Boxster Spyder
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kilarney said:
Your better mileage is probably down to the tyres 1-2 mpg. Did you run the same fuel as the GT4 because thats the other big contributor if your using Vpower for example - no ethanol so more mpg.
The spyder really is that good imo as you have commented. Trouble is where to go next.
My GT4 was on Dunlops Maxx Race and my new Spyder is on Pirelli P Zero N1s..Same fuel for both which is even more perplexing..However my Spyder is now on 4500 miles and i sold my GT4 with 3700 miles, so a large part of the disparity could be down to the GT4's engine still going through the running in process..The spyder really is that good imo as you have commented. Trouble is where to go next.
Were P Zero N1s original spec as as thought they were supplied new on N0s..I'd love to shod it with Michelins Cup 2s as it already feels as good as the GT4 in pure feel and handling terms..
I just love picking up new cars when they surpass my expectations..
kilarney said:
Yes N1 are the OEM fitment. I find them fine until the ambient temp goes down then they are not so good.
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-) .Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Tom 911V said:
jimmy p said:
chrisABP said:
Deposit taken today!
So £59,995 wasn’t too big an ask after all....
Excellent result for all us 987 spyder owners!!So £59,995 wasn’t too big an ask after all....
Cheers
Tom 911V
Now stop teasing me or I’ll have to try to explain to my wife how my Cayman R has miraculously changed colour....
Porsche911R said:
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-) .
Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Mine is a March 16 build so possibly N1s .I actually prefer it to the GT4 in terms of looks and being much rarer..On the way home yesterday i stopped for a quick coffee and when i walked back to the car park i saw some dumb kid sitting on the bonnet having his photo taken..Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Interesting point on the 918 buckets i found out yesterday, while watching my 11 year old daughter raising the passenger seat..The seat when raised also tilts forward causing the backrest to become even more upright..I'm 5' 11'' and have the 918 bucket seat at its very lowest point and by default the backrest more inclined..Maybe for a shorter person with the seat raised it makes it too upright but i'm fine with it..
I found the GT4 had too much rear grip for fun driving and it would understeer as a consequence..I'm hoping the Spyder's rear 265 will make it a more neutral handling car..It also accounts for some of the upside in the fuel economy stakes..
The GT4 would be more playful if it had 275 on the rear, as the grip is way better than the power, the engine and gearing can provide..
Porsche911R said:
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-) .
Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Morning.Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Sounds to me like you’re slowly bonding with the 981 Spyder. I know you said you were planning to sell at some point, but if you don’t and change the tyres I’d be interested to hear what you think.
Agree on PSE - I never turn mine on - sounds sweet enough without it.
Either way - I’m glad you quite like it and don’t think it’s completly s**t
Enjoy
Taffy66 said:
Porsche911R said:
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-) .
Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Mine is a March 16 build so possibly N1s .I actually prefer it to the GT4 in terms of looks and being much rarer..On the way home yesterday i stopped for a quick coffee and when i walked back to the car park i saw some dumb kid sitting on the bonnet having his photo taken..Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot ! again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy. But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
Happy days.
Interesting point on the 918 buckets i found out yesterday, while watching my 11 year old daughter raising the passenger seat..The seat when raised also tilts forward causing the backrest to become even more upright..I'm 5' 11'' and have the 918 bucket seat at its very lowest point and by default the backrest more inclined..Maybe for a shorter person with the seat raised it makes it too upright but i'm fine with it..
I found the GT4 had too much rear grip for fun driving and it would understeer as a consequence..I'm hoping the Spyder's rear 265 will make it a more neutral handling car..It also accounts for some of the upside in the fuel economy stakes..
The GT4 would be more playful if it had 275 on the rear, as the grip is way better than the power, the engine and gearing can provide..
Porsche911R said:
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-)
Surely Michelin PS4S tyres would be a great choice for the road if they come N rated?Porsche911R said:
Mpg is better for sure, gear change is spot on, grip way down on my GT4,
The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot !
The boot/roof situation isn’t ideal, but I prefer this setup to the 987 as it all seems to seal/less noise etc and less parts. The only other advantage in my mind for the 987 is being able to remove the rear piece.The body is good but you can tell over the coupe, it gets the most looks though and no one knows what they are, been using mine every day the last week, ride is worst then the magic the GT4 gives, but the ride is great still ie feels sporty, roof is daft, cannot open the boot !
Porsche911R said:
again annoying, gearing is still stupid. Exhaust pse on is too noisy.
I love the PSE personally - if, for a moment, you ignore the pops and bangs which I know you hate, the tone is very old school Motorsport somehow. I don’t think it’s too loud, personally, and it is not droney but nice and raspy which is rare these days with so many restrictive cats bunging up the sound coming out of the exhausts of sports cars.I wholeheartedly agree on the gearing. It is only really a problem because of speed limits, however. The gearing makes it very easy to drive, but really you could leave it in 3rd much of the time if lazy!
