GT3 allocation (992)
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Most PHers are very happy with their 991.2 GT3s both Tourings and winged cars having rejected build slots including myself seeing the 991.2 essentially as the sweetspot especially as the new car has the same engine but with gpfs muted soundtrack is slower heavier and alot more expensive.
But we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
But we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
av185 said:
Most PHers are very happy with their 991.2 GT3s both Tourings and winged cars having rejected build slots including myself seeing the 991.2 essentially as the sweetspot especially as the new car has the same engine but with gpfs muted soundtrack is slower heavier and alot more expensive.
But we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
Slower, heavier... Just wait think you will change your tune by end of play next week! ....watch this Space But we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
av185 said:
Most PHers are very happy with their 991.2 GT3s both Tourings and winged cars having rejected build slots including myself seeing the 991.2 essentially as the sweetspot especially as the new car has the same engine but with gpfs muted soundtrack is slower heavier and alot more expensive.
But we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
yeah I agree, I think the turbo S is the most attractive car on the 992 platformBut we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
WCZ said:
av185 said:
Most PHers are very happy with their 991.2 GT3s both Tourings and winged cars having rejected build slots including myself seeing the 991.2 essentially as the sweetspot especially as the new car has the same engine but with gpfs muted soundtrack is slower heavier and alot more expensive.
But we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
yeah I agree, I think the turbo S is the most attractive car on the 992 platformBut we all await the crucial roadtests by quality journos to give some idea on improvements if any.
As for size, I was carsighting with my son in a location where sports and super cars are in abundance. I thought the 992 still looked like a compact car against the current peer group. Can’t wait to see a GT3 in the flesh now!
SFO said:
There is no import duty applicable to EU imports.
You may have some hassle with VAT, but you shouldn't have to pay that twice.
funnily enough I'm just about to import a vehicle from the USA and what I can say with some certainty is that you're not correct according to the HMRC 5% import duty is payable on all vehicles that come into the country no matter where in the world they come...and that they told me includes the EU since we left......you're correct about the VAT you shouldn't have to pay VAT in the country of origin as long as the paperwork has it marked for export when it lands in the UK you have 14 days to register the car and pay the VAT....you'll need the correct forms from HMRC such as NOVA etc. to do this.....be aware though as the Germans have a nasty habit of charging you the VAT before they release the car you can claim this back once you have paid the UK VAT and sent the Germans the appropriate proof so be prepared to pay another 20% VAT on top I say this because the HMRC told me they're having problems with this Issue so you may like to check with HMRC before hand to clarify....I have experience of this having had to pay 2 lots of VAT and claiming back from the Germans......don't forget you will have to pay the 5% import duty and the 20% VAT on the total....and to finish off I'm sure the HMRC will be adding the first years VED of £2000 if your buying a GT3....of course if your importing a vehicle over 40 years old there is no VAT to payYou may have some hassle with VAT, but you shouldn't have to pay that twice.
K3 MG said:
SFO said:
There is no import duty applicable to EU imports.
You may have some hassle with VAT, but you shouldn't have to pay that twice.
funnily enough I'm just about to import a vehicle from the USA and what I can say with some certainty is that you're not correct according to the HMRC 5% import duty is payable on all vehicles that come into the country no matter where in the world they come...and that they told me includes the EU since we left You may have some hassle with VAT, but you shouldn't have to pay that twice.
Idly looked at cars again today and realized a decent 991 Touring is still c 160k euros, so about 20k less than my (Admittedly light, but I don’t need anything else) GT3 spec would be. Got to say in that case I would probably just order the new car instead of buying the - to my eyes - prettier old car. Ultimately I don’t see what it looks like when I am driving it ....
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The market right now for the current gen is nowhere near the reality. All these ads with the high prices seem to be an effort to keep the prices high. Try to part exchange or sell directly a 991.2 gt3, it will be 105k
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
ocZio said:
The market right now for the current gen is nowhere near the reality. All these ads with the high prices seem to be an effort to keep the prices high. Try to part exchange or sell directly a 991.2 gt3, it will be 105k
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
I have one and couldn’t care less, but, I think 105k part ex is a bit low, buddyNot sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
throt said:
ocZio said:
The market right now for the current gen is nowhere near the reality. All these ads with the high prices seem to be an effort to keep the prices high. Try to part exchange or sell directly a 991.2 gt3, it will be 105k
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
I have one and couldn’t care less, but, I think 105k part ex is a bit low, buddyNot sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
ocZio said:
The market right now for the current gen is nowhere near the reality. All these ads with the high prices seem to be an effort to keep the prices high. Try to part exchange or sell directly a 991.2 gt3, it will be 105k
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
With respect, are the above prices for the UK market?Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
Only I managed to find a nice 7k Miles 991.2 GT3 CS last week for a mate from an OPC, he paid 135k, 6 people were after the car. As for 992 Turbo S prices, my car is a July 20 its done 3.7k list was 163,750. My new one arrives next month. Part ex price is 155k dealer has a people waiting for the car.
ocZio said:
The market right now for the current gen is nowhere near the reality. All these ads with the high prices seem to be an effort to keep the prices high. Try to part exchange or sell directly a 991.2 gt3, it will be 105k
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
APOLO1 said:
With respect, are the above prices for the UK market?
Only I managed to find a nice 7k Miles 991.2 GT3 CS last week for a mate from an OPC, he paid 135k, 6 people were after the car. As for 992 Turbo S prices, my car is a July 20 its done 3.7k list was 163,750. My new one arrives next month. Part ex price is 155k dealer has a people waiting for the car.
Correct D.Only I managed to find a nice 7k Miles 991.2 GT3 CS last week for a mate from an OPC, he paid 135k, 6 people were after the car. As for 992 Turbo S prices, my car is a July 20 its done 3.7k list was 163,750. My new one arrives next month. Part ex price is 155k dealer has a people waiting for the car.
