Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

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prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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I’m in the process of looking for a new car, I currently drive a BMW 640D which is worth around £14-17k trade in.
I’ve always dreamed of owning a 911 and now I’m in my 40’s it’s the perfect midlife crisis time to consider buying one ??

My budget is around £60k and I would trade my BM in and maybe put some cash additional down if needed but I’d need to do it on a PCP.
My concern is that having looked at the cars available for the money, they are 2010-2013 which is quite old when I can pick up a decent brand new BWM or Audi – granted it’s not a 911 but there’s a lot to be said for reliability and practicality.

I don’t do a lot of miles probably 10-15k mixed with business and pleasure but I have 2 kids so it’s not going to be really practical for much other than the school run, the wife has a C class so it’s not too much of problem for family trips as we’d just use that.
My knees aren't great so I need an automatic and I've read that the PDK box is what I should look for but no idea what's in budget

My heart wants one very much but my head is saying no.
I did look at the Panamera and have test driven the new one which is a great car and the kit and spec are brilliant so I’m mindful that an older 911 won’t have those toys and I need to avoid an older car that costs too much to run.

In reading what I’ve just written I think I’ve talked myself out of it, but then I might not be here tomorrow and would have missed out…

Welcome any thoughts and would like to hear from anyone who may have been in a similar position to me.


Edited by prismv on Wednesday 10th July 09:52

DJMC

2,497 posts

48 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Living the dream?

What's that worth to you?

How much will it annoy you, in your new BMW, when a 911 passes by and you think... "I could have had one of those, never mind."

prismv

Original Poster:

130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Yes exactly and this is where my heads at, I can live with the deprecation, I lost 20k over the last 4 years on my 6 series, but having driven the Panemera with all the tech and driver aids I know I won't get those in a much older 911

kev.RS

210 posts

152 months

Wednesday 10th July
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You are right that you could get a brand new BMW or Audi brand new for £60k but next year would be worth mid £40k’s as they are just a mass produced product.
A 991.1 would suit your needs as it still has 4 seats to keep that box ticked and still have some toys.
I think this would suit you pretty well as low miles meaning that 15k miles a year won’t kill the value and if you look at other cars you could pay similar money for cars with 30k miles.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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That car is a beauty and looks great

Porsche911R

17,291 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th July
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tricky as I don't know what you like.

2010-2013 models are great cars "drivers cars" so to speak but the PDK is a bit rough as it's 1st gen and the infotainment is shocking.
manual sell and are sort after in the 997.2 range, PDK are not so if you want to move it one you will take a bath on it or it will hand around.

you buy a 911 2010 model to drive and it will keep you well and £45k gets you in a nice one.

991 are a bit dead feeling over the 997.2 cars but the PDK and PCM is a massive upgrade and look 2019 modern, put a private plate on a early 991.1 car and every one will think you have a £100k car. not really drivers cars now though.

Cayman GTS in PDK is a great choice, but not if you want to do the 911 thing.

£60k is a great figure

997.2 C2S
991.1 C2S
981 Cayman GTS
BMW M4 CS
BMW M2 comp
Lotus Evora 410 sport.

I think I would take a BMW M4 CS over a 991.1 car. a 997.2 as the drivers car, and the Cayman 981 GTS cover the inbetween best of both.

best value = BMW m4 CS, it's quite a special car and listed at well over £100k, you get a like new one and have 2.5 years warranty left for a £40k saving and will hold value better over a 991.1 imo over 2 years as they are much rarer and the M4 comp prices will always make sure the CS is king top dollar.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 10th July 10:21

IMI A

6,870 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th July
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With that budget I think you’re pretty close to to buying a base 991.2 Carrera. Has everything you want and will have manufacturers warranty too. Why buy something from 2010 to 2013 when you can buy nearly new with Apple car play etc etc. No brainer wink

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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IMI A said:
With that budget I think you’re pretty close to to buying a base 991.2 Carrera. Has everything you want and will have manufacturers warranty too. Why buy something from 2010 to 2013 when you can buy nearly new with Apple car play etc etc. No brainer wink

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Love this, does it have rear seats?
Do you think I’d get them down as I’m struggling to go over £60k

sealtt

2,472 posts

103 months

Wednesday 10th July
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It sounds like you really want this car, I think you should go for it. Don’t kid yourself with an alternative when your heart is set on something. Now to find the right deal...

interstellar

1,024 posts

91 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Yes all 911 non GT cars have 4 seats even the cabriolets although they are very small.


prismv

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130 posts

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Wednesday 10th July
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sealtt said:
It sounds like you really want this car, I think you should go for it. Don’t kid yourself with an alternative when your heart is set on something. Now to find the right deal...
It's looks great.
Do they not have the 4 exhausts anymore?

prismv

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Wednesday 10th July
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sealtt said:
It sounds like you really want this car, I think you should go for it. Don’t kid yourself with an alternative when your heart is set on something. Now to find the right deal...
What would I do the warranty for this?
Do I need one

carcrazypop

521 posts

109 months

Wednesday 10th July
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kev.RS said:
You are right that you could get a brand new BMW or Audi brand new for £60k but next year would be worth mid £40k’s as they are just a mass produced product.
A 991.1 would suit your needs as it still has 4 seats to keep that box ticked and still have some toys.
I think this would suit you pretty well as low miles meaning that 15k miles a year won’t kill the value and if you look at other cars you could pay similar money for cars with 30k miles.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I think this car looks ideal and as it's from a Porsche Dealership, you'll get the Porsche 2-year warranty so no major expenditure for 2 years apart from servicing, tyres etc. From my own experience, I think coming from a BMW you'll be happier with a 991 rather than a 997 and with the 991.1, you still get the NA flat-6 IMHO.
Good luck whatever you go for but beware, 911's get under your skin and you might be hooked for life !!

sealtt

2,472 posts

103 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
sealtt said:
It sounds like you really want this car, I think you should go for it. Don’t kid yourself with an alternative when your heart is set on something. Now to find the right deal...
What would I do the warranty for this?
Do I need one
Buy Porsche approved used and then you get warranty included. It’s a good warranty too, they’ll take care of it.

If you like that white and red one you should make a trip to the dealer to test it and see if you can get it for £60k.

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Thanks I’m nowhere near them sadly and have used up all my credit at my local Porsche dealer, test driving the Panemera but not proceeding

I’m guessing I’ll need to try and find a similar car unless the dealer can transfer it.

I wouldn’t go for the red interior by choice but could grow to like it

Would they really drop £4K though?

MrVert

3,105 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th July
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I would personally steer clear of the red interior, you'll take an age to re-sell it when you want to move it on, or be bid low by the dealer on a px deal.

For approx. £60k, I would say something like this is better value with low miles and OPC Warranty for 24 months.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Just missing PSE (sports exhaust).

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Thanks it’s just a bit older than I had hoped for really

MrVert

3,105 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th July
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This one's a 2015 car with Aerokit. Nice.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

carcrazypop

521 posts

109 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
Thanks it’s just a bit older than I had hoped for really
This is a one owner car with just 8k miles and 2 year Porsche warranty, I'm pretty sure that it will be like a new car.

prismv

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Wednesday 10th July
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It’s just the interior and the functionality that comes with it