992 - essential options vs depreciation?

[breadvan]

SC is essential in my view, if only for the wheel mounted mode switch (or whatever it’s called). The 992 is my first Porsche with it and it’s blooming marvellous to quickly flip through the modes and it gives you the 20 boost button. Easy decision......

[beedj]

I’m struggling to imagine real world driving conditions ever making it genuinely useful to quickly switch between modes, SC is a triumph of marketing (and a bit gimmicky) imho. It seems like a lot more people are questioning whether to bother on the 992

[Shiverman]

beedj said:

I’m struggling to imagine real world driving conditions ever making it genuinely useful to quickly switch between modes, SC is a triumph of marketing (and a bit gimmicky) imho. It seems like a lot more people are questioning whether to bother on the 992

I’m with Breadvan I wouldn’t go without SC IMO. The menus for drive selection are not easy to access so selector wheel on the steering wheel is an essential giving you the ability to select WET, NORMAL or SPORT

[beedj]

Doesn’t it automatically switch to Wet anyway?

[breadvan]

Each to their own but I’d argue ‘real world driving’ makes it more important than ever, especially in a dd.

I rarely get the chance or have the need to stay in S or S+, but when the road suddenly opens up or a sneaky overtake presents itself, I’d much rather toggle a switch than scroll through touch screens to liven things up.

I thought it a gimmick too but I find I use it all the time.

[Shiverman]

beedj said:

Doesn’t it automatically switch to Wet anyway?

No you have to manually select. The car suggests wet mode but up to you if you select it.

[beedj]

Shiverman said:

No you have to manually select. The car suggests wet mode but up to you if you select it.

Ah right, does it give an easy option to select Wet in that situation, or is it back to the menus?

[Shiverman]

beedj said:

Ah right, does it give an easy option to select Wet in that situation, or is it back to the menus?

If you have SC you turn the wheel one click to the left and it selects wet mode.

If not, then I think you’d have to select the car menu from the main screen and then select the settings and select wet mode.

[Porsche718S]

Without SC you have two big buttons on the dash in a 992 (two of the five toggle buttons) for WET and SPORT. (These buttons are shortcut buttons on SC-equipped cars.)

You lose the dynamic mounts, S+/individual modes and boost button without SC, but you don’t need to go into the menus via the touchscreen to change the mode the car is in if you don’t have SC.

I can’t see the sense in SC in a DD, but many apparently do.

[Adam B]

OP is hardly going to notice DEMs on a daily London commute (max speed 30mph?)

I use Sport mode all the time in the Macan as it sharpens the gear changes / suspension / holds more revs and opens the PSE at a press of a button. I switch to normal on the motorway.

SC gives me Sport+ mode (assume 911 is the same) which I never use as I don’t want to use launch control (mechanical sympathy) and Sport+ mode is frankly a bit embarrassing in London as it redlines in 1st and 2nd and you look a bit of a plonker

And the lap timer will never be used in 99% of Porsches bar maybe GT3s

[WCZ]

Adam B said:

As you already know if deprecation is a primary concern buy nearly new. Why on Earth you think a 2 year old Porsche is going to break down or require major maintenance I have no clue, in fact a new car will have issues that a new owner has to iron out.

I bought a 2 year old Macan turbo with 11k miles and loads of options. I saved 30% off list and depreciation will slow from here as I will keep for 3-4 years and do 3k pa. it has a warranty for a year after which I will renew for £1400 for 2 years, servicing is every 2 years just like it was when new. A £55 MOT once a year is hardly a hardship when half of them will be done with the service anyway
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this, it's simply not worth buying a new car unless you are impatient and want the first off the line or have a very specific spec requirement.

[WCZ]

anonymous said:

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the problem with this is that when you are buying new the used cars you can buy for the same money becomes nuts, esp with anything upwards of £100k in a well spec'd 911 and imo it becomes harder to justify even as a keeper

[mw300]

Thank you for all your replies so far. By the way, here is a picture of the base carrera wheels in real life: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvW2HtWpFe8/

This is the only picture I’ve been able to find so far but doesn’t look bad to me.

