Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

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DJMC

2,498 posts

48 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
Yes exactly and this is where my heads at, I can live with the deprecation, I lost 20k over the last 4 years on my 6 series, but having driven the Panemera with all the tech and driver aids I know I won't get those in a much older 911


My 2014 981 tech suits me just fine.

If you ARE techie, fine. If not, stick to something intuitive unless you must have the latest gadget. If you must, rather than enjoying the driving experience, then buy a BMW. They have good tech but not the best of the premium brands or so I hear.

But DO spend your £60k on a 911. You'll find one. It'll hold its value better than a BMW. You'll be smiling.

MrVert

3,106 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
It’s just the interior and the functionality that comes with it
In what way? The 2015 car has SatNav, Bluetooth, Sunroof, Adaptive Lights, 14 way electric sports seats, pretty good spec I'd say for a Carrera. Black interior wears well also.

What more do you want from a car? scratchchin

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Ah ok my mistake I thought it was 2013, does the 2015 car have the Apple car play etc?

What’s the ride like?
My Bmw with run flats and m sport suspension is really hard.

Is the Porsche air suspension worth looking at?

MrVert

3,106 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th July
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They ride well for a sports car, better than a 6 Series on runflats.

You can get Appleplay fitted, theres another thread on here from earlier today, about £450 and works well apparently.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

You can't get air suspension on a 911...

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Thanks so is this an option or is it fitted from 2016 as standard?

Also I know this isn’t going to be good but what’s the average mpg?

I’ve seen a nice one in budget but mileage is 35k is that a problem?

MrVert

3,106 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th July
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I don't think you can get Appleplay fitted to any 991.1 version of the 911 from Porsche, only aftermarket solution available. However if you're buying from Porsche (OPC) then it'll invalidate their warranty.

MPG average about 22 I'd say, 30mpg on a decent long run with mixed driving.

As with all Porsche, buy on condition & history. For me 35k miles not a problem if in good condition.

Edited by MrVert on Wednesday 10th July 13:15

prismv

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Wednesday 10th July
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prismv

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IMI A

6,876 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
Apple car play is an OEM option on the gen 2 991 smile

Yes something like this car last of the normally aspirated cars and will probably never drop below £50k for a good one. You miss out on the updated OEM tech of the gen 2 car.

I'd choose the gen 1 like the example you've posted or one of these one with lower miles but have to say as a daily the gen 2 hard to beat and faster too. The exhaust set up on gen 2 depnds on which exhaust specified. The ovals like on the white car are non sport exhaust. The gen 1 will give you more of a traditional 911 experience IMO. Its noise is fantastic especially cars with power kit and sports exhaust.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

You go into an OPC and bid £60k I think you'll be owning the cars. Very slow at the mo.

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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IMI A said:
prismv said:
Apple car play is an OEM option on the gen 2 991 smile

Yes something like this car last of the normally aspirated cars and will probably never drop below £50k for a good one. You miss out on the updated OEM tech of the gen 2 car.

I'd choose the gen 1 like the example you've posted or one of these one with lower miles but have to say as a daily the gen 2 hard to beat and faster too. The exhaust set up on gen 2 depnds on which exhaust specified. The ovals like on the white car are non sport exhaust. The gen 1 will give you more of a traditional 911 experience IMO. Its noise is fantastic especially cars with power kit and sports exhaust.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

You go into an OPC and bid £60k I think you'll be owning the cars. Very slow at the mo.
Thanks I’m not sure I understand the difference between a gen1 and gen2?

How do I check which is the gen 2 model please?

IMI A

6,876 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
IMI A said:
prismv said:
Apple car play is an OEM option on the gen 2 991 smile

Yes something like this car last of the normally aspirated cars and will probably never drop below £50k for a good one. You miss out on the updated OEM tech of the gen 2 car.

