Manual GT3 - rev range advice

Manual GT3 - rev range advice

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whj

192 posts

208 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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CloudStuff said:
whj said:
OP, I bought a 991.2 GT3 just before Christmas and it also had 4 ignitions (after 125 hours) in rev range 3. I bought it from an independent and whilst they assured me it was nothing to be concerned with, I sent the report to my local OPC and asked them if there was anything in the report that would preclude them from giving me a warranty and they said that in isolation the report didn't pose a problem in their view.

So after purchase I phoned to book the car in for the 111 point check and OPC service said, no need and just issued a warranty over the phone without the inspection or associated cost.

Ive done a paltry 700 miles so far, but now the weather has turned it will get regular exercise. Ive also got my first track day in it next month at Anglesey bounce
Congratulations on the car whj - I'm with you on the track day want.

Do you recall what the maximum engine speed reached on your report was?
No sorry I don't remember that bit, just remembered that 4 overrevs because I thought it odd.

CloudStuff

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3,676 posts

103 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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whj said:
No sorry I don't remember that bit, just remembered that 4 overrevs because I thought it odd.
No worries, spoke to two specialists and then the original owner today. The car has been really well looked after woohoo

As an aside, the specialists told me that a) ranges 1 to 3 are fine, b) 4 in range 3 is a false positive anyway, and the engine speed reached didn't trouble them.

It's been fascinating to delve into this as I wean myself off PDK, over the the Spanish side.


Edited by CloudStuff on Friday 26th March 19:04

BanzaiMan

157 posts

146 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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CloudStuff

Original Poster:

3,676 posts

103 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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BanzaiMan said:
Haha! Great minds think alike :-)

CloudStuff

Original Poster:

3,676 posts

103 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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Collected it today.

What a fantastic machine!



It’s now with the detailer to have the wheels taken back to silver.

The decals look much better in the flesh, I’ll look to remove them after the summer though, as I don’t want to wreck the ppf.

God knows why I persisted with pdk for so long!

TDT

4,910 posts

118 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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Congrats mate...

Will look mega when the changes are completed. In the meanwhile - enjoy that masterpiece of an engine.

whj

192 posts

208 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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Congratulations on the purchase, looks great. How do you plan on using it, daily, sparingly or flat out track days and European tours ?

CloudStuff

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3,676 posts

103 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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whj said:
Congratulations on the purchase, looks great. How do you plan on using it, daily, sparingly or flat out track days and European tours ?
Cheers - good question. I have had two 911 GTS in succession and have 'dailyed' them - enjoyed every single mile.

With the GT3, it's a weekend, trackday / tour and fun car.

I really think (I would say this though), that these cars are a bit of a high-watermark, 'that' engine, manual, pre-GPF (I stand to be corrected, but I think this MY is pre-muzzle).

I'll be driving my daughter's Dacia Sandero during the week - this helps keep the GT3 feeling 'special' too.

CloudStuff

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3,676 posts

103 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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TDT said:
Congrats mate...

Will look mega when the changes are completed. In the meanwhile - enjoy that masterpiece of an engine.
Oh yes, I didn't even rev it out today. I'm saving that experience!

whj

192 posts

208 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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CloudStuff said:
Cheers - good question. I have had two 911 GTS in succession and have 'dailyed' them - enjoyed every single mile.

With the GT3, it's a weekend, trackday / tour and fun car.

I really think (I would say this though), that these cars are a bit of a high-watermark, 'that' engine, manual, pre-GPF (I stand to be corrected, but I think this MY is pre-muzzle).

I'll be driving my daughter's Dacia Sandero during the week - this helps keep the GT3 feeling 'special' too.
The Sandero is not to be underestimated, fingers crossed it doesn't spoil your enjoyment of the GT3

CloudStuff

Original Poster:

3,676 posts

103 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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whj said:
CloudStuff said:
Cheers - good question. I have had two 911 GTS in succession and have 'dailyed' them - enjoyed every single mile.

With the GT3, it's a weekend, trackday / tour and fun car.

I really think (I would say this though), that these cars are a bit of a high-watermark, 'that' engine, manual, pre-GPF (I stand to be corrected, but I think this MY is pre-muzzle).

I'll be driving my daughter's Dacia Sandero during the week - this helps keep the GT3 feeling 'special' too.
The Sandero is not to be underestimated, fingers crossed it doesn't spoil your enjoyment of the GT3
This is true, they share the same power-train, of course, and are both shorn with Cup 2s.

CloudStuff

Original Poster:

3,676 posts

103 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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CloudStuff said:
Collected it today.

What a fantastic machine!



It’s now with the detailer to have the wheels taken back to silver.

The decals look much better in the flesh, I’ll look to remove them after the summer though, as I don’t want to wreck the ppf.

God knows why I persisted with pdk for so long!
Couldn't stand it any longer - canned the original plan to have the wheels repainted, held off for a few weeks but ultimately took it to 9E to be sorted.

Ken has had the bodywork and wheels returned to original (plus fixed a dent and checked out a few (non-)issues for me).

Hopefully collecting tomorrow or Monday.

Very, very happy with it.....


braddo

10,399 posts

187 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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A big improvement to my eyes. thumbup


Royal Jelly

3,674 posts

197 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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I like red with black wheels as a general theme, but in the flesh, those GT3 wheels look perfect in silver...

CloudStuff

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3,676 posts

103 months

Saturday 21st August 2021
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Just to close down the story on this (nothing new here for the long-term aficionados, but hopefully helpful for somebody in a similar position).

I bought my manual GT3 in March. I have just sold it. Every single mile was a joy - added 5000 miles, turned a small profit. Madness.

Anyway, I was very wary at first about the ECU data before buying the car.

The car had ignitions in ranges 1 and 2 - no issue. But it also had 4 ignitions in range 3. The consensus here, and also having consulted a specialist before purchase was that 4 ignitions were likely to be a false positive. As the OPC were to put a warranty on it, it would be a very low risk purchase.

So I went ahead and that was the right decision.

I sold it to another OPC (different group). In the interim, I had a major service performed at yet another OPC.

The selling OPC ran a fresh 111 just before I purchased and were clearly not worried about the 4 ignitions. The servicing OPC, also gave the ECU data a clean bill of health.

The buying OPC were a little more cautious. A number of three-way calls with me, the buyer and various service managers later and the fact that the 4 ignitions had remained constant (i.e., not added to) and had been followed by a strip down and compression test was enough to get the green light and complete the sale.

Because, as we know, OPCs are operated by different franchise groups, service records are not always updated in the central system which Porsche GB operate. And where they are updated, the descriptions are sometimes sloppy and need to be deciphered.

TL:DR - Experienced GT owners can ignore. If, like me, you are new to manual GT products and concerned about low-level ignitions in range 3, do some legwork and trace back to determine when they happened and if a strip down and compression test was passed afterwards.

Hopefully this will be of use, and could prevent somebody missing out on a beauty, or being landed with a 'problem' car.