Market conditions will definitely influence the options on my next car because I know I’m never interested in keeping it.

IMI A

6,889 posts

146 months

Friday 13th September
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Porsche911R said:
coloured stitching is so 2015 imo today it looks a bit gash and very 1990's to me, it now really dates the cars and feels a bit rich mans chav.

imo ofcourse :-) and don't get me started about the red seat stripe or coloured air vents !!!

no one could sell cars with coloured air vents or trim in the past , and that will happen again, in fact already does with coloured trim in the 981 Spyder market "lemons" stuck at the very lowest prices but nice spec cars bar that one stupid mistake option !!

tone it down guys we are not on the Lambo forum where you need to tick the gash look at my car options , people will rue the day come sale time for sure !
It's not the brand image !! lets keep that over at Lambo owners....
SWMBO begs to differ re deviated stitching and coloured air vent strips and coloured seat webbing biglaugh

She also offers you again a timed lap around any circuit of your choice your GT3 v her 911 cab - come on David it will be fun maybe one of the EVO run track days? hehe




Porsche911R

17,324 posts

210 months

Friday 13th September
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breadvan said:
I don’t mean speccing for resale, I’m talking about having the freedom to tick all the options I’ve previously left alone (like painted vents) at a time when the net cost was likely to be minimal.

Ive bought many new Porsches over recent years and because of my desire to churn I’ve had an eye on the options. The GT3 gave me a chance to go crazy.

Market conditions will definitely influence the options on my next car because I know I’m never interested in keeping it.
but £10k on a Porker only gets the very basics options. So that's the starting point !!

Juno

3,653 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th September
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Mine sold at just under £150k in 7 days at my OPC,spec is everything

Taffy66

2,690 posts

47 months

Saturday 14th September
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Juno said:
Mine sold at just under £150k in 7 days at my OPC,spec is everything
Exactly same story for mine back in May..Different story today methinks.!

Juno

3,653 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th September
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Taffy66 said:
Juno said:
Mine sold at just under £150k in 7 days at my OPC,spec is everything
Exactly same story for mine back in May..Different story today methinks.!
Mine was end of June so maybe 5k less now