Porsche911R said:
But it's a fun car, great looking and rare so gives you a feel good factor, brakes are awesome, steering not quite GT4 good but way better then any other 981 Boxster. Off for a few days in the cotswolds in it now :-)
It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
Some great roads around there. I was there last week.It’s stunning to look at and cars which make you turn and look back is always good.
The steering is actually quite good, but it is the on centre feel that gives the game away a little. Once loaded up in a corner it feels good, though.
Porsche911R said:
I think new tyres would transform it, and a slight geo tweak, I still dislike the 918 style seats !
On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
I have the normal buckets so wouldn’t know about the 918. I do find the heated seats handy, but appreciate some hard core types would rather the more exclusive 918 ones...On the plus side my gf can drive it, seat raised, and I have not told her it’s reinsured with her name also, so I am sure she will like having a drive this weekend. And I can use that as an excuse to have a few glasses of bubbles.
It is a great car, though I couldn’t quite bring myself to sell the Ferrari 360 despite having the Spyder, as a few imperfections actually make a car quite exciting (and short gearing and high revving engine).
I’m curious about the grip comment on the Spyder. Are you really reaching the limit on the road in the UK? The only time I’ve managed to have a few little slides in the car (and they felt very controlled - the car is simply beautifully balanced) is on hairpins on alpine roads in france/Italy.
Unless you are sliding out of T-junctions, I’m curious as to how you can find the limit without losing your license on UK roads!
Porsche911R said:
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-) .
N1 is on a 16 car. Mine is March 16 and N1 from new. You bet, I deal in facts N1 is approved for a 981 Spyder.kilarney said:
N1 is on a 16 car. Mine is March 16 and N1 from new. You bet, I deal in facts N1 is approved for a 981 Spyder.
Any N spec is approved from any model to any model. Does not mean it was tested on said car and was designed for that car.
PS4s is N spec approved but again not tested on a 981 Spyder or any 981 car.
Porsche911R said:
I think you will find N0 was oem fitment unless it was a late car, no N1 tyres in 2015, they were launched on the 718. So again I bet A N1 has never been tested approved for a 981 Spyder :-) .
May 2016 Spyder running on factory fitted N1 tyres 
Car 1st service on Saturday out yesterday and will be again today whilst we have record temps too 
kilarney said:
Your prattling again . The car was supplied new by Porsche with N1 tyres and Porsche dont fit anything they dont approve.
I don’t think people understand how N spec works.Let’s take the PS4s for the 718 , it’s now N spec tyre approved for the 718, not a 981, but yes it’s approved by your OPC to fit another model tyre to your car, hence the joke of it all.
You can fit a front tyre so called designed to calm the CGT down and be usable to the rear of a Cayman and it will pass checks, it was never made for a Cayman and was never tested on a Cayman.
N spec is the biggest joke at garages imo. Guess what is oem fitment to a Golf CS the N spec cup 2 lol. Now VW are involved they put N spec tyres on hot Golfs lol.
So the later 981 Spyders got the N1 P zero tyres, whoopee it’s still a s
t tyre vs the new N spec PS4S which you can now buy for a 718. (Yes they will pass checks on a 981, but it's not been tested on that car I bet) You even have PS4s tyres fitted to cars which are really just the PS4 ! Or the other way round, I forget what crap they have done regarding that.
All this tyre branding is a mess, and any new N spec tyres is only type approved for the new models they are tested on. No past models or cross car models !
Only thing which one can take from it is any car tested on the ring does not use the cheaper branded tyres, they always run the best tyres which is always Michelin. I wonder why ?
jimmy p said:
Just posted this on pcgb spyder thread,
Interesting today (as far as I can see)
No manual 987 spyder at any opc.
No manual 987 spyder on pistonheads or autotrader actually for sale with bucket seats and spyder alloys.
Is this a first??
Fixed that for you ;-)Interesting today (as far as I can see)
No manual 987 spyder at any opc.
No manual 987 spyder on pistonheads or autotrader actually for sale with bucket seats and spyder alloys.
Is this a first??
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Edited by GeeForce on Monday 7th May 15:31
GeeForce said:
jimmy p said:
Just posted this on pcgb spyder thread,
Interesting today (as far as I can see)
No manual 987 spyder at any opc.
No manual 987 spyder on pistonheads or autotrader actually for sale with bucket seats and spyder alloys.
Is this a first??
Fixed that for you ;-)Interesting today (as far as I can see)
No manual 987 spyder at any opc.
No manual 987 spyder on pistonheads or autotrader actually for sale with bucket seats and spyder alloys.
Is this a first??
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Edited by GeeForce on Monday 7th May 15:31
Looks a lovely car, hope you get full asking!!
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