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Nice to see these extra special RS WP cars finally ending up in the hands of appreciative genuine enthusiastic owners. Albeit with the rather sour aftertaste that its lined the pockets of these greedy flippers who never really wanted or appreciated the car in the first place..Shame on Porsche that they continue to allow for this shady practice to continue..
I told my DP a couple of years ago that all these new owners of GT Porsches should be made to sign an affidavit to have to keep the RS for a minimum of one year otherwise being sued.
I told my DP a couple of years ago that all these new owners of GT Porsches should be made to sign an affidavit to have to keep the RS for a minimum of one year otherwise being sued.
Taffy66 said:
Interesting that the basic setup on the RS WP in OEM spec is not optimum for track..I'm having a geo check done on mine in a couple of weeks at my OPC but might cancel now and get it done at a specialist instead..Has JCR got an ideal setup done yet or is it still work in progress..?
Morning Taff,Don't forget like above its a road car first and foremost. On track its fine on stock settings from a start point, also in my experience its best to do around 1k miles to let everything settle down before going for a much more track bias set up. Yes JCR has the Gen 3 RSWP fully sorted set up wise, I was on track with a car last week with one with his set up. Looked very well balanced in the corners and very even tyre wear.
Porsche911R said:
Yellow491 said:
Sorry mate ,we all know on here the gt3 is the cooking version,the rs is the slower car with ppf etc etc;)
That’s daft, what seems to be clear to save face like I predicted the ppf cars are pushing out more bhp. If it’s 540 that’s quite a big tweak.Like for like the older RS would have been faster.
The standard GT3 don’t come into it, we all know it has the least bhp. So you have a GT3 on 500, RS pre ppf 520, and ppf cars on 540. The RS needed 520 to over come the extra drag of 265's the ppf cars need a bit more again, Porsche don’t make slower GT cars.
Just be sensible , as all pisstaking posts by 4 or 5 people is daft and really no need for it.
I think a lot of new cars are in big trouble, look at the 2020 Supra, the UK is NOT getting the bhp gains :-(
The 992 is going to move the game on for lap times, that’s life.
A base GT car will lap faster than the outgoing WPRS.
The RS ring record car is not a ppf car.
Taff just have it checked and set at your opc,they should do it free of charge i would of thought,its not much any way and the kit they use is good for road cars,if it was a out and out track car, there is another science out there on consistent tyres and set up etcJust learn with what you have for now,once you have squeezed all you can out of the car ,look at tyres and set up after that and of course tuition.
My 997 after 2000 miles,the set up was all over the place,had it reset to factory and just a extra half deg of camber all round.
The latest rs has been faster around some tracks than the gt2,so says the tester/true pro with better aero and balance.
I might have a wp at the rs day.
As Tony Beats would say “Pretty fJuno said:
Thank you we are rather pleased.Don't you just love the knockers? It's slower than the Gen 2 ( which we owned) No it isn't! Porsche never go backwards! The PPF's increase back pressure which reduce the top end! Total nonsense . Porsche never go backwards! Is there a time or a service interval when the car determines when its clogged up filters are cleared? No, the engine when hot just burns the particles off hence they never need any attention. Porsche never goes backwards! So much love and respect for their GT Products as Number 6 resides in our garage all of which have averaged at least 8000 miles a year.
robgt3 said:
Thank you we are rather pleased.
Don't you just love the knockers? It's slower than the Gen 2 ( which we owned) No it isn't! Porsche never go backwards! The PPF's increase back pressure which reduce the top end! Total nonsense . Porsche never go backwards! Is there a time or a service interval when the car determines when its clogged up filters are cleared? No, the engine when hot just burns the particles off hence they never need any attention. Porsche never goes backwards! So much love and respect for their GT Products as Number 6 resides in our garage all of which have averaged at least 8000 miles a year.
they go forwards but had to do a lot to offset the fitment due to EU laws.Don't you just love the knockers? It's slower than the Gen 2 ( which we owned) No it isn't! Porsche never go backwards! The PPF's increase back pressure which reduce the top end! Total nonsense . Porsche never go backwards! Is there a time or a service interval when the car determines when its clogged up filters are cleared? No, the engine when hot just burns the particles off hence they never need any attention. Porsche never goes backwards! So much love and respect for their GT Products as Number 6 resides in our garage all of which have averaged at least 8000 miles a year.
Itb and bhp increase it seems.
Like for like cars a ppf car is slower.
Most new cars launched today are slower as they don’t offset the drag a ppf brings.
The itb was a win win form them, it reduced co2 and Improved throttle , but was forced on them.
