Resto Modded 911's
Discussion
lemmingjames said:
Search for it on here via google but the quality vs the price wanted was not on par with each other
Couldn't find the Autostrasse Thread ( i'm sure they act closed down a few years back now) unless this is the one you are referring to? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
May go take a look at the PS cars as well on my travels...
I saw today that this restomod was put on Collecting Cars and went unsold - 1984 3.2 carrera backdated to longhood. No idea what price they were looking for:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1984-porsche-9...
I think it looks lovely. Done by 911RetroWorks up north. I actually saw this car in the flesh in Primrose Hill about a year ago.
That said, it is worrying that they did a bare metal respray 2 years ago to mod the car, and there is already a small paint bubble on the front bonnet?! Personally that would put me off on the quality of the work.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1984-porsche-9...
I think it looks lovely. Done by 911RetroWorks up north. I actually saw this car in the flesh in Primrose Hill about a year ago.
That said, it is worrying that they did a bare metal respray 2 years ago to mod the car, and there is already a small paint bubble on the front bonnet?! Personally that would put me off on the quality of the work.
n12maser said:
I saw today that this restomod was put on Collecting Cars and went unsold - 1984 3.2 carrera backdated to longhood. No idea what price they were looking for:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1984-porsche-9...
I think it looks lovely. Done by 911RetroWorks up north. I actually saw this car in the flesh in Primrose Hill about a year ago.
It is worrying that they did a bare metal respray 2 years ago to mod the car, and there is already a small paint bubble on the front bonnet?! Personally that would put me off on the quality of the work.
Looks very cool and pretty that but i see no engine upgrades. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1984-porsche-9...
I think it looks lovely. Done by 911RetroWorks up north. I actually saw this car in the flesh in Primrose Hill about a year ago.
It is worrying that they did a bare metal respray 2 years ago to mod the car, and there is already a small paint bubble on the front bonnet?! Personally that would put me off on the quality of the work.
At a guess as its taken away its originality and is essentially a regular 3.2 underneath i'd suggest they are looking for circa 60k??? Although i suspect the bids would be around the 40k mark.
I may well be way off here though....
n12maser said:
yeah, good point. am sure someone in the porsche part of Pistonheads will know what the bids were!
I did some digging.The reserve was set at 75K and it sold post auction although at what price i wasn't told.
Close to the reserve price seems a little steep to me but who knows what exactly it went for.......
FocusRS3 said:
lemmingjames said:
Search for it on here via google but the quality vs the price wanted was not on par with each other
Couldn't find the Autostrasse Thread ( i'm sure they act closed down a few years back now) unless this is the one you are referring to? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
May go take a look at the PS cars as well on my travels...
Quality and price, were not happy bedfellows...
I've seen the Theon design car locally over what must be the past two years. Looks very very impressive but not had a chance to see the car close up. Only driving by. I am sure the Tuthill cars would be built to a very high standard but you will pay a very hefty price. I have only met Richard once and found him to be abrasive, rude and arrogant.
MrVert said:
I’d still rather have one of his cars than a poorly treated shell, badly painted body, non re-wired, horrific basket case of a 911 that some companies are charging £100k for.....
+1Agree much of the alternative stuff one sees truly awful murdering old 911s. There are good alternatives though but they're hardly any cheaper (Autofarm, Canford Classics, 9m, RPM, JZM) - like some of the stuff from these other shops too. I don't know Greg Cranmer at Heritage but worth talking to as Singers UK service agent as he will know the difference. If you want a rest mod I'd personally also talk to a fellow PH member Trantorman. He'll be starting a resto mod based on a 993 C2 and has a wealth of knowledge. Or just buy a good honest old car pre impact bumper car. They're more modern and useable than they get credit for. 72 RS for me is a surprisingly modern car. Get a good 2.4s - this is stunning
https://www.sports-purpose.com/cars-for-sale/1973-...
Porsche911R said:
IMI A said:
Or just buy a good honest old car pre impact bumper car.
I have a soft sport for the IB cars and they are a better car really, last of the cars with no ABSI'll take a 86 Clubsport please.
Compared to dropping good money into a StephensRennsportRetrosport an absolute no brainer.
IMI A said:
that old 2.4s sublime - have you clicked on the link? Amazing I think I'd want both CS and the 2.4s but £150k starting price for time warp one nowadays
Compared to dropping good money into a StephensRennsportRetrosport an absolute no brainer.
I love the 2.4S :-) be my classic of choice for those classic meet ups.Compared to dropping good money into a StephensRennsportRetrosport an absolute no brainer.
