GT3 Touring at OPC Silverstone
Discussion
Juno said:
Yellow491 said:
Dont take it personally or be offended, i was just stating he prefers not to brag about it or expose it to the world,i was not implying you do.
I thought re the bose you would know from looking at the photos,so it will have music but just not bose.I thought auto wipe etc was standard along with the plastic ducks.
As said the nardo is looking better and better,might even go and look,its cheaper than most have paid for there car with all the extra purchases,trying to be number one buyer etc.If its also paint to sample what would the retail be on it new?taff.
Juno is one of the few plus hunter who did not sucombe to the extra purchases to get a allocation.
My attempt to get a gt2 did not happen as i was not prepared to chop my 997rs in or any other requests.
Whatever you do Yellow please don't ever take me too seriously because I sure as hell don't even take myself seriously I thought re the bose you would know from looking at the photos,so it will have music but just not bose.I thought auto wipe etc was standard along with the plastic ducks.
As said the nardo is looking better and better,might even go and look,its cheaper than most have paid for there car with all the extra purchases,trying to be number one buyer etc.If its also paint to sample what would the retail be on it new?taff.
Juno is one of the few plus hunter who did not sucombe to the extra purchases to get a allocation.
My attempt to get a gt2 did not happen as i was not prepared to chop my 997rs in or any other requests.
Good luck with the Nardo car,it looks very nice
If you do buy it we can rename you :Beige:
Still not convinced myself on nardo colour yet,its only 40 mins away to look.
2010spy said:
Thread Deviation: I’m driving my Touring at Silverstone this weekend (Sunday) anyone from here doing that day?
Touring on track? Didn't you listen to R? Without the wing it will lift off before you hit the first corner - not even the extra weight from leather over alcantara will save you...
Touring not a proper GT car!!! R needs to stop banging that drum it’s starting to sound like white noise
As for the 992 Touring when it comes, there will be a lot more sold and the 992 range is a bigger bulkier car and no doubt faster but is it a proper GT car or more of a Tourer even with the Wing?
I’ve gone back to a 997.2 RS with the slightly narrower body, more mechanical feel and ‘that’ engine have made me totally get what this generation of car was about.
Each to their own bit for me the Touring was amazing but the 7.2 RS is on a different level to the 991
As for the 992 Touring when it comes, there will be a lot more sold and the 992 range is a bigger bulkier car and no doubt faster but is it a proper GT car or more of a Tourer even with the Wing?
I’ve gone back to a 997.2 RS with the slightly narrower body, more mechanical feel and ‘that’ engine have made me totally get what this generation of car was about.
Each to their own bit for me the Touring was amazing but the 7.2 RS is on a different level to the 991
MartinRS2K said:
Touring not a proper GT car!!! R needs to stop banging that drum it’s starting to sound like white noise
As for the 992 Touring when it comes, there will be a lot more sold and the 992 range is a bigger bulkier car and no doubt faster but is it a proper GT car or more of a Tourer even with the Wing?
I’ve gone back to a 997.2 RS with the slightly narrower body, more mechanical feel and ‘that’ engine have made me totally get what this generation of car was about.
Each to their own bit for me the Touring was amazing but the 7.2 RS is on a different level to the 991
You sold yours, made money and bought a GT3 with a wing which even makes a worse road car ! that's the end of that imo.As for the 992 Touring when it comes, there will be a lot more sold and the 992 range is a bigger bulkier car and no doubt faster but is it a proper GT car or more of a Tourer even with the Wing?
I’ve gone back to a 997.2 RS with the slightly narrower body, more mechanical feel and ‘that’ engine have made me totally get what this generation of car was about.
Each to their own bit for me the Touring was amazing but the 7.2 RS is on a different level to the 991
nothing wrong with that, you ended up in a proper GT3 ;-)
It's strange how some people will buy a real GT car take it to Manthey and only gain for a £90k upgrade 0.5 seconds a mile !! people pay though the nose no issues for 0.5 second.
