992 GT3

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Cheib

23,205 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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GTSJOE said:
Cheib said:
Listening to a Motor Trend (US car channel) journalist talking on a Podcast earlier....GT3 will be firmer ride than 991.2 GT3 which is what you would expect from the new suspension set up. He also said the Touring is going to have softer suspension that the car with the Wing.
I presume the suspension will be firmer on the windy one as it has to cope with 150% more downforce vs the previous generation.
With little improvement in downforce will the Touring be similar to the 991.2Touring? Same engine, just more tech.. maybe 991.2 GT3 is peak Touring!
Certainly seems like there will be a difference in suspension set up’s. Given what has been said about the 992 Turbo S being more like a GT car I wonder how close the Turbo S and Touring will be in terms of ride.

hunter 66

3,902 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Porsche should make an interchangeable Touring/ Wing car , electronic settings ... drive around town in soft limo mode then put the wing on .. with 4 easy clips and off to track day , resettle suspension on arrival ....
Could even number them 1- 10,000 so the are better "overs"
Simply really

TDT

4,931 posts

119 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Seems like the tide is turning and everyone has stated quietly jostling for one now vs never never, rip my 991.2 from the cold dying hands.

The old switcheroo!

Journo reviews and first drives aren’t even out yet.

Gitana991

176 posts

60 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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av185 said:
Yes I know but my post was on the basis most won't be receiving a car until next Spring when the Tourings are trickling through so there should be a degree of choice especially as there may be 800 cars this time approx 400 of each. (Although judging off the much lower than expected 718 GT4 and Spydee numbers this may be wildly optimistic)

I'm not too bothered about a car this time but if one comes along next year I would go winged every time.

Hope you are keeping well btw.
Some clients were offered the choice of first batch winged or to wait for the Touring.

GTSJOE

340 posts

153 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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hunter 66 said:
Porsche should make an interchangeable Touring/ Wing car , electronic settings ... drive around town in soft limo mode then put the wing on .. with 4 easy clips and off to track day , resettle suspension on arrival ....
Could even number them 1- 10,000 so the are better "overs"
Simply really
Our friends on Rennlist seem to think that the wing is easily removable on the 992GT3. Their view is the wing is similar to the 992GT3 Cup car, easily detached, not sure you would want to go flat out through Copse without the wing but may be suitable for B roads.

https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-and-gt2rs-foru...


Mark Stevens

164 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Mad Scientist said:
Not many confirmations of lucky piston headers on here........
I’ve been told batch no.2 for me. Personally I can’t wait I really like the look of it.
Long term track car with some European trips.

First batch consisted of 3 cars of which I didn’t get a look in!

Purple Man

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201 posts

73 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Apparently first cars will get to the UK about May
Second allocation will be later this year and should be double first allocation so OPC will get 6 winged cars and probably 3 touring cars.
Allocation will be split like the GT4/spyder, they think. So two GT3's for each touring.
Next year they expect to get more cars, so I should be able to get one next year without buying the 10K watch!!
So if they get 12 cars this year you have to guess that they are getting 16 cars next year hopefully.
Flippers better be quick or it could finish like the GT4's where you can now get one under list.
I keep looking at GT4's they now look good value, but I will wait for a GT3.

av185

18,497 posts

127 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Purple Man said:
Apparently first cars will get to the UK about May
Second allocation will be later this year and should be double first allocation so OPC will get 6 winged cars and probably 3 touring cars.
Allocation will be split like the GT4/spyder, they think. So two GT3's for each touring.
Next year they expect to get more cars, so I should be able to get one next year without buying the 10K watch!!
So if they get 12 cars this year you have to guess that they are getting 16 cars next year hopefully.
Flippers better be quick or it could finish like the GT4's where you can now get one under list.
I keep looking at GT4's they now look good value, but I will wait for a GT3.
Doubtful.

So by your calculations over a standard 2 year production run for the 992 GT3 there will be an incredibly high number c40 cars per OPC i.e. 1720 cars for the UK.??!

Also the only limited number 718 GT4s slightly under list price ££ are understandably the early 2019 'high' mileage weird/poverty spec comfort cars mainly at Indies.

Purple Man

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201 posts

73 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Some dealers are bigger than other but lets say 7 winged cars this year times 40 dealers = 280 winged GT3's
2022 lets average it out at 10 winged GT3's thats 400 winged GT3
You would imagine another 5 cars in 2023 so that 200 winged GT3's
So 880 Winged GT3's
My dealer got 16 991.1 GT3RS cars. so if you times that by 40 that is 640 GT3RS cars, someone will know how many gen 1 GT3RS where delivered into the UK????? Please let me know.
Touring cars will be considered a separate car, makes sense to Porsche to do that, so I would guess at 440 touring cars.
Porsche now knows there is big demand for the touring. Like AP says, 'We,(Porsche) aim to produce one less car than the market demands.'
All just guess work, that's what makes the forum interesting.
The more cars the better in my opinion.