The drag is real hence the lower sound even with removed side mufflers.
robgt3 said:
Juno said:
Thank you we are rather pleased.Don't you just love the knockers? It's slower than the Gen 2 ( which we owned) No it isn't! Porsche never go backwards! The PPF's increase back pressure which reduce the top end! Total nonsense . Porsche never go backwards! Is there a time or a service interval when the car determines when its clogged up filters are cleared? No, the engine when hot just burns the particles off hence they never need any attention. Porsche never goes backwards! So much love and respect for their GT Products as Number 6 resides in our garage all of which have averaged at least 8000 miles a year.
t for 50k behind list but I doubt there will be any takers 
Edited by Juno on Sunday 16th February 17:26
Taff,not sure if you have seen this,it can be usefull https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/blog/geometry-explained-p...
I visted rpm last week,great set up they have.
I visted rpm last week,great set up they have.
robgt3 said:
We have just P/exed our much loved Gen 2 RS for a WP RS. Found one at Leeds OPC registered in Oct 2019. The car had only 99 miles recorded! Yes I know I have paid over list though was happy to do so as I have circumnavigated the need to buy the required multiple number of other models and their subsequent depreciation by doing so.
After our Lizard Green it seems quite muted in GT Silver. So far we have covered only an additional 160 more miles. Initial impressions and comparisons are a bit limited other than it is so Quiet! That of course is due to the PPF's; my question is what can be done at a reasonable price? Sharkwerks cannot help, Akrapovich are offering an expensive alternative. Has anyone opened up the rear silencer and removed any or all of the internals and would that work? I ask the question as our Lizard had definetly become quite fruity probably as a result of the 8,800 miles and three track days!
The car is currently at Lichtfield having their spray on PPF applied, seven coats apparently. I decided that I didn't wish to risk all that exposed Carbon Fibre to chipping. I was very impressed by Lichtfields help, advice and experience. Ian Lichtfield took the time to show us all around his facilities, all in all it is very impressive well run establishment.
We will collect the car in a couple of days time which won't be a moment too soon by which time our Reg No. GT03MOL will be in place. Hopefully by then the weather will have improved and the driving can begin.
Im running a JCR on my WP car and covered 2,500 miles so far. You really cant go wrong After our Lizard Green it seems quite muted in GT Silver. So far we have covered only an additional 160 more miles. Initial impressions and comparisons are a bit limited other than it is so Quiet! That of course is due to the PPF's; my question is what can be done at a reasonable price? Sharkwerks cannot help, Akrapovich are offering an expensive alternative. Has anyone opened up the rear silencer and removed any or all of the internals and would that work? I ask the question as our Lizard had definetly become quite fruity probably as a result of the 8,800 miles and three track days!
The car is currently at Lichtfield having their spray on PPF applied, seven coats apparently. I decided that I didn't wish to risk all that exposed Carbon Fibre to chipping. I was very impressed by Lichtfields help, advice and experience. Ian Lichtfield took the time to show us all around his facilities, all in all it is very impressive well run establishment.
We will collect the car in a couple of days time which won't be a moment too soon by which time our Reg No. GT03MOL will be in place. Hopefully by then the weather will have improved and the driving can begin.
Taffy66 said:
jonnywalker46 said:
I'm interested in the JCR to fit on my RS WP after having one on my GT3..How are you finding it.?APOLO1 said:
Taffy66 said:
Interesting that the basic setup on the RS WP in OEM spec is not optimum for track..I'm having a geo check done on mine in a couple of weeks at my OPC but might cancel now and get it done at a specialist instead..Has JCR got an ideal setup done yet or is it still work in progress..?
Morning Taff,Don't forget like above its a road car first and foremost. On track its fine on stock settings from a start point, also in my experience its best to do around 1k miles to let everything settle down before going for a much more track bias set up. Yes JCR has the Gen 3 RSWP fully sorted set up wise, I was on track with a car last week with one with his set up. Looked very well balanced in the corners and very even tyre wear.
I was in the Crayon car with the setup. Tyre wear is very good I must say
jonnywalker46 said:
Hi Apollo,
I was in the Crayon car with the setup. Tyre wear is very good I must say
Hi, I was in the Crayon car with the setup. Tyre wear is very good I must say
I followed you round for a bit, you car looked very well balanced. Mines just over stock, now its all run in will be going to JCR very soon. For me I find it has a bit to much understeer on stock on the rear when pushing on. I like it to have good stability on the back, that's what gave me the confidence on turn in on my GT3.2 JCR Set up. That the car would pull round corners like it was on rails.
Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 17th February 14:29
Taffy66 said:
jonnywalker46 said:
I'm interested in the JCR to fit on my RS WP after having one on my GT3..How are you finding it.?APOLO1 said:
jonnywalker46 said:
Hi Apollo,
I was in the Crayon car with the setup. Tyre wear is very good I must say
Hi, I was in the Crayon car with the setup. Tyre wear is very good I must say
I followed you round for a bit, you car looked very well balanced. Mines just over stock, now its all run in will be going to JCR very soon. For me I find it has a bit to much understeer on stock on the rear when pushing on. I like it to have good stability on the back, that's what gave me the confidence on turn in on my GT3.2 JCR Set up. That the car would pull round corners like it was on rails.
Edited by APOLO1 on Monday 17th February 14:29
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