Bought a Touring...

Bought a Touring...

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Cheib

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23,217 posts

175 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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seawise said:
IMI A said:
no brakes - almost wet myself wring one out in third to 7200rpm then having to slow down fast for a second gear corner smile
yes, i remember that being the over-riding memory of the one aspect that betrays the cars age - that engine is extraordinary however, they feel like a proper little hot rods.
Brakes are definitely not its forte...you just have to get used to pushing a lot harder ! Although I think given the age of the car I think the brakes are actually pretty good (they’ve recently been serviced) once you use enough right foot. You definitely need to drive with more respect for your speed/road conditions though because they won’t get you out of trouble like modern brakes can. Not going to be pushing the handling or the braking until I do a couple of sessions at Milbrook. The Handling Circuit and Alpine Route are ideal places to learn that in relative safety.

Mintbird

559 posts

101 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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bucket list car!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wALArd2rvo


truer words have never been spoken.

those rear arches, wibble....

Robbo66

3,833 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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See !!!

av185

18,503 posts

127 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Good man C!

Be interesting to hear your thoughts about the car especially compared to your newer Pork. thumbup

Porsche guy

3,465 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Cheib said:
Fulfilled pretty much a lifelong dream biggrin



Have only had about three hours seat time so I’m still learning the car but it’s just bloody brilliant.
Well done you..smile

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Ooh, that is very lovely indeed. Many congratulations, what a delightful use of funds to make some proper memories.

Fantastic.

Cheib

Original Poster:

23,217 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Thanks all smile A few more pice





Orangecurry

7,416 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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....ah yes - a 1970s car with 1970s seatbelts hehe

Looks ok - smile

Cheib

Original Poster:

23,217 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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av185 said:
Good man C!

Be interesting to hear your thoughts about the car especially compared to your newer Pork. thumbup
There are a lot of people on here better qualified to tell you the difference. I drove it back to back with my GT3 this afternoon...most obvious difference is driving position you sit a lot lower in the newer cars...steering wheel is higher and much closer to you. Clearly visibility much better in the older cars.

In terms of driving the sporting heritage of the RS is very apparent in how it drives in terms of firmness of the suspension and chassis. It is much firmer than you would think for an old car....but clearly there’s a lot more compliance in the tyres and the seats. The seats are just fantastic...I would actually say the balance between comfort and lateral support is superb.....better than any modern seat I can think of.

The car just feels some much more alive than the modern cars....the car is talking to you constantly. Steering at speed is beautifully balanced and incredibly communicative....that oh so thin steering wheel is a joy to use.. Gearchange is light and requires guidance rather than a firm throw....get back in the GT3 and it really does feel like a rifle bolt in comparison. Engine is just superb...feels super strong...rev hungry but still has plenty of torque (helped by the lightness of the car no doubt).

The RS just feels like an incredibly good balance between power, weight, chassis control and grip. Importantly for usability it feels totally at home in modern traffic...the natural speed it wants to be driven is between 50 and 70 mph....at that speed you’re in the right part of the rev range in 3rd and 4th gear and the chassis is working at speeds it’s designed for.

I might add a a steering wheel spacer to give me some more clearance for my legs...I am 6’2” and my legs are better suited to rugby than marathon running. You can put a period Momo wheel on which is a bit smaller and can be dished but that means heavier steering which I would like to avoid. Although will drive the car a bit more first.


Cheib

Original Poster:

23,217 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Orangecurry said:
....ah yes - a 1970s car with 1970s seatbelts hehe

Looks ok - smile
Yes...I’ve just bought some period correct inertia reel belts..they were an option on the RS. Safer option and no hassle adjusting etc !

RSVP911

8,192 posts

133 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Hey chap - missed this thread somehow - congratulations- delighted you’ve found a new love in your life - it’s been quite a journey - enjoy in rude health smile

Don’t mean to worry you, but I think it’s faulty - it’s decals have fallen off or been stolen ? smile

Orangecurry

7,416 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Cheib said:
The key to me is usability....whilst there are some truly great modern cars the key to me is how much use you can get out of them and then how much excitement they generate at legal(ish) road speeds. Once you start asking those questions the field narrows down pretty quickly.
Digga said:
Understand this completely. Speed in no means equates to fun.