And others will buy a Touring at £50k more to go slower than a stock GT3, even if it's only a very small hand full.
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Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 11th December 09:09
Porsche911R said:
MartinRS2K said:
Touring not a proper GT car!!! R needs to stop banging that drum it’s starting to sound like white noise
As for the 992 Touring when it comes, there will be a lot more sold and the 992 range is a bigger bulkier car and no doubt faster but is it a proper GT car or more of a Tourer even with the Wing?
I’ve gone back to a 997.2 RS with the slightly narrower body, more mechanical feel and ‘that’ engine have made me totally get what this generation of car was about.
Each to their own bit for me the Touring was amazing but the 7.2 RS is on a different level to the 991
You sold yours and made money and bought a GT3 with a wing ! that's the end of that imo.As for the 992 Touring when it comes, there will be a lot more sold and the 992 range is a bigger bulkier car and no doubt faster but is it a proper GT car or more of a Tourer even with the Wing?
I’ve gone back to a 997.2 RS with the slightly narrower body, more mechanical feel and ‘that’ engine have made me totally get what this generation of car was about.
Each to their own bit for me the Touring was amazing but the 7.2 RS is on a different level to the 991
nothing wrong with that, you ended up in a proper GT3 ;-)
If I had decided to go back into a 991.2 it would have been a Touring again and I did consider buying back my original car but in the end the pull of the 997 was too much.
Again you keep talking
about the 'proper GT3' when I very much doubt you could tell the performance difference or certainly get any faster times out of your 'supposedly better winged car' than in a Touring? Maybe you are a driving God in the disguise of the Forum Clown and we need to bow to your obvious inteligence
MartinRS2K said:
I sold my Touring and made money, I then bought a Ferrari 488 and lost money and have now bought the 997 RS.
If I had decided to go back into a 991.2 it would have been a Touring again and I did consider buying back my original car but in the end the pull of the 997 was too much.
Again you keep talking about the 'proper GT3' when I very much doubt you could tell the performance difference or certainly get any faster times out of your 'supposedly better winged car' than in a Touring?
Maybe you are a driving God in the disguise of the Forum Clown and we need to bow to your obvious inteligence
nothing I have said is non factual. the cars are what they are, you flipped yours to buy a Ferrari, and now own a car with a big wing, again it is what is it.If I had decided to go back into a 991.2 it would have been a Touring again and I did consider buying back my original car but in the end the pull of the 997 was too much.
Again you keep talking
about the 'proper GT3' when I very much doubt you could tell the performance difference or certainly get any faster times out of your 'supposedly better winged car' than in a Touring? Maybe you are a driving God in the disguise of the Forum Clown and we need to bow to your obvious inteligence
you can have a dig at me, it's a forum and that's what happens these days, but you SOLD YOURS for a profit and imo it was because it had zero kerb appeal as far as I can see by the cars you owned before and after it.
I am not a driving God, or a clown ! why even say such daft stuff on forums ?
There is nothing "supposedly better" than in a Touring, it is a better car with a wing performance wise that's just a fact who ever owns it, A FACT , get it !
Matters not if I can tell or not.
some people pay £50k at Manthey to go 0.5 seconds a lap faster in a GT3 if driven by Kevin Estry. Some people , all be it very few, buy a Touring at £50k overs to go slower, that's life and a free choice, does not change the facts of a car.
Porsche911R said:
nothing I have said is non factual. the cars are what they are, you flipped yours to buy a Ferrari, and now own a car with a big wing, again it is what is it.
you can have a dig at me, it's a forum and that's what happens these days, but you SOLD YOURS for a profit and imo it was because it had zero kerb appeal as far as I can see by the cars you owned before and after it.
I am not a driving God, or a clown ! why even say such daft stuff on forums ?
There is nothing "supposedly better" than in a Touring, it is a better car with a wing performance wise that's just a fact who ever owns it, A FACT , get it !