Cheib

23,205 posts

175 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Purple Man said:
Some dealers are bigger than other but lets say 7 winged cars this year times 40 dealers = 280 winged GT3's
2022 lets average it out at 10 winged GT3's thats 400 winged GT3
You would imagine another 5 cars in 2023 so that 200 winged GT3's
So 880 Winged GT3's
My dealer got 16 991.1 GT3RS cars. so if you times that by 40 that is 640 GT3RS cars, someone will know how many gen 1 GT3RS where delivered into the UK????? Please let me know.
Touring cars will be considered a separate car, makes sense to Porsche to do that, so I would guess at 440 touring cars.
Porsche now knows there is big demand for the touring. Like AP says, 'We,(Porsche) aim to produce one less car than the market demands.'
All just guess work, that's what makes the forum interesting.
The more cars the better in my opinion.
I think your dealer is way off to be honest PM.

According to how many left there were 310 991.1 GT3 RS...back then I think 36 OPC so an average of 8.

We got something like 650 991.2 GT3’s...you are suggesting the volume trebles ? Have a look at how many 911’s Porsche sell in the UK...you’re suggesting GT3 becomes the volume model.

throt

3,048 posts

170 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Cheib said:
Purple Man said:
Some dealers are bigger than other but lets say 7 winged cars this year times 40 dealers = 280 winged GT3's
2022 lets average it out at 10 winged GT3's thats 400 winged GT3
You would imagine another 5 cars in 2023 so that 200 winged GT3's
So 880 Winged GT3's
My dealer got 16 991.1 GT3RS cars. so if you times that by 40 that is 640 GT3RS cars, someone will know how many gen 1 GT3RS where delivered into the UK????? Please let me know.
Touring cars will be considered a separate car, makes sense to Porsche to do that, so I would guess at 440 touring cars.
Porsche now knows there is big demand for the touring. Like AP says, 'We,(Porsche) aim to produce one less car than the market demands.'
All just guess work, that's what makes the forum interesting.
The more cars the better in my opinion.
I think your dealer is way off to be honest PM.

According to how many left there were 310 991.1 GT3 RS...back then I think 36 OPC so an average of 8.

We got something like 650 991.2 GT3’s...you are suggesting the volume trebles ? Have a look at how many 911’s Porsche sell in the UK...you’re suggesting GT3 becomes the volume model.
16 x 991.1GT3RS, yep, I thought too many,



Scott Parker

798 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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How is everyone getting on securing a car. My OPC had 2 cars for May build and thus 2021 cars, 1 was the PTS order which we knew about in December and the other was non PTS. They are expecting another 5/6 allocations for July onwards build thus 2022 cars with the 5k price increase

Purple Man

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201 posts

73 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Cheib said:
I think your dealer is way off to be honest PM.

According to how many left there were 310 991.1 GT3 RS...back then I think 36 OPC so an average of 8.

We got something like 650 991.2 GT3’s...you are suggesting the volume trebles ? Have a look at how many 911’s Porsche sell in the UK...you’re suggesting GT3 becomes the volume model.
I am not suggesting volume trebles, if there were 650 .2 GT3's as you say above, I am suggesting there will be 800 to 850 is that not an expected increase in turnover for a very popular model?

And another poster has just said his dealer has two car in first run then 5/6 cars later in the year, so that ties in with what I said.
8x40 dealers is 320 cars this year.

Koln-RS

3,856 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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My understanding is that, whatever an OPC is given as an initial allocation, this is normally a conservative figure.

Because, with the possible exception of ultra-rare/‘limited no.’ models, Porsche normally offer extra allocations through the course of the year, as production, demand and territorial sales become more evident.

TDT

4,931 posts

119 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Enough of this allocation waffle... some engineering please....



The New Porsche 911 GT3's Engine Is A Masterpiece

https://youtu.be/8xByM10KM2k

Melvynr

1,404 posts

51 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Can someone clarify which engine is in the new 992, as far as I am aware its the .2 GT3 engine that went into the Speedster and bumped up to 510hp.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Melvynr said:
Can someone clarify which engine is in the new 992, as far as I am aware its the .2 GT3 engine that went into the Speedster and bumped up to 510hp.
It is the exact same engine along with ITBs and GPFs as fitted to the Speedster with the same 510PS. The RS WP has also got the same engine albeit with better breathing/tuning to release another 10PS or so.

av185

18,497 posts

127 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Yep thats the one.

Same engine as 991.2 GT3 but with itbs and gpfs.

Melvynr

1,404 posts

51 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Taffy66 said:
It is the exact same engine along with ITBs and GPFs as fitted to the Speedster with the same 510PS. The RS WP has also got the same engine albeit with better breathing/tuning to release another 10PS or so.
Cheers and thanks.

Melvynr

1,404 posts

51 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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av185 said:
Yep thats the one.

Same engine as 991.2 GT3 but with itbs and gpfs.
Cheers and thanks.The plan was afoot then for the 992.