Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

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R.Sole

12,241 posts

206 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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prismv said:
dgswk said:
R.Sole said:
Well done,what options are you going for?
Yeah, come on then, what did you spec? If your anything like me, you’ll spend a few more k’s by the time you lock down.... smile
About £15k worth of options !!
Plenty of man maths has gone on from your initial post.


IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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R.Sole said:
prismv said:
dgswk said:
R.Sole said:
Well done,what options are you going for?
Yeah, come on then, what did you spec? If your anything like me, you’ll spend a few more k’s by the time you lock down.... smile
About £15k worth of options !!
Plenty of man maths has gone on from your initial post.
He was at £26k at one stage - quality hehe

I have never in my life seen so many different options to choose from - everything that used to be free like alcantara head lining they now charge for.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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So OP - what's the spec?

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Nice!!

WCZ

10,517 posts

194 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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fair play for making the man maths work there!

I personally wouldn't have been able to look past something like this: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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WCZ said:
fair play for making the man maths work there!

I personally wouldn't have been able to look past something like this: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
For that you'd be paying 62% of the MRSP for a 13 yr old car with 44k miles.

You start getting big bills at circa 60k miles. Fine if its a weekend play thing but as a dd covering 10-15k miles a year I'd imagine it would cost masses in depreciation and masses in running costs if my running costs over 90k miles in one of these is anything to go by.

After three years and add another 45k miles so 90k miles/16 yr old 997 turbo whats it worth? Its not even an exciting weekend car without modding the hell out if it. Just a quiet fast autobahn stormer out of the box.

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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Look at the subject title..you add 30-45k miles to that 997 its worth £35k and you’ll have had some big bills without question.

By comparison after 3 yrs you’re easily going to get £60k back for a £96k well specced 992 Carrera. £12k a year to do 10-15k miles a year not too bad?

Not sure where you get £50k depreciation no way. Need to take your GCSE in man maths again. You only live once and it’s a lovely feeling ordering any new car but a new 911 one of those must do things. I suggest you go drive one. A 997 turbo feels like a flintstone 911 by comparison. I dd a 997 turbo when in Blighty bought new in a similar way to OP buying 992. If doing the daily grind today I’d go 992 IMO. Enjoy dreaming smile

prismv

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155 posts

90 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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Figured I’m a long time dead and have always wanted one.
Thought if I was going to do it properly I should get the new one.

I know the car will drop in value like a 5$ hoe in the 3-4 years I have it but I’ll live with that as it’s part of the ownership.

I have a decent personal car allowance which covers my monthly payments and with the base C2 I can spec it just as I want to a decent level and still make a good saving on the C2S, ok it may be less that than that model when I move it on but it is what it is.

If I don’t like it or it’s not for me I’ll trade it early for a Panemera or something else, looking at the used values on the C2S cars at the moment they are still fairly close to list.

If I lose a bit of cash, so be it, but I can cross off having owned my dream car before 44.

nunpuncher

3,378 posts

125 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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I'd say you're sensible rather than tight.

WCZ

10,517 posts

194 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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IMI A said:
For that you'd be paying 62% of the MRSP for a 13 yr old car with 44k miles.

You start getting big bills at circa 60k miles. Fine if its a weekend play thing but as a dd covering 10-15k miles a year I'd imagine it would cost masses in depreciation and masses in running costs if my running costs over 90k miles in one of these is anything to go by.

After three years and add another 45k miles so 90k miles/16 yr old 997 turbo whats it worth? Its not even an exciting weekend car without modding the hell out if it. Just a quiet fast autobahn stormer out of the box.
true, with the mileage op is doing then it'd make more sense to get a cheaper example such as:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

£47k / 43,000 miles

considering the cheapest examples on PH are

£43k / 123,000 miles
£42k / 92,000 miles

I expect you'd barely lose any money on it

nunpuncher

3,378 posts

125 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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No, no, that wouldn't do at all. It's old and we all know that by the time a car gets close to 100k miles its as good as scrap and by the time its over or near 50k miles almost every component will need replacing plus if you're doing the mileage 50k is only a kick in the balls off 100k and therefor... scrap.

The trouble with this thread is that the title is wrong. The question was never "can I afford a decent 911 for every day use". The answer to that was always "Yes". The question has always been "what's the newest 911 I can afford?"

The OP is definitely buying the right car for him.

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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WCZ said:
IMI A said:
For that you'd be paying 62% of the MRSP for a 13 yr old car with 44k miles.

You start getting big bills at circa 60k miles. Fine if its a weekend play thing but as a dd covering 10-15k miles a year I'd imagine it would cost masses in depreciation and masses in running costs if my running costs over 90k miles in one of these is anything to go by.

After three years and add another 45k miles so 90k miles/16 yr old 997 turbo whats it worth? Its not even an exciting weekend car without modding the hell out if it. Just a quiet fast autobahn stormer out of the box.
true, with the mileage op is doing then it'd make more sense to get a cheaper example such as:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

£47k / 43,000 miles

considering the cheapest examples on PH are

£43k / 123,000 miles
£42k / 92,000 miles

I expect you'd barely lose any money on it
It’s a tiptronic hence I think I’d rather buy 911 Virgins manual car - worth the premium over a tip (for me) for sure. They’re not scrap and of course you can dd them but don’t think you won’t get eye watering bills. Rusty turbos £10k pls. Gearbox breaks £10k pls. Engine breaks (mine did) £15-£25k to rebuild and if it’s too far gone like the 997 GT2s engine sitting at Porsche Torque which has identical engine a new engine on exchange basis now £50k! 3 Rads £5k. Clutch if manual £3k. Rather than chat about it go buy one and daily lol. If I was buying for that type of dd 10-15k type use I’d go for an M2 (never had a BMW and I love it’s muscle car looks) wink

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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Due to where they are located they rust very badly. Casings look like iron?

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=109066&po...

Fokker

3,460 posts

222 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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You’d be better off buying a 991.2 GTS with 8k miles on for around 88-90k from an OPC or even a specialist. It’s going to lose less money than the new 992. Quite a few 992’s are already sub the 991.2GTS prices.

The GTS makes a very sensible buy in most cases.

Get some finance quotes on the two cars over a 2 or 3 year period. I bet the GFV / balloon is much stronger on the GTS and what with it being cheaper to start with, you’ll see the savings.

dgswk

890 posts

94 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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nunpuncher said:
No, no, that wouldn't do at all. It's old and we all know that by the time a car gets close to 100k miles its as good as scrap and by the time its over or near 50k miles almost every component will need replacing plus if you're doing the mileage 50k is only a kick in the balls off 100k and therefor... scrap.

The trouble with this thread is that the title is wrong. The question was never "can I afford a decent 911 for every day use". The answer to that was always "Yes". The question has always been "what's the newest 911 I can afford?"

The OP is definitely buying the right car for him.
+1

prismv

Original Poster:

155 posts

90 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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Fokker said:
You’d be better off buying a 991.2 GTS with 8k miles on for around 88-90k from an OPC or even a specialist. It’s going to lose less money than the new 992. Quite a few 992’s are already sub the 991.2GTS prices.

The GTS makes a very sensible buy in most cases.

Get some finance quotes on the two cars over a 2 or 3 year period. I bet the GFV / balloon is much stronger on the GTS and what with it being cheaper to start with, you’ll see the savings.
Thanks but I’m not interested in the GTS
My decision goes beyond money if it was I’d by a 20 year old banger and just drive that to get from point A to B lol

drjdog

345 posts

70 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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This thread is quite something.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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drjdog said:
This thread is quite something.
Please elaborate that highly insightful comment

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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anonymous said:
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It’s UK salty/wet roads. Turbine material is austenitic stainless steel, which is specially formulated to withstand high EGTs. The casing probably the same not sure but they rust badly. Before buying always have the car PPI’d.

Gio G

2,946 posts

209 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Good luck OP, car sounds terrific. Now the waiting smile

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