992 GT3

[Taffy66]

Based on a video i saw last night it seems bloody fast. Can't wait for the 992 Touring launch as that's the one i'm more interested in. Despite my best intentions on preferring the Manual Touring i'm still finding myself drawn towards a 992 Touring PDK.

[Midasman17]

Taffy66 said:

Based on a video i saw last night it seems bloody fast. Can't wait for the 992 Touring launch as that's the one i'm more interested in. Despite my best intentions on preferring the Manual Touring i'm still finding myself drawn towards a 992 Touring PDK.

Agree completely and I’m a Taff as well

[Melvynr]

peeler said:

Yeah, he looks after all my cars.

Yes , hes a decent guy.He will let me sit in yours to get the feel, you won't mind if I rev it up will you.

[Melvynr]

bigmowley said:

Hope you’re booked in he’s got a bloody enormous waiting list

Fook my tits, are you Manx as well, or are you Henry[GT3RS, GT2RS guy]

Edited by Melvynr on Saturday 17th April 18:24

[Melvynr]

Cheib said:

It will undoubtedly be a great car but we’re definitely in the land of marginal gains. What will be interesting to see is how the new suspension behaves on the road...AP says it is more compliant on road than the previous car and also provides more grip on track. Quite some achievement !

It will be if that is true as the .2 is exceptional on B roads, only thing I would be slightly concerned with is the 315 rears, would they tramline at speed on the road.If they don't ,my next set of tyres will be 315s as the wheels will take them no probs.

[bigmowley]

Melvynr said:

bigmowley said:

Hope you’re booked in he’s got a bloody enormous waiting list

Fook my tits, are you Manx as well, or are you Henry[GT3RS, GT2RS guy]

Edited by Melvynr on Saturday 17th April 18:24

St Marks for me, and no I am not Henry.
Out of interest I am just on with building a 50 car storage facility and workshop, primarily for my fleet but with space for customer cars as well, just in case you run out of space

[Melvynr]

That looks like its going to be the business, what car and colour car are you driving at the moment, may catch you on the road.Am in Ramsey.

[bigmowley]

Melvynr said:

That looks like its going to be the business, what car and colour car are you driving at the moment, may catch you on the road.Am in Ramsey.

Usually a silver Sprinter van flying machine.
White 718 Spyder or blue R8 is the usual choice of weekend wheels.
Perhaps you me and Peeler should catch up for a pint now the pubs are open again, any excuse for a jolly over the mountain.

[Melvynr]

bigmowley said:

Usually a silver Sprinter van flying machine.
White 718 Spyder or blue R8 is the usual choice of weekend wheels.
Perhaps you me and Peeler should catch up for a pint now the pubs are open again, any excuse for a jolly over the mountain.

That would be good, had a. blue R8 overtake me in my CS a couple years back, you got me thinking was it the new r8 rwd that Simon ordered for a customer.Cheers.Peeler be sulking now and on to Daz thinking am gunna sit in his seat

[bigmowley]

Melvynr said:

bigmowley said:

Usually a silver Sprinter van flying machine.
White 718 Spyder or blue R8 is the usual choice of weekend wheels.
Perhaps you me and Peeler should catch up for a pint now the pubs are open again, any excuse for a jolly over the mountain.

That would be good, had a. blue R8 overtake me in my CS a couple years back, you got me thinking was it the new r8 rwd that Simon ordered for a customer.Cheers.Peeler be sulking now and on to Daz thinking am gunna sit in his seat

That’s the one. Lovely car.

[Melvynr]

Very nice, the 1275gt looks the nuts as well

[peeler]

Melvynr said:

That would be good, had a. blue R8 overtake me in my CS a couple years back, you got me thinking was it the new r8 rwd that Simon ordered for a customer.Cheers.Peeler be sulking now and on to Daz thinking am gunna sit in his seat

the storage facility looks amazing!!

I’ve seen the R8 about it’s lovely, was it Nathan’s ? Has a exhaust system and sounds nuts ?

Also the Porsche , did you buy it new ? I think we met at Jackson’s while I was picking my GT4 up ??

[peeler]

Stolen from Rennlist

Magic Fox

words from daniel:



GERMAN:

Guten Morgen zusammen



Gestern war es soweit. Ich war am Bilster Berg.

Kam am Donnerstag Abend ins Hotel und hab noch Jörg Bergmeister im Parkhaus getroffen.

Lange Rede kurzer Sinn, irgendwann sagt er nur freu dich auf morgen, dass Auto ist der Wahnsinn, wie ich dir immer gesagt habe.

Ich dann: „besser als mein RS“

Jörg schmunzelt und sagt „bis morgen“



Ich versuche es so kompakt zusammenzufassen wie es nur geht:



Sound: keine vorschalldämpfer mehr. Krümmer, Opf, ESD. Das wars.