I'd choose the gen 1 like the example you've posted or one of these one with lower miles but have to say as a daily the gen 2 hard to beat and faster too. The exhaust set up on gen 2 depnds on which exhaust specified. The ovals like on the white car are non sport exhaust. The gen 1 will give you more of a traditional 911 experience IMO. Its noise is fantastic especially cars with power kit and sports exhaust.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

You go into an OPC and bid £60k I think you'll be owning the cars. Very slow at the mo.
Thanks I’m not sure I understand the difference between a gen1 and gen2?

How do I check which is the gen 2 model please?
I believe 2016 models onwards are the turbo gen 2 models. All entry level 991 gen 2 have turbos hence sound terrible but go like the wind. 2015 cars are normally aspirated gen 1 cars as a rule of thumb and the noise at full chat with a sports exhaust is lovely and to confuse things you'll find some late registered 2016 gen 1 cars. You can easily tell which gen it is as the gen 2 has little air vents on the side of the rear bumper to let all the hot air out.

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Thanks that’s clear although I’m guessing for my first ever 911 the gen 2 would sound great to me as I’d have nothing to compare against

IMI A

6,876 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th July
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prismv said:
Thanks that’s clear although I’m guessing for my first ever 911 the gen 2 would sound great to me as I’d have nothing to compare against
Thats a fair point. Drive both. You'll know straight away which one you prefer. Maybe just me but the gen 2 feels a bit better put together too and is slightly prettier.

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Yep I’ll trawl the adds to see which is the sweet spot on price v spec v age.

I think I will discount any red leather versions for the reasons listed before

nunpuncher

1,295 posts

70 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Mileage will affect price but most 911s will live to do very high mileage. So 35k miles is no issue on any 911.

You're not buying a phone or a TV here so don't get too hung up on tech. There are cost effective solutions for anything you can't live without. I went from a brand new car with radar cruise control, adaptive suspension, android auto/Apple Carplay, park assist, virtual cockpit.... all sorts of pish, to a 20 year old 911 with no trip computer, no cruise control, no parking sensors and the worst satnav system ever. I don't even notice when I'm driving it. In fact, I don't even turn the stereo on as it ruins the sound from the sports exhaust.

A 911 is all about the drive.

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Thanks that makes sense

How do you find long drives say 3-4 hours
Are they doable?

Also how much is the tax on the Carreras?


johnwilliams77

5,655 posts

48 months

Wednesday 10th July
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I would find using that car everyday a bit annoying unless I really didn’t care about it. So unless 60k was a drop in the ocean I’d rather have a couple of cars to keep the specialness up

prismv

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130 posts

35 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Well I do have the wifes car but other than that I would need this for work but I don’t drive everyday

I may have trips which might be 3-4hours but they are occasional

I suppose the trade off is it’s a lot of car and cash to sit on the drive, this is why I favoured the Panemera for more practical use everyday but then it’s not a 911...

Jefferson Steelflex

679 posts

44 months

Wednesday 10th July
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I picked up my 2016 Carrera a few weeks ago, already one of the best cars I've ever had - fast, comfy, etc. You can easily cover long distances as the seats are so good and the standard ride is great.

The Gen 2 is easy to filter for on Autotrader, etc. by just specifying engine size, as they are all 3.0 litres whereas the Gen 1 are 3.4 or 3.8.

Road tax is £265 on mine, so good enough and i'm getting 30mpg mixed driving (not that it matters).

I looked at the white one at East London a few months ago, it was ok but the spec was a bit light for me. There's probably a deal to be done on that as they've had ti for a while, but contradictory to earlier post the OPCs i've spoken to haven't been in a rush to sell.

Push the budget a bit and OPC Bournemouth have a cracking 991.2 Carrera in Agate Grey with red leather, which has a superb spec. They've had it since last November and have dropped the price a lot recently. They were willing to do a deal but i decided against manual in the end.

One last thing, I got OPC finance @ 6.4% which I took to get the price a bit lower. They seem more willing to deal if you take their finance offer. Good luck

GG33

1,019 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Two things to consider....

1. You are a very long time dead.
2. Do you want to get to 80 wishing you had always bought that 911?

I live my life to maxims similar to these.. :-)

GG33