Porsche911R said:
IMI A said:
that old 2.4s sublime - have you clicked on the link? Amazing I think I'd want both CS and the 2.4s but £150k starting price for time warp one nowadays
Compared to dropping good money into a StephensRennsportRetrosport an absolute no brainer.
I love the 2.4S :-) be my classic of choice for those classic meet ups.Compared to dropping good money into a StephensRennsportRetrosport an absolute no brainer.
A well restored 1973 2.4S like above would be a much safer home for money compared to commissioning any 964 backdate..
Taffy66 said:
How does a 964 compare to a 993 i wonder..?
I've had both and prefer 993. Others prefer 964. There's no wrong or right answer.Personally I preferred the multi-link suspension of the 993, vs the 964's torsion bar like older 911s - better on our sh*tty roads. I also preferred the "on cam" feel of the 993 at around 4k revs, whereas the 964 was totally linear...a bit boring in comparison. Also preferred the noise of the 993 with RSR exhaust vs the noise of 964 w/ a G-pipe. Both sound fab tho. Got to say though, it is a great feeling in the 964 looking out over those classic torpedo fenders which you lose in the 993.
n12maser said:
I've had both and prefer 993. Others prefer 964. There's no wrong or right answer.
Personally I preferred the multi-link suspension of the 993, vs the 964's torsion bar like older 911s - better on our sh*tty roads. I also preferred the "on cam" feel of the 993 at around 4k revs, whereas the 964 was totally linear...a bit boring in comparison. Also preferred the noise of the 993 with RSR exhaust vs the noise of 964 w/ a G-pipe. Both sound fab tho. Got to say though, it is a great feeling in the 964 looking out over those classic torpedo fenders which you lose in the 993.
Actually the 964 doesnt have a torsion bar set up at the rear, its a coil over with a wishbone type with a spring plate attached. It has less links than the 993 so techincally the 993 set up is better. I have both a 993 and 964 so can offer an objective view of the chassis performance on both. My view is that - when both are optimised - there is so little difference between them in performance that it is almost imperceptble - providing that the spring plates in the 964 are upgraded to Elephant racing items and the subframe on the 993 is correctly alligned. The Elephant items are not expensive and make a profound difference to the 964's handling. As standard there is a difference in feel as the bushing in the factory 964 spring plates can allow the rear geometry to distort under load from apex to exit under hard cornering. The 993 rear end offers more mechanical control but is mounted on a subframe and relies on being correclty alligned as well as a decent normal geo set up to optimise performance. They both have thier potential issues but in terms of chassis performance, if both are optimised there is nothing between them. Given that my 993 is a racing car and has fully rose jointed suspension I was very supprised how similar the 964's handling is Personally I preferred the multi-link suspension of the 993, vs the 964's torsion bar like older 911s - better on our sh*tty roads. I also preferred the "on cam" feel of the 993 at around 4k revs, whereas the 964 was totally linear...a bit boring in comparison. Also preferred the noise of the 993 with RSR exhaust vs the noise of 964 w/ a G-pipe. Both sound fab tho. Got to say though, it is a great feeling in the 964 looking out over those classic torpedo fenders which you lose in the 993.
n12maser said:
I've had both and prefer 993. Others prefer 964. There's no wrong or right answer.
Personally I preferred the multi-link suspension of the 993, vs the 964's torsion bar like older 911s - better on our sh*tty roads. I also preferred the "on cam" feel of the 993 at around 4k revs, whereas the 964 was totally linear...a bit boring in comparison. Also preferred the noise of the 993 with RSR exhaust vs the noise of 964 w/ a G-pipe. Both sound fab tho. Got to say though, it is a great feeling in the 964 looking out over those classic torpedo fenders which you lose in the 993
The G pipe was originally produced by Porsche as a sound upgrade for the 965 Turbo, and thus is a far from optimal upgrade for a C2/4/RS.Personally I preferred the multi-link suspension of the 993, vs the 964's torsion bar like older 911s - better on our sh*tty roads. I also preferred the "on cam" feel of the 993 at around 4k revs, whereas the 964 was totally linear...a bit boring in comparison. Also preferred the noise of the 993 with RSR exhaust vs the noise of 964 w/ a G-pipe. Both sound fab tho. Got to say though, it is a great feeling in the 964 looking out over those classic torpedo fenders which you lose in the 993
To make a 964 sing properly you need to decat it, fit a Cup bypass and drill the air box, the end result is mellifluous and the epitome of daily drivable aircooled soundtracks.
If the power delivery of the 964 you owned/drove was that linear, I suspect the resonance flap in the inlet manifold wasn’t working (or the belt driving the second distributor had failed)
993 is a great car, but the 964 retained more of the classic aircooled 911 traits, and therefore many will prefer it over the newer iteration.
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