Sound mindestens so gut wie beim 991.2. Tom’s und mein Empfinden. Er ist sogar lauter.

Absolut geil! Also keiner muss Angst haben, dass er zu leise ist.



GT3 feeling:

Vielleicht ein Ticken weniger mechanische Geräusche im Innenraum. Motorgeräusch genauso wie vorher. Sehr gut laut im Innenraum.

Das GT3 Feeling ist aber noch da. Kann ich jeden beruhigen. Ist nicht zu „neu“ geworden der Koffer. Sitze, Lenkrad, Sound.. alles GT3.



Höhe vorne war eine Frage:

Genauso wie 991.2. tendenziell eher etwas mehr bodenfreiheit. Hab lange mit Andy P. Im Auto gehockt und über die Kiste und so Punkte gesprochen. Er würde immer Lift bestellen! Nur zur Info.



Performance:

Also es fällt mir schwer das zu beschrieben, weil es so wahrscheinlich kaum einer glauben wird. Müsst ihr mir halt vertrauen.



Lars kam letztes Jahr zur mir und sagt. Kauf nen GT3 wenn der kommt. Ich sage es dir. RS kommt nicht hinterher.



Wollte ich nicht wahrhaben bzw. konnte es nicht glauben.



Gestern ist Jörg Bergmeister im Auto ohne Sturz Einstellung (CUP2R brauch sonst round about 2,2 grad vorne) mit frischen Cup2R kalt aus der Box gefahren und eine 1.43,41 min. Gefahren. Also nur 2 Zehntel langsamer als Lars Kern im .2 GT3 RS MR mit vorgewärmten reifen, Helm etc.



Die Vorderachse ist extrem gut! Kein Vergleich zum 911.2

Breitere Spur, breitere reifen - merkt man!



Lenkung ist gut. Finde sie wird was zu weich wenn man langsam fährt. 20km/h bspw. Aber wenn man flott unterwegs ist. Gut Hart und direkt.



Das Auto ist 100% schneller und besser als mein 991.2 GT3 MR und auch als der RS MR.



Komplett Serie nur CupR drauf und ne 1:43 am BB. Hab ich nicht glauben wollen. Zum Glück war ich da.



G Kräfte über 2,2



Zusammenfassend:



Glückwunsch an alle die einen bekommen haben. Ihr habt alles richtig gemacht.

Es ist aktuell das beste Auto!

Macht euch keine Sorgen. Sound ist vielleicht sogar besser geworden.

Es ist ein GT3 durch und durch.



Meine Farbe wäre übrigens Silber. Sau geil.






GOOGLE TRANSLATE:


Good Morning all



The time had come yesterday. I was at Bilster Berg.

Came to the hotel on Thursday evening and met Jörg Bergmeister in the parking garage.

Long story short, at some point he just says look forward to tomorrow, that car is amazing, as I always told you.

I then: "better than my RS"

Jörg smiles and says "see you tomorrow"



I try to summarize it as compactly as possible:



Sound: no more front silencers. Elbow, Opf, ESD. That’s it.

Sound at least as good as the 991.2. Tom’s and my feelings. It's even louder.

Absolutely awesome! So nobody has to be afraid that it is too quiet.



GT3 feeling:

Maybe a tick less mechanical noise in the interior. Engine noise the same as before. Very loud in the interior.

The GT3 feeling is still there. I can reassure everyone. The suitcase has not become too "new". Seats, steering wheel, sound ... everything GT3.



Height in front was a question:

Just like 991.2. tends to be a little more ground clearance. I sat in the car with Andy P. for a long time and talked about the box and points. He would always order a lift! Just for info.



Performance:

So it is difficult for me to describe it because hardly anyone will believe it. Do you have to trust me?



Lars came to me last year and says. Buy a GT3 when it comes. I tell you. RS can't keep up.



I didn't want to admit it or couldn't believe it.



Yesterday Jörg Bergmeister drove cold out of the pits with fresh Cup2R and drove a 1.43.41 min. In the car without a fall setting (otherwise CUP2R needs around 2.2 degrees in front). So only two tenths slower than Lars Kern in the .2 GT3 RS MR with preheated tires, helmet, etc.



The front axle is extremely good! No comparison to 911.2

Wider track, wider tires - you can tell!



Steering is good. I think it gets too soft when you drive slowly. 20km / h, for example. But when you're on the move quickly. Good, hard and direct.



The car is 100% faster and better than my 991.2 GT3 MR and also than the RS MR.



Complete series only CupR on it and ne 1:43 on the BB. I didn't want to believe Luckily I was there.



G forces over 2.2



In summary:



Congratulations to everyone who got one. You did everything right.

It's the best car right now!

Do not worry. Sound may even have gotten better.