Matters not if I can tell or not.
some people pay £50k at Manthey to go 0.5 seconds a lap faster in a GT3 if driven by Kevin Estry. Some people , all be it very few, buy a Touring at £50k overs to go slower, that's life and a free choice, does not change the facts of a car.
I owned my Touring for 8 months did 3,200 miles in it and gave it back to my OPC to sell on SOR (not exactly flipping as I could have got more selling it privately and even more if I had sold it when it was delivered). I didn't sell it as it had 'Zero kerb appeal' I sold it as it gave me the opportunity to own a Ferrari (something I classed as a box tick in my life) and when the Ferrari went the man maths of profit and loss nearly balanced out.you can have a dig at me, it's a forum and that's what happens these days, but you SOLD YOURS for a profit and imo it was because it had zero kerb appeal as far as I can see by the cars you owned before and after it.
I am not a driving God, or a clown ! why even say such daft stuff on forums ?
There is nothing "supposedly better" than in a Touring, it is a better car with a wing performance wise that's just a fact who ever owns it, A FACT , get it !
Matters not if I can tell or not.
some people pay £50k at Manthey to go 0.5 seconds a lap faster in a GT3 if driven by Kevin Estry. Some people , all be it very few, buy a Touring at £50k overs to go slower, that's life and a free choice, does not change the facts of a car.
What is your comment about the cars I've owned before and after?? Who the F*** are you to judge my car ownership history?? I don't know you personally, so lets keep it that way!
Porsche911R said:
Some people , all be it very few, buy a Touring at £50k overs to go slower, that's life and a free choice, does not change the facts of a car.
I think that's where we differ. I don't care about the speed per se. And like most GT3 owners, I'd never wring every ounce out of that engine. This is going to sound pretentious, and it probably is, but some people admire Porsche from an industrial design perspective. And I take great joy from the fact that few design better machines than Porsche. And in my opinion, the wing ruins the form. And while form should follow function, if you can design a car with the elevated form of a Touring, I'm happy to compromise a little on the function.
Although Porsche would probably say there’s been no compromise with the Touring, given it’s intended function.
Edited by PMacanGTS on Wednesday 11th December 10:16
i think the point is that there isn't any compromise, except for one person on this web forum. it has the same engine specs and performance (except for the missing ram air hp the wing might give over 150 mph...) - I have lapped mine and a friends clubsport at Silverstone and Spa and there was no noticeable difference, except that the touring was a bit more lively in the higher speed turns, which I actually preferred as it was more entertaining. I was on a track day, not participating in a motorsport event, so the final tenth is of zero consequence to anyone. and on the road there is no difference.
anyway, each to their own, I just prefer the incognito look of the touring. others don't which is cool. but to say it's not a GT3 or it's inferior ''and that's FACT'' is just a load of nonsense, sorry.
anyway, each to their own, I just prefer the incognito look of the touring. others don't which is cool. but to say it's not a GT3 or it's inferior ''and that's FACT'' is just a load of nonsense, sorry.
Porsche911R said:
There is nothing "supposedly better" than in a Touring, it is a better car with a wing performance wise that's just a fact who ever owns it, A FACT , get it !
Matters not if I can tell or not.
The GT3 is a better - i.e. faster - car with PDK. A fact. Hence your manual winged GT3 is inferior to a PDK GT3 by your own standards. Don't understand why you went for a lesser car if you could have gotten the real thing? And you can continue the argument, where the only "real" GT3 is the full-on WP RS.Matters not if I can tell or not.
To me, the Touring had the right appeal of GT3 dynamics combined with understated looks, nicely complementing my garage. I have always lusted after such a combo and already looked at "building" my own 7.2 Touring when I got the car originally delivered. The idea was to replace the wing with the vanilla Carrera engine lid. Turned out to be somewhat more complicated than I originally thought. Hence the 1.2 Touring has also a different underfloor to the winged version to balance aero
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