In the last 2 weeks I have had 4 OPCs after my 1 owner 2018 manual CS 5 k miler and the lowest bid was £143k highest £147k trade. Reckon these will be back up to £160k in a couple of months due to major limited supply 3 cars only in OPC network last week.
av185 said:
Correct D.
In the last 2 weeks I have had 4 OPCs after my 1 owner 2018 manual CS 5 k miler and the lowest bid was £143k highest £147k trade. Reckon these will be back up to £160k in a couple of months due to major limited supply 3 cars only in OPC network last week.
Can you clarify that, are you saying porsche dealer has offered you 147k for your 991.2 GT3? I highly doubt this for 2 main reasons, Porsche dealers have MINIMUM 10k margins (not profit, margins) to play with once they buy a car, a decent 991.1 GT3RS can be found for that price or cheaper.In the last 2 weeks I have had 4 OPCs after my 1 owner 2018 manual CS 5 k miler and the lowest bid was £143k highest £147k trade. Reckon these will be back up to £160k in a couple of months due to major limited supply 3 cars only in OPC network last week.
Can you tell me which dealer has offered you that amount, I might be entirely wrong here but any factual evidence will help. My evidence is based on valuations online and calling dealers. What is yours?
av185 said:
APOLO1 said:
With respect, are the above prices for the UK market?
Only I managed to find a nice 7k Miles 991.2 GT3 CS last week for a mate from an OPC, he paid 135k, 6 people were after the car. As for 992 Turbo S prices, my car is a July 20 its done 3.7k list was 163,750. My new one arrives next month. Part ex price is 155k dealer has a people waiting for the car.
Correct D.Only I managed to find a nice 7k Miles 991.2 GT3 CS last week for a mate from an OPC, he paid 135k, 6 people were after the car. As for 992 Turbo S prices, my car is a July 20 its done 3.7k list was 163,750. My new one arrives next month. Part ex price is 155k dealer has a people waiting for the car.
In the last 2 weeks I have had 4 OPCs after my 1 owner 2018 manual CS 5 k miler and the lowest bid was £143k highest £147k trade. Reckon these will be back up to £160k in a couple of months due to major limited supply 3 cars only in OPC network last week.
ocZio said:
av185 said:
Correct D.
In the last 2 weeks I have had 4 OPCs after my 1 owner 2018 manual CS 5 k miler and the lowest bid was £143k highest £147k trade. Reckon these will be back up to £160k in a couple of months due to major limited supply 3 cars only in OPC network last week.
Can you clarify that, are you saying porsche dealer has offered you 147k for your 991.2 GT3? I highly doubt this for 2 main reasons, Porsche dealers have MINIMUM 10k margins (not profit, margins) to play with once they buy a car, a decent 991.1 GT3RS can be found for that price or cheaper.In the last 2 weeks I have had 4 OPCs after my 1 owner 2018 manual CS 5 k miler and the lowest bid was £143k highest £147k trade. Reckon these will be back up to £160k in a couple of months due to major limited supply 3 cars only in OPC network last week.
Can you tell me which dealer has offered you that amount, I might be entirely wrong here but any factual evidence will help. My evidence is based on valuations online and calling dealers. What is yours?
Given the cheapest GT3 OPCs start at £144k and only 3 left incl 1 manual which will sell soon thats £39k profit.
Do try and understand the market. The mere fact you say all OPCs have a £10k margin shows you don't. Mine charge between £3k and £4k btw irrespective of car price.
OPCs are desperate for stock and as Apollo rightly says unsurprisingly they have numerous buyers lined up for cars. Easy sells. Every OPC knows who owns which cars and frequent calls re selling are nothing new.
Nope can't reveal which OPCs I deal with but most are in the same boat just have a chat with any OPC buyer of Porsche GTs who will confirm.
The much older and PDK only 991.1 GT3 RS is broadly irrelevant to 991.2 prices btw.
Edited by av185 on Saturday 17th April 19:02
av185 said:
Your post lost all credibility when you said £105k for a trade bid on a 991.2 GT3 and £125 k for a 992 TTS. These are at leat £25k behind what OPCs were offering for decent cars last December lol.
We are not in December.av185 said:
Given the cheapest GT3 OPCs start at £144k and only 3 left incl 1 manual which will sell soon thats £39k profit.
What are you trying to prove here? So if a Porsche dealer is making a profit it means surely their trade/part ex price needs to be high? av185 said:
Do try and understand the market. The mere fact you say all OPCs have a £10k margin shows you don't. Mine charge between £3k and £4k btw irrespective of car price.
Do try and understand the definition of margin and profit. av185 said:
OPCs are desperate for stock and as Apollo rightly says unsurprisingly they have numerous buyers lined up for cars. Easy sells. Every OPC knows who owns which cars and frequent calls re selling are nothing new.
Still waiting for your OPC name.av185 said:
Nope can't reveal which OPCs I deal with but most are in the same boat just have a chat with any OPC buyer of Porsche GTs who will confirm.
Still waiting for your OPC name.Edited by av185 on Saturday 17th April 19:02
ocZio said:
The market right now for the current gen is nowhere near the reality. All these ads with the high prices seem to be an effort to keep the prices high. Try to part exchange or sell directly a 991.2 gt3, it will be 105k
Not sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
I was offered full list price back for my 4K mile 992 Turbo S from supplying OPC last weekNot sure what these people are trying to achieve but the end is near.
992 Turbo S is also in the same boat, part exchange will hover around 125k.
Anyway, I am still open for the next year :-)
Edited by 5050 on Saturday 17th April 19:47
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