It's a GT3 through and through.

[Cheib]

browngt3 said:

Digga said:

There’s a certain edge missing, isn’t there? I do feel it will be a great car, but also that we’re past peak now.

Will they be able to remove the filters with synthetic fuels? Maybe for 992.2. Be good if Porsche can avoid hybridization for 911

There's no way synthetic fuels will be available for production cars by then. As I am sure you know they're going to be used in a race series shortly

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/technology-news...

That will give proof of concept in a very public way. BUT needs mass manufacturing and effective sponsorship from many involved parties for it to become a realistic proposition on a price basis for road users. Way too expensive for the man on the street to use unless massive volume produced.

Porsche have already said there's a hybrid coming for 992.2...which "will be the most powerful 911 ever"...I assume a Turbo S on steroids.

[Melvynr]

peeler said:

the storage facility looks amazing!!

I’ve seen the R8 about it’s lovely, was it Nathan’s ? Has a exhaust system and sounds nuts ?

Also the Porsche , did you buy it new ? I think we met at Jackson’s while I was picking my GT4 up ??

Hi, no I never got it new and had to pay over list for it.Had 2.3k on it and 3 owners I think.Had the perfect spec I was looking for, it was on SOR up at P Perth and after a few bits of haggling over the price I secured it.Simon and his son went up to collect for me.
Dont think it was me up at Jacksons on your pick up as I would of been all over it like a rashSeen it on the road a few times and made me feel id done right in picking the Crayon.
Mine is up at Daz on 24th May for a spruce up.
Nathan rings a bell and sure it could be him who got the RWD R8 new , that would be a great model to have.

[Melvynr]

Anyone know for certain if the 992 is being released with CupR tyres.And preferably with the flange.

Edited by Melvynr on Sunday 18th April 13:46

[bigmowley]

peeler said:

Melvynr said:

That would be good, had a. blue R8 overtake me in my CS a couple years back, you got me thinking was it the new r8 rwd that Simon ordered for a customer.Cheers.Peeler be sulking now and on to Daz thinking am gunna sit in his seat

the storage facility looks amazing!!

I’ve seen the R8 about it’s lovely, was it Nathan’s ? Has a exhaust system and sounds nuts ?

Also the Porsche , did you buy it new ? I think we met at Jackson’s while I was picking my GT4 up ??

Had both the R8 and the Spyder from new. The R8 was the first car that Jackson’s supplied on the IoM. It had to be PDI in Jersey as the workshop wasn’t finished Audi sports exhaust.
Yes we met briefly when you picked up the Crayon GT4.

[peeler]

Melvynr said:

Hi, no I never got it new and had to pay over list for it.Had 2.3k on it and 3 owners I think.Had the perfect spec I was looking for, it was on SOR up at P Perth and after a few bits of haggling over the price I secured it.Simon and his son went up to collect for me.
Dont think it was me up at Jacksons on your pick up as I would of been all over it like a rashSeen it on the road a few times and made me feel id done right in picking the Crayon.
Mine is up at Daz on 24th May for a spruce up.
Nathan rings a bell and sure it could be him who got the RWD R8 new , that would be a great model to have.

I made a mess of my last multi quote!!

Yes I’ve seen your GT3 and it looks stunning in Crayon, a brave choice but definitely paid off.

[peeler]

bigmowley said:

Had both the R8 and the Spyder from new. The R8 was the first car that Jackson’s supplied on the IoM. It had to be PDI in Jersey as the workshop wasn’t finished Audi sports exhaust.
Yes we met briefly when you picked up the Crayon GT4.

Argh yes, I’ll need to ask you again where you got your front plate. I never actually got round to fitting one to the GT4, my friend has it now

The Audi is stunning , well your Porsche is too !! Love the blue of the R8

[bigmowley]

peeler said:

bigmowley said:

Had both the R8 and the Spyder from new. The R8 was the first car that Jackson’s supplied on the IoM. It had to be PDI in Jersey as the workshop wasn’t finished Audi sports exhaust.
Yes we met briefly when you picked up the Crayon GT4.

Argh yes, I’ll need to ask you again where you got your front plate. I never actually got round to fitting one to the GT4, my friend has it now

The Audi is stunning , well your Porsche is too !! Love the blue of the R8

The front plate on the Spyder is an eBay cheapy. I bought a few with different variations on the number 7. I was trying to get closer to looking like Tom without falling foul of the law . My youngest is called Tom so it was just a bit of fun.
I need to replace it soon as it’s faded a bit. There was somebody on the GT4 thread that posted a link to a company who made the plates with a very slight curve on them which looked straight when stuck to the curved bumper. I thought that was a great idea and UK legal.
I much prefer a stick on plate on top of the PPF rather than the plinth and holes in the bumper.