Similar to my argument for sticking at 997 Gen 1 GT car is that buying a later car will not improve my skill, but merely increase the speed of any impending accident.
You may laugh, but this is exactly the same conversation I had twenty years ago when I owned a brand new Impreza and a mk1 Golf GTI. At first the modern car seems to eclipse the older in every way, and don't misunderstand, of course the Impreza is very capable. But I had kept the mk1 over a mk2 16v and then a mk3 16v because of exactly the reasons above.
Communication, lack of weight!, feedback, driver input and the reward from it, and all at legal speeds.
I still have the mk1, with inertia reels hehe and I must get it going again rolleyes

Edited by Orangecurry on Tuesday 22 December 21:28

Cheib

Original Poster:

23,217 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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RSVP911 said:
Hey chap - missed this thread somehow - congratulations- delighted you’ve found a new love in your life - it’s been quite a journey - enjoy in rude health smile

Don’t mean to worry you, but I think it’s faulty - it’s decals have fallen off or been stolen ? smile
Thanks for your counsel R. It has been quite a journey.

Funny you should mention the decals....previous owner took them off as an experiment. I am having them put back on smile

RSVP911

8,192 posts

133 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Cheib said:
Thanks for your counsel R. It has been quite a journey.

Funny you should mention the decals....previous owner took them off as an experiment. I am having them put back on smile
Good man - Rick at Highgate House is your friend smile

2.4te

26 posts

82 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Fabulous! Many congratulations.

Just started rebuilding my 1972 TE MFI 911 engine, and adding a few more horses,,. These MFI cars are scintillating and the RS takes them to another level. Owned mine 22 years....

Cheib

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23,217 posts

175 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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2.4te said:
Fabulous! Many congratulations.

Just started rebuilding my 1972 TE MFI 911 engine, and adding a few more horses,,. These MFI cars are scintillating and the RS takes them to another level. Owned mine 22 years....
Sounds lovely . What colour is it ? You might enjoy this video of Jay Leno in his 71 911 T which he’s got a 225 bhp engine in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsc46vhB82A

Talking of videos this is a great one that was published a couple of months ago on the RS....helped push me over the edge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7--Icb9Dog&t=...

Digga

40,300 posts

283 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Orangecurry said:
Cheib said:
The key to me is usability....whilst there are some truly great modern cars the key to me is how much use you can get out of them and then how much excitement they generate at legal(ish) road speeds. Once you start asking those questions the field narrows down pretty quickly.
Digga said:
Understand this completely. Speed in no means equates to fun.

Similar to my argument for sticking at 997 Gen 1 GT car is that buying a later car will not improve my skill, but merely increase the speed of any impending accident.
You may laugh, but this is exactly the same conversation I had twenty years ago when I owned a brand new Impreza and a mk1 Golf GTI. At first the modern car seems to eclipse the older in every way, and don't misunderstand, of course the Impreza is very capable. But I had kept the mk1 over a mk2 16v and then a mk3 16v because of exactly the reasons above.
Communication, lack of weight!, feedback, driver input and the reward from it, and all at legal speeds.
I still have the mk1, with inertia reels hehe and I must get it going again rolleyes
I can vividly remember learning about understeer in my trusty Mk1 Fiesta 1.1. biggrin

The XR2 that replaced it was faster and gripper but lost something in the steering feel and feedback.

Neighbour has a lovely Imprezza still, he's had it for 10 years, but seldom uses it and wishes he;d kept the Peugeot GTi he had before, because it was more fun.

So no, I won't laugh, because I can get your point completely.

RiccardoG

1,587 posts

272 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Congratulations on buying what is a dream car for most of us. Lovely "pepita" interior too! cloud9

Really nice to hear you plan to use it properly, thats just so... "Porsche".

Racer26

75 posts

77 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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When I was a young teenager, I used to watch Nick Faure hurl the sensational AFN 2.7RS around the UK circuits in the Prodsports championship.
The car howled, and cornered mostly on three wheels. It was impossible not to fall in love.
Like the prettiest girl, time has done nothing to diminish the attraction.
That car of yours is perfection
Enjoy it, cherish it, love it - all in good health.

hot66

695 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Great looking car sounds like you’re already bonding with the car 8)

I’ve got a 2.4S , and where as other cars have come and gone, I’ve had the 2.4 for 18 years and for fun driving on the road nothing else gives me the same feelings.

Get on to Ddk if you want more tech info and Uk early porsche community / events etc