Perhaps I should have also said that I want the new model rather than a 991 as it’s newer tech, leaving aside all maintenance issues. There may be bargains on 6-12 month old S versions shortly if Brexit gets messier this autumn but choices with either sports tex or ventilated seats will be limited so better to order new. Also, the messier Brexit gets the lower the pound so MSRP will go up in Q1 and used prices might be supported by that. Anyway, don’t want to open a can of worms, let’s focus on spec please

So just need to decide the following:
1. sports tex or ventilated leather
2. bose or standard
3. upgrade wheels or standard

[GTS JOE]

mw300 said:

Thank you for all your replies so far. By the way, here is a picture of the base carrera wheels in real life: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvW2HtWpFe8/

This is the only picture I’ve been able to find so far but doesn’t look bad to me.

Perhaps I should have also said that I want the new model rather than a 991 as it’s newer tech, leaving aside all maintenance issues. There may be bargains on 6-12 month old S versions shortly if Brexit gets messier this autumn but choices with either sports tex or ventilated seats will be limited so better to order new. Also, the messier Brexit gets the lower the pound so MSRP will go up in Q1 and used prices might be supported by that. Anyway, don’t want to open a can of worms, let’s focus on spec please

So just need to decide the following:
1. sports tex or ventilated leather
2. bose or standard
3. upgrade wheels or standard

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/18/2020-porsche-9...

Here’s one of the pic’s that helped convince me that Sport-Tex with Crayon stitching and seat belts was the way to go - The very next pic is the standard full leather for direct full screen comparison.

Edited by GTS JOE on Monday 19th August 15:24

[Adam B]

Oh they look far less interesting than the earlier houndstooth comment led me to believe.

Leather and ventilation more desirable but as that sportex stuff is free and if it cools sufficiently get that (from depreciation perspective)

[Koln-RS]

If I was going for a 992 - and I’m not yet convinced, as it looks a bigger and more technical, especially the interior, than the 911s I grew up loving - then I would also go standard spec with a few options, but probably not SC.

[22ppk22]

OP, my 2c...I was in a similar situation and made what I felt were the right compromises to my optional spec...GT Silver, Black high-gloss logo, Electric Folding Mirrors, Sport Chrono, Power Steering Plus, RS wheels, Wheel Centres, Auto Dimming mirrors, Park Assist with Reversing Camera, Entry & Drive, Homelink, GT steering wheel, 4 way sports seats, embossed headrests.

4 months down the line I could defo live without the reversing camera, entry & drive, homelink. So in the future I will save ~1K of options not spec'ing these. I'm happy my car has Sport Chrono although I haven't really used it other than as a toy, and if I am honest thats the only option the OPC really pushed. GT silver and wheels where aesthetic must have for me which is why I brought new, and the other options are pretty much throw-away. I'm glad I didn't go for the BOSE....standard seems more than OK to me.

I like the SportTex but had to spec my car before I could see a 992 delivered with that. Its a very personal choice - but having come from a car with ventilated seats I went with the standard leather but in slate grey. The lighter colour seems to keep them cooler although that might be placebo!

[Racer26]

Think a light spec base 992 is the way. Cannot see what to gain from all the "essential" overpriced, over-hyped extras. I've driven all sorts of 911's - and for me the simpler the better.
Saw a standard black 992, the car looked stunning. It was spotlessly clean though!
Really fancy a manual base 992.
My spec would include the Carrera Classic larger wheels (I'm a sucker for that wheel), metal sunroof, 4 way SportTex seats. And that's about it.

[Taffy66]

Racer26 said:

Think a light spec base 992 is the way. Cannot see what to gain from all the "essential" overpriced, over-hyped extras. I've driven all sorts of 911's - and for me the simpler the better.
Saw a standard black 992, the car looked stunning. It was spotlessly clean though!
Really fancy a manual base 992.
My spec would include the Carrera Classic larger wheels (I'm a sucker for that wheel), metal sunroof, 4 way SportTex seats. And that's about it.

I'm thinking the same as you..The 992 i'm really looking forward to is the T with the rumoured 4L 718GT4 engine..Manual,RAS,PCCBs and Buckets in Guards red..

[Nickbrapp]

Glass pano
ACC
Sports exhaust

